I-129F Criminal History Questions

[Crazy Cat 41,834]

4 hours ago, RickFlair said:

Insane that we have to list arrests that are guaranteed to not lead to denial.  Especially from 15 to 20 years ago.  But I guess we should expect that kind of waste from a government entity.

Come on.  You KNOW what you are supposed to do.  Just do it.  No one here will tell you to lie to immigration.

 

2 hours ago, RickFlair said:

These arrest questions.... they are for the petitioner or the beneficiary?  I have a Filipino telling me that those arrest questions are for the beneficiary and not for the United States citizen.

Part 3 is about YOU, the petitioner.

[Crazy Cat 41,834]

38 minutes ago, RickFlair said:

Possession of controlled substance and unpaid speeding tickets are not.

LOL.......Misrepresentation will get you a denial.  Your choice....and your consequences.

[SalishSea 17,819]

50 minutes ago, RickFlair said:

Thank you for that.  However, the issue is that his arrest was for battery, which of course is something to be concerned about.  Possession of controlled substance and unpaid speeding tickets are not.  Also, I very seriously doubt he received a letter from the FBI, as I did, that "the fingerprint records have been destroyed in compliance with the state's recommendation, and you may legally deny the arrest occurred."  The letter from FBI literally said I can deny the arrest occurred.  Also, if he were to do a FBI fingerprint check, his expunged record will very likely show.  My FBI fingerprint checks reveal no records.  Sealing and expungement are terms that people throw around and think they understand, but the reality is that every state has their own definition of what sealing and expunging means and they can vary dramatically.  Anyways, I will reveal my arrests and provide whatever proof of "no record" I can find.  There is a small chance that DHS has some kind of super database with all arrest records in history.  I doubt it, but it is possible.  So I will just go ahead and list everything. 

Nope.   The issue is that the arrest was not disclosed on the petition, as is required.

[RickFlair 7]

15 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

LOL.......Misrepresentation will get you a denial.  Your choice....and your consequences.

misrepresentation of what

[Crazy Cat 41,834]

2 minutes ago, RickFlair said:

misrepresentation of what

I'm not playing your game.  

Edited August 7, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[RickFlair 7]

22 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Come on.  You KNOW what you are supposed to do.  Just do it.  No one here will tell you to lie to immigration.

 

Part 3 is about YOU, the petitioner.

I'm going to list it.  I just hope I don't regret it.  Will not be surprised to see a denial or RFE with some kind of statement saying that the documents I supplied are not considered "certified".  Or some other kind of government technicality.

[RickFlair 7]

1 minute ago, Crazy Cat said:

Ask @John & Rose

Not sure what I would need to ask.  My charges were possession of controlled substance and unpaid traffic tickets that went to warrant.  Not possible to represent any clearer than that.

[Crazy Cat 41,834]

4 minutes ago, RickFlair said:

'm going to list it.

I think that is wise decision.  Good luck on your journey.  I mean that.

I am an old man, but I have learned a truth about immigration: US immigration demands a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and money.  A failure in any of those can spell additional agony. 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[powerpuff 6,697]

11 minutes ago, RickFlair said:

Not sure what I would need to ask.  My charges were possession of controlled substance and unpaid traffic tickets that went to warrant.  Not possible to represent any clearer than that.

The issue was not the charges. The issue was misrepresentation by omission. That was the reason for the denial - failure to disclose, not that it was battery or any other charge.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

1 hour ago, powerpuff said:

The issue was not the charges. The issue was misrepresentation by omission. That was the reason for the denial - failure to disclose, not that it was battery or any other charge.

So very well summarized!

[Redheadguy03 505]

It should be noted that uscis sometimes checks this website. So they could very well figure out who you are. Don't lie on immigration forms! Even if you get away with it somehow, years down the road it could somehow pop up at a different appointment. Which could unravel everything, just be honest. 

[SalishSea 17,819]

1 hour ago, Redheadguy03 said:

It should be noted that uscis sometimes checks this website. So they could very well figure out who you are. Don't lie on immigration forms! Even if you get away with it somehow, years down the road it could somehow pop up at a different appointment. Which could unravel everything, just be honest. 

Also:  it is never worth lying at any point during the US immigration process.   The stakes are too high for that.

[MarJhi 959]

31 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Also:  it is never worth lying at any point during the US immigration process.   The stakes are too high for that.

Agreed, and if he lies, will he be asking his fiance to lie on her end as well? 

[LarryHickman 181]

12 hours ago, RickFlair said:

It definitely feels like they are just trying to get people to incriminate themselves.  I mean, if they can see all arrests, why are they asking us to list them?  Also, why are they interested in such petty, frivolous and meaningless arrests?  They won't deny someone for a simple possession charge, so why make us go through months of extra delays just so we can maybe get access to certified court documents to provide to them?

Well I’m guessing the God like vision the FBI is made out to be here and if they don’t care who should tone vs the USCIS is that the FBI was for and 8-5 job vs USCIS dealing with forced human trafficking or forced sex slave day in and day out so they want to know……you know to protect somebody’s life no biggie…..OP just tell the truth do yourself a favor if this is important to you, you screwed up like the rest of us at one point regardless if gone or not and yeah it’s still on your record just not accessible to some checks……Been through many FBI, CIA checks the Feds keep the records so why wouldn’t FEDs at DHS USCIS have access to them also? They do if you give them reason to suspect you. 
 

It doesn’t matter if you believe they are gone or not…the question was ask, not answering is the same as lying if you withhold info, this concept isn’t hard. 

Edited August 8, 2022 by LarryHickman

[Redro 4,611]

10 hours ago, RickFlair said:

I can tell you haven't been paying attention.  The arrests are meaningless.  The only issue is understanding government paperwork.  I believe your problem may be that English is not your first language.  If someone with common sense wrote the instructions, they would clearly indicate in the text that the arrest questions are for the petitioner, instead of simply putting them directly after the beneficiary section and not labeling it as for the petitioner.... which is exactly what they did.

Part Two: INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR BENEFICIARY

Part Three: Other Information (ie no longer about the beneficiary)

 

 

 

9 hours ago, RickFlair said:

The court sent me documentation stating that I can "legally deny the arrest ever happened".

Have you read the instructions on the I-129F?

Even if you were informed you no longer have a criminal record you need to disclose the arrest.