Mom passed US citizen interview, but DAD failed

[SalishSea 17,818]

6 minutes ago, Florida012 said:

Agreed with you in that  part , but because is now through marriage I don't thing the civic questions is going to take place in that  occasion, but about the relationship about them, and personal things . and to be honest is gonna be hard for dad to pass those questions even if they have to go together to the interview if it takes place of course.

You have a misunderstanding about a basic part of this process:  whether your father was originally eligible to apply for citizenship via the 5 year (LPR resident in US for 5 years) or 3 year (LPR resident in US and married to USC for 3 years), the requirements for naturalization process is the same.  There is NO petition for this process.  

[Family 3,988]

7 minutes ago, Florida012 said:

Agreed with you in that  part , but because is now through marriage I don't thing the civic questions is going to take place in that  occasion, but about the relationship about them, and personal things . and to be honest is gonna be hard for dad to pass those questions even if they have to go together to the interview if it takes place of course.

Please FORGET everything you know , knew before making your post. If possible read each response trying to tell you…MOM / YOU have NOTHING to do w dads N-400. 

[discoverusa 258]

Your dad applies for his own citizenship. Him being married to your mom who is now a citizen has nothing to do with his citizenship application. 

Take some time to teach him English and reapply in the future. 

[Rocio0010 5,579]

39 minutes ago, Florida012 said:

Agreed with you in that  part , but because is now through marriage I don't thing the civic questions is going to take place in that  occasion, but about the relationship about them, and personal things . and to be honest is gonna be hard for dad to pass those questions even if they have to go together to the interview if it takes place of course.

Amigo, le estás errando feo!!! (I know this is English only forum, but Im telling him in clear Spanish he’s very, very confused!

 

Nobody petitions anybody for naturalization. He’s done with the part of somebody petitioning for him. His naturalization is his application. Yes, he can apply right away, no need to wait 5 years. 
And yes, for naturalization he will have the civics questions. While the officer might ask about his relationship, that’s not the main focus on this interview.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

6 hours ago, Florida012 said:

Hi, thanks for the replies guys. Sorry about the confusion, my mom wants to file for him right away the n400 through marriage.  Also I filed for both of them, through family (I''m a us citizen, and his son),so they went to the interview with differents IO, because I  filed for them individually ( one n400 for each of them)

There is no “n400 through marriage”.  He has to pass the test on his own regardless how he got his green card.

 

 

Edited August 5, 2022 by SusieQQQ

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

4 hours ago, Florida012 said:

Agreed with you in that  part , but because is now through marriage I don't thing the civic questions is going to take place in that  occasion, but about the relationship about them, and personal things . and to be honest is gonna be hard for dad to pass those questions even if they have to go together to the interview if it takes place of course.

From your first post, when you spoke about your parents getting their “n400 through you” (no, they didn’t ) you seem to be confusing two different processes. When someone wants to get a green card - that’s when they get “it” (the it being their green card) through another family member. Once someone has a green card - doesn’t matter how they got it - everything becomes equal for n400. The only way your father is going to become a citizen is by re-filing an N400 (no he doesn’t have to wait 5 years) and passing the test, the same test anyone else has to do. 

[Adventine 3,196]

It would help if OP researches free/discounted classes on naturalization in their area. These are frequently organized by nonprofits. Their father may benefit from learning from a bilingual teacher who has more experience prepping adult immigrants for the tests.

Edited August 5, 2022 by Adventine

[nastra30 2,284]

Op, you are trying to find some loop hole to get your father to naturalize because he failed his prior citizenship interview. Such loop does not exist. Your dad can reapply when he feels confident enough to do so; help him get some English lessons. 

Edited August 5, 2022 by nastra30

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

9 hours ago, Florida012 said:

Problem is he can't manage the English language. He is already 76 years old (7 years with his green card), and the only hope that he has  is to reach the 20 years with his green card (he'll be 89 years old at that time). I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel for him, from that  part .  So his only hope I guess it's if  my mother  filed a new n400 though marriage, instead of me, now that she is a new US citizen

But that's NOT A THING. A person files for naturalization for themselves, it's not like permanent residency when someone else can file for them and they get it on that basis.... You are confusing these 2 things by talking about how you filed for your parents' naturalization or how your mother wants to file for your father's, you can help them fill out forms, sure but you are not the petitioner...

 

The English requirements are what they are and the only exceptions are these: 

"You are exempt from the English language requirement, but are still required to take the civics test if you are:

• Age 50 or older at the time of filing for naturalization and have lived as a permanent resident (Green Card holder) in the United States for 20 years   (commonly referred to as the “50/20” exception).
  OR
• Age 55 or older at the time of filing for naturalization and have lived as a permanent resident in the United States for 15 years (commonly referred to as the “55/15” exception)"

 

In 8 years, when he's been a Green Card holder for 15 years, your father will qualify under the 55/15 exception, at the age of 84 or so.

Edited August 5, 2022 by EM_Vandaveer

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

9 hours ago, Florida012 said:

Agreed with you in that  part , but because is now through marriage I don't thing the civic questions is going to take place in that  occasion, but about the relationship about them, and personal things . and to be honest is gonna be hard for dad to pass those questions even if they have to go together to the interview if it takes place of course.

No,

1) it's not through marriage, your father has been a GC holder for over 5 years AND  he has NOT been married to a USC for 3 years since your mother just became a USC, he's been married to a USC for a few days....

2) there is no difference anyway in the civics & English portion whether one files under 3-year-rule or 5-year-rule

Edited August 5, 2022 by EM_Vandaveer

[Florida012 11]

Thanks everybody for your replies. You guys help me a lot, and helped me with many solutions. Now I know what to do.

Edited August 5, 2022 by Florida012

[Family 3,988]

3 minutes ago, Florida012 said:

Thanks everybody for your replies. You guys help me a lot, and helped me with many solutions. Now I know what to do.

Edited 1 minute ago by Florida012

Does dad really need to become USC? I thought maybe he wants to spend longer time in Peru and enjoy retirement….If that’s the case ( am assuming) , then u can file a re-entry permit I-131 and he can stay out for 2 years at a time

[Florida012 11]

He doesn't need to become a US citizen. He is enjoying retirement since he was 70 years old. He lives here in Florida too. The only reason for him to become a US citizen is because he just want it. Yesterday after he failed his exam, he told me is not the end of the world, he is not obsessed to become one either, and after you guys clarify me many things. It's up to him if he wants to try it or not. :), but know him very well, I don't think he wants to do it right away, at least not for now.

Edited August 5, 2022 by Florida012

[Family 3,988]

1 minute ago, Florida012 said:

He doesn't need to become a US citizen. He is enjoying retirement since he was 70 years old. He lives here in Florida too. The only reason for him to become a US citizen is because he just want it. Yesterday after he failed his exam, he told me is not the end of the world, he is not obsessed to become one either, and after you guys clarify me many things. It's up to him if he wants to try it or not. :). 

Tell him I admire him for making the effort at 76! And if he wants to have fun and take classes like a youngster as @Adventine suggested , many are available in your area for free. And Big Big congratulations to your Mom! 
 

[Florida012 11]

Thanks, I really appreciate your kind words, God bless you, and all the families of this forum.