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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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I'm considering accepting a job offer outside the United States. It's a permanent role. We are Sept 2021 ROC filers. If I accept the role, I'm thinking the company may ask us to move there by November 2022. 

 

So the question is, how long can we stay outside the United States? I can, of course, ask relatives to keep checking my mail so that we can get any documentation they send us. If there's a specific date we need to show up by, we can fly back for that date. 

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I wouldn’t go anywhere on permanent basis until I had completed naturalization and had US passport in hand.
 

Max 6 months at a time so you don’t disrupt residency if you’re not going to naturalize. 

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Naturalization 2010

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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8 minutes ago, swhang said:

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So the question is, how long can we stay outside the United States?

180 days is the written standard.  Some people are found by CBP to have abandoned status with shorter absences.  

8 minutes ago, swhang said:

I can, of course, ask relatives to keep checking my mail so that we can get any documentation they send us. If there's a specific date we need to show up by, we can fly back for that date. 

You should file I-131 to get a re-entry permit. This will let you stay out of the USA for up to 2 years 

 

Note that any continuous absence of 181 days or more will be presumed to have broken continuous residency for naturalization purposes.  

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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What if we're ok with simply ROC and being on green card? We're learning on her keeping her Korean citizenship b/c of its excellent healthcare system and if things in the United States keep going down, then the path to Korean would be open. 

 

So if we're only interested in ROC right now, is travel outside the United States for 180+ days fine? Once we get notification and if another interview if required for ROC, we can just fly back. 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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3 minutes ago, swhang said:

  

 

So if we're only interested in ROC right now, is travel outside the United States for 180+ days fine? Once we get notification and if another interview if required for ROC, we can just fly back. 

Continuous absences more than 180 days are not fine.  File I-131 to get a re-entry permit.  

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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How permanent is permanent.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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38 minutes ago, Boiler said:

How permanent is permanent.

 

It's a permanent position. So it's either until when I resign or I am let go. The company will give me 38 days of vacation per year and so that should leave me enough time to come back and deal with any immigration issues. 

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2 minutes ago, swhang said:

 

It's a permanent position. So it's either until when I resign or I am let go. The company will give me 38 days of vacation per year and so that should leave me enough time to come back and deal with any immigration issues. 

38 days per year, even if you spend them all in the US is not enough to maintain your permanent residency. You have to decide whether:

- you live in the US until you naturalize and then move overseas if you wish

- you abandon your permanent residency in the US

 

You can obtain re-entry permit that's valid for up to 2 years, but that's not a permanent solution.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, swhang said:

What if we're ok with simply ROC and being on green card? We're learning on her keeping her Korean citizenship b/c of its excellent healthcare system and if things in the United States keep going down, then the path to Korean would be open. 

 

So if we're only interested in ROC right now, is travel outside the United States for 180+ days fine? Once we get notification and if another interview if required for ROC, we can just fly back. 

A green card is for living in the US. You will be living outside of the US. Trying to ‘check back in’ with the US every now and then is not going to cut it and will eventually be cause for losing your green card.

“It’s been 84 years…” 

- Me talking about the progress of my I-751

 

 

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8 hours ago, swhang said:

So if we're only interested in ROC right now, is travel outside the United States for 180+ days fine? Once we get notification and if another interview if required for ROC, we can just fly back. 

No, it’s not. Think of it this way: why would the government give permanent residence to someone not living in the US?

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January 15, 2020 RFE received

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April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

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February 1, 2022 package sent

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There is always the option of filing the I407, formally giving up the green card, and if plans change in a few years, file for a new spousal visa.  Less gymnastics involved in trying to maintain LPR status.

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US Entry : 2014-09-12

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Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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7 hours ago, swhang said:

 

It's a permanent position. So it's either until when I resign or I am let go. The company will give me 38 days of vacation per year and so that should leave me enough time to come back and deal with any immigration issues. 

That is an inaccurate assumption.  Maintaining US residency requires more than popping back into the US a few days a year. 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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Does South Korea not allow dual citizenship?

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

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AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

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N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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36 minutes ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Does South Korea not allow dual citizenship?

No, according to my research.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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