Denied entry at SEATAC & B1/B2 Visa Revoked - What Next?

[EA and MK 48]

1 minute ago, Mwamba said:

Another question:

WRT her passports, because the passports were marked with "Revoked Visa", do you recommend that they get new passports? Someone mentioned that it may be a good idea to get new passport that have no markings.

 

Mwamba

I don't know who told you this was a good idea, but (not trying to be rude) stop listening to con artists. You only get one chance to establish a trustworthy relationship with the US government. Trying to pull this nonsense will eventually lead to trying to do other crazy things that eventually will get your wife banned permanently. And only cause someone said it was a "good" idea.  There are great tools and resources available on this site to help navigate the petition process. Read and follow that. 

[Crazy Cat 41,594]

18 minutes ago, Mwamba said:

Someone mentioned that it may be a good idea to get new passport that have no markings.

Absurd.  Ignore that person for immigration advice.

[canadian_wife 1,817]

18 minutes ago, Mwamba said:

Another question:

WRT her passports, because the passports were marked with "Revoked Visa", do you recommend that they get new passports? Someone mentioned that it may be a good idea to get new passport that have no markings.

 

Mwamba

 

This is a non issue.  Having a passport with 'no markings' will not impact her future K1/Cr1 visas

 

Good luck

[Mwamba 25]

11 minutes ago, EA and MK said:

I don't know who told you this was a good idea, but (not trying to be rude) stop listening to con artists. You only get one chance to establish a trustworthy relationship with the US government. Trying to pull this nonsense will eventually lead to trying to do other crazy things that eventually will get your wife banned permanently. And only cause someone said it was a "good" idea.  There are great tools and resources available on this site to help navigate the petition process. Read and follow that. 

@EA and MK - that's why am here. Actually, I got recommendation from a friend about starting a thread here - so some advice is good. I just need to be really careful from now going forward. There's just too much "con-information" out there with people who feel they're "experts!" Am glad I started this thread and I appreciate all the good advice given. 🤗

1 minute ago, Crazy Cat said:

Absurd.  Ignore that person for immigration advice.

@Crazy CatThanks!!!

[Mwamba 25]

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

They were rightly denied entry.  That's not how US immigration is done.

 

You need to petition them properly.  It will take AT LEAST two years before they can get immigrant visas.

 

As a green card holder yourself, I'm surprised you went into this without a legitimate plan for them to immigrate.

 

You can marry in any country where it is legal/where she can travel to.  It would be a 'destination wedding.' however;  you would not be 'going to the local USA embassy'  in that country for a visa.

 

I strongly suggest you begin reading and researching this process.  Lack of education about it has already cost you time and visa revocation.   It is an expensive and time-consuming process, and not just a matter of a plane ticket.

@JorgedigThanks!!!

2 hours ago, Misscloud said:

1. if u married ( no 2) u cant apply for fiance visa. fiance only if u havent get married

2. u cant apply visa in a country if you are not resident / legal residences in that country

3. u can do utah online wedding, visit her in her country to consumate the marriage and APPLY spouse visa ( roughly 18 months- 2 years)

 

immigration journey is expensive and take patience. nothing is fast / express

 

@MisscloudThanks!!!

[Mwamba 25]

1 hour ago, arken said:

Even you are admitting that their plan was to marry and stay in the US so the CBP was not in the wrong to send them back.

 

You are not a USC so fiance visa is not allowed. The only option is to marry her. She can't just apply for spousal visa after marriage. You have to petition for her and her kids will be derivatives to her case. The process takes 1.5 - 2 years. If you become a USC, you have to petition for all three separately.

@arken Thanks!!!

1 hour ago, powerpuff said:

~~ Topic moved from Vietnam regional sub forum to Bringing Family members of permanent residents - OP is a green card holder ~~

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[Mwamba 25]

1 hour ago, SusieQQQ said:

This ^^ it often makes sense to stay a LPR when petitioning a spouse with derivatives. 
 

@SusieQQQ Thanks!!!

1 hour ago, EmilyW said:

Don't just get a refund.  Report them to their local association.  What they suggested is immigration fraud.

@EmilyW Thanks!!!

[Mwamba 25]

1 hour ago, Pinkrlion said:

a LPR that divorced a US Citizen where they obtained their LPR status cannot apply for a new spouse until they have held LPR status for 5 years or until they have obtained Citizenship.  Even if you tried to marry and adjust in the US, it would have been denied if you have not had your LPR status for 5 years.  

 

Since you have divorced a US Citizen, you cannot apply for Citizenship for 5 years.  

@Pinkrlion Thanks!!!

[Pinkrlion 2,704]

25 minutes ago, Mwamba said:

Another question:

WRT her passports, because the passports were marked with "Revoked Visa", do you recommend that they get new passports? Someone mentioned that it may be a good idea to get new passport that have no markings.

 

Mwamba

Still fraud - lying about revoked visa

[Mwamba 25]

Just now, Pinkrlion said:

Still fraud - lying about revoked visa

Yap. We'll just use the passports that we have. Cheers!

 

Mwamba

[Verrou 1,960]

2 minutes ago, Mwamba said:

Yap. We'll just use the passports that we have. Cheers!

 

Mwamba

even with new passport, still the same person / info / data.

do it the right way...DONT LIE,  DONT DO FRAUD

 

[Mwamba 25]

5 minutes ago, Misscloud said:

even with new passport, still the same person / info / data.

do it the right way...DONT LIE,  DONT DO FRAUD

 

Gotcha! Wish us luck! And thanks again!

 

Mwamba

[davidvs 336]

1 hour ago, Mwamba said:

We were not planning to do any fraud or anything.

 

 

 

We consulted with a lawyer here and she recommended that it's best for her to come as a visitor, we get married after 60 days and then apply for her papers.

This is the very definition of visa fraud.

[SalishSea 17,736]

13 minutes ago, Mwamba said:

Yap. We'll just use the passports that we have. Cheers!

 

Mwamba

Also, just FYI:  getting new passports does not "erase" a person's travel or immigration history.  CBP writes copious notes in the computer files, which will then be visible to the department of state.

[African Zealot 1,455]

1 hour ago, Mwamba said:

Technically, she's my wife - only waiting to officialize it!

There are no technicalities involved her. Keep it simple and what is on paper. Technically I am the pope, I am just waiting to finalize it. 😆

 

1 hour ago, Mwamba said:

We consulted with a lawyer here and she recommended that it's best for her to come as a visitor, we get married after 60 days and then apply for her papers.

The lawyer not only needs to refund your money, she needs to rewrite the board exam and sign on to VJ as an unpaid intern for one year before giving advice on immigration. That 30/60 day rule by Department of State in any case has been replaced by a stricter 90 day rule. In any case USCIS are not bound by DOS rules and they state that explicitly although they indicate it is an analytic tool.  Additionally, she also actively asked you commit fraud.

 

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USCIS incorporates State Department’s ‘90-Day Rule’ | Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Inc. (CLINIC) (cliniclegal.org)

 

Last year the Department of State announced that it was replacing its  “30/60-day rule” with a “90-day rule” as the standard applied by consular officers in evaluating inadmissibility for fraud pursuant to INA § 212(a)(6)(C)(i). The 90-day rule subjects a nonimmigrant to a presumption of having made a willful material misrepresentation at the time of admission or application for a nonimmigrant visa when that nonimmigrant enters the United States and within 90 days engages in conduct inconsistent with his or her nonimmigrant status. The Foreign Affairs Manual at 9 FAM 302.9-4(B)(3) enumerates the following examples of inconsistent conduct:

 

 

You've received excellent advice here, good luck.

Edited July 28, 2022 by African Zealot