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Hi all.

I'll be filing for ROC of my original 2yr marriage based green card in early 2023 (February) and I'm trying to get a sense of whether it makes a difference in terms of overall timeline to file concurrently for N400 (at the appropriate time after my ROC filing). I'm also hoping some of the backlog might clear between now and February, or that I'll get my interview waived (still married, lots of pictures including of our wedding celebration that was COVID postponed, and joint financial holdings etc).

 

I know that this will shorten my overall timeline to US citizenship, but I was wondering if overall it'll be slower than applying only to remove conditions and get my 10yr green card. I'm guessing it'll be 1.5-2.5 years total for the N400 approval, vs potentially just 18 months for the ROC portion.

I'm mainly just a bit fatigued by the entire process (i.e. it was a blissful 18 months of not having to carry extra paperwork overseas) but also know life gets much easier once I get a US passport.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

A magical mystery tour of many US visas prior to AOS... (J-1, F-1, H-1B)

I-485/AOS:

Spoiler

EAD/AP - NOA received May 18, 2020

AOS - NOA received May 18, 2020

Biometrics (Code 2) - August 5, 2020

Biometrics take 2 (Code 3) - August 27, 2020

Ready to be Scheduled for Interview - September 8, 2020

EAD/AP Approval Notice - October  1, 2020

EAD Card Received - October 13, 2020

Interview Scheduled Notification - March 1, 2021

Interview Scheduled - April 6, 2021

GC Approved - May 7, 2021

GC Mailed - May 11, 2021

GC Delivered - May 11, 2021

 

N400 Citizenship:

File Date - January 8, 2024

Biometrics Waiver - January 8, 2024

Interview Scheduled - March 7, 2024

Interview Date - April 12, 2024

Conditionally Approved Pending I-751 Transfer - April 12, 2024

I-751 Case Was Transferred to Another Office - April 12, 2024

Case Approved - May 5, 2024

Oath Ceremony to be Scheduled - May 5, 2024

Oath Scheduled - May 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony - June 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony Cancelled - June 12, 2024

Oath Ceremony Rescheduled Date - July 30, 2024

DONE

 

Removal of Conditions:

File Date - January 7, 2023

Package Delivered - January 9, 2023

NOA Date - January 10, 2023

NOA Received - January 17, 2023 (dated "received" January 9, 2023)

48 Month Extension Received - March 20, 2023

Case Approved - May 3, 2024
 

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This depends on the field office.  
 

* In some field offices, it appears filing N-400 while I-751 is pending will speed up the I-751 process.
 

* In others it has the opposite effect. For example in Seattle, my understanding is filing N-400 immediately pauses I-751 and you are then placed in a queue to have your process processed by a specialist trained in combo interviews: The Seattle field director has decided to train a hand full of officers in combos.  
 

* I believe some other offices there simply won’t be any progress on the N-400 until I-751 is approved. 
 

For the latter 2 cases your legal remedy is an administrative procedures act / write of mandamus combination law suit. Since these cases take but a few minutes to adjudicate, it’s cheaper for USCIS to settle these out of court by scheduling an interview(s).  

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Thanks @Mike E - is there any way to know where you field office will be based on geography of where I live, or are cases assigned randomly? Mainly wondering if comparing the processing estimates is how to figure this out!

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A magical mystery tour of many US visas prior to AOS... (J-1, F-1, H-1B)

I-485/AOS:

Spoiler

EAD/AP - NOA received May 18, 2020

AOS - NOA received May 18, 2020

Biometrics (Code 2) - August 5, 2020

Biometrics take 2 (Code 3) - August 27, 2020

Ready to be Scheduled for Interview - September 8, 2020

EAD/AP Approval Notice - October  1, 2020

EAD Card Received - October 13, 2020

Interview Scheduled Notification - March 1, 2021

Interview Scheduled - April 6, 2021

GC Approved - May 7, 2021

GC Mailed - May 11, 2021

GC Delivered - May 11, 2021

 

N400 Citizenship:

File Date - January 8, 2024

Biometrics Waiver - January 8, 2024

Interview Scheduled - March 7, 2024

Interview Date - April 12, 2024

Conditionally Approved Pending I-751 Transfer - April 12, 2024

I-751 Case Was Transferred to Another Office - April 12, 2024

Case Approved - May 5, 2024

Oath Ceremony to be Scheduled - May 5, 2024

Oath Scheduled - May 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony - June 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony Cancelled - June 12, 2024

Oath Ceremony Rescheduled Date - July 30, 2024

DONE

 

Removal of Conditions:

File Date - January 7, 2023

Package Delivered - January 9, 2023

NOA Date - January 10, 2023

NOA Received - January 17, 2023 (dated "received" January 9, 2023)

48 Month Extension Received - March 20, 2023

Case Approved - May 3, 2024
 

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46 minutes ago, Rearviewmirror said:

Thanks @Mike E - is there any way to know where you field office will be based on geography of where I live, or are cases assigned randomly? Mainly wondering if comparing the processing estimates is how to figure this out!

https://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-a-uscis-office/field-offices
 

as the lengthy preamble notes, cases can get relocated to “nearby” (I’ve heard it cases in Seattle being sent to Portland Oregon for interviews)

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9 minutes ago, Mike E said:

https://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-a-uscis-office/field-offices
 

as the lengthy preamble notes, cases can get relocated to “nearby” (I’ve heard it cases in Seattle being sent to Portland Oregon for interviews)

Thanks Mike - that worked for N400. Do you know if there's rationale to which service center your 751 gets assigned to?

A magical mystery tour of many US visas prior to AOS... (J-1, F-1, H-1B)

I-485/AOS:

Spoiler

EAD/AP - NOA received May 18, 2020

AOS - NOA received May 18, 2020

Biometrics (Code 2) - August 5, 2020

Biometrics take 2 (Code 3) - August 27, 2020

Ready to be Scheduled for Interview - September 8, 2020

EAD/AP Approval Notice - October  1, 2020

EAD Card Received - October 13, 2020

Interview Scheduled Notification - March 1, 2021

Interview Scheduled - April 6, 2021

GC Approved - May 7, 2021

GC Mailed - May 11, 2021

GC Delivered - May 11, 2021

 

N400 Citizenship:

File Date - January 8, 2024

Biometrics Waiver - January 8, 2024

Interview Scheduled - March 7, 2024

Interview Date - April 12, 2024

Conditionally Approved Pending I-751 Transfer - April 12, 2024

I-751 Case Was Transferred to Another Office - April 12, 2024

Case Approved - May 5, 2024

Oath Ceremony to be Scheduled - May 5, 2024

Oath Scheduled - May 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony - June 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony Cancelled - June 12, 2024

Oath Ceremony Rescheduled Date - July 30, 2024

DONE

 

Removal of Conditions:

File Date - January 7, 2023

Package Delivered - January 9, 2023

NOA Date - January 10, 2023

NOA Received - January 17, 2023 (dated "received" January 9, 2023)

48 Month Extension Received - March 20, 2023

Case Approved - May 3, 2024
 

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1 hour ago, Rearviewmirror said:

Thanks Mike - that worked for N400. Do you know if there's rationale to which service center your 751 gets assigned to?

No idea.  It’s not something in my control so it never concerned me. 

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I heard it got better this year, some of 2020 filers of i751 were stuck during A-files are locked somewhere and employee shortage to keep sending them to uscis.

I know a lady got interview in TX within 2mo of filing then 2020 filers are still waiting.

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