The dreaded DS-5535 thread for Montreal. Post here and support each other (PART 2)

[Waiting forever11 1]

Has anyone reached out to the consulate while WOM has been served and awaiting reply? 

[ice-qube 649]

43 minutes ago, Waiting forever11 said:

Has anyone reached out to the consulate while WOM has been served and awaiting reply? 

Well, I had to reach out to them subsequent to my filing to correct an odd status problem, and they eventually replied and corrected. I am still here in WOM limbo, and I have begun to wonder about whether my money was even well spent. But that's another subject.

 

 

[ice-qube 649]

I feel cheated at this point, I am like the longest-serving member of this thread, and no sign yet that anything is changing for me, even after the expense of filing the suit. 

 

Best case scenario, it looks like I will spend *at least* several more months in limbo, after 3.5 years of process already. Ladies and gentlemen and whoever else, I am tired and getting low on money at this point.. I hope none of you will have such an embittering, absurd situation with this process as I have had, I would be reluctant to wish this on my worst enemy.

[Waiting forever11 1]

1 hour ago, ice-qube said:

Well, I had to reach out to them subsequent to my filing to correct an odd status problem, and they eventually replied and corrected. I am still here in WOM limbo, and I have begun to wonder about whether my money was even well spent. But that's another subject.

 

 

Thank you for your reply 

[BatmanFlow 481]

2 hours ago, ice-qube said:

I feel cheated at this point, I am like the longest-serving member of this thread, and no sign yet that anything is changing for me, even after the expense of filing the suit. 

 

Best case scenario, it looks like I will spend *at least* several more months in limbo, after 3.5 years of process already. Ladies and gentlemen and whoever else, I am tired and getting low on money at this point.. I hope none of you will have such an embittering, absurd situation with this process as I have had, I would be reluctant to wish this on my worst enemy.

cant even imagine the anguish you are going through. staying away from your spouse for that long, pretty much putting your life on hold. These people are literally toying with people's lives here.

i really hope movement in your case this coming month

[Tiabeanie 39]

On 11/26/2022 at 3:13 PM, Gha said:

Hi friends

I am new here on this form.I want to share my interview experience.

I had a interview on 24 October 2022.she quickly asked me few questions.Afrer the interview she said your going to Ap.she kept my passport and all my original documents.she said we don’t need any documents from you but they asked me to sign a paper .she give me 22g white paper

she said next communication we will touch with you in email..my case updated two time till right now

can please anyone guide me how long it will take to issue the visa 

Thank you 

Have you tried reaching out to the embassy via email to inquire about your status? 

 

Same thing happened to me I had my interview on Oct 31 and I was put into 221g and told they didn't need additional documents. I emailed them to inquire about my status 2 weeks after my interview and they responded to my email a week later and told me I need to send another police certificate. I'll be honest I'm irritated this wasn't communicated to me earlier. Pretty incompetent on their part. If I didn't email them I would've been still waiting.

Edited November 29, 2022 by Tiabeanie

[Ds553513 16]

Hi @Tiabeanie No I did not email them I want to complete my 60 days

thank you 

[EB_Stuck 47]

8 hours ago, ice-qube said:

Well, I had to reach out to them subsequent to my filing to correct an odd status problem, and they eventually replied and corrected. I am still here in WOM limbo, and I have begun to wonder about whether my money was even well spent. But that's another subject.

 

 

Brother, if I could give my 2cents; I would advise to embrace positivity rather than focusing on negativity. My personal experience revealed that the more I focused on the positive actions and leaving the rest to the destiny; helped me to deal with reality.  At the end of day, we are all microspec in the whole universal vastness. In grand scheme of existence, we actually don't exist or for that matter don't even matter! So make the best of it, no matter where you are.  Cheers!

[From_CAN_2_US 1,106]

8 hours ago, ice-qube said:

I feel cheated at this point, I am like the longest-serving member of this thread, and no sign yet that anything is changing for me, even after the expense of filing the suit. 

 

Best case scenario, it looks like I will spend *at least* several more months in limbo, after 3.5 years of process already. Ladies and gentlemen and whoever else, I am tired and getting low on money at this point.. I hope none of you will have such an embittering, absurd situation with this process as I have had, I would be reluctant to wish this on my worst enemy.

Truer words have not been spoken.

 

It was your DS-5535 issuance that lead to the conception of this thread. It is heartbreaking to see people come and go, while you have been kept waiting…

 

I too hope December will bring you your approval and you can reunite with your spouse…

[PZibran325 112]

16 hours ago, BatmanFlow said:

cant even imagine the anguish you are going through. staying away from your spouse for that long, pretty much putting your life on hold. These people are literally toying with people's lives here.

i really hope movement in your case this coming month

I so agree they are toying with people's lives. I'm all for vetting people, and doing background checks. But this is too much. How much are you going to accomplish by so deeply vetting someone who can cross the border so easily with their Canadian passport without ever applying for immigration?

 

If someone with a Canadian passport had nefarious intentions, I highly doubt they'd go through the long and arduous process of finding a US citizen spouse just so they can apply for immigration and enter the US to carry out whatever evil plans they had.

 

Wouldn't they be able to do the same just by "visiting" the US? It's laughable that you'd allow these evil Canadians to cross the border without a visa or a background check for a visit, but god forbid they want to marry someone from the States they'll get treated as if the immigration is some unique treasure they are after to escape their third-world problems in Canada or to carry out some evil intentions.

 

It is beyond me what immigration is hoping to accomplish by putting people (who can otherwise cross the border so easily) in AP after they have already gone through background checks and provided police certificates. The only thing they're doing is keeping families from reuniting, and causing unnecessary financial and emotional hardship.  

Edited November 29, 2022 by PZibran325

[ice-qube 649]

11 hours ago, PZibran325 said:

I so agree they are toying with people's lives. I'm all for vetting people, and doing background checks. But this is too much. How much are you going to accomplish by so deeply vetting someone who can cross the border so easily with their Canadian passport without ever applying for immigration?

 

If someone with a Canadian passport had nefarious intentions, I highly doubt they'd go through the long and arduous process of finding a US citizen spouse just so they can apply for immigration and enter the US to carry out whatever evil plans they had.

 

Wouldn't they be able to do the same just by "visiting" the US? It's laughable that you'd allow these evil Canadians to cross the border without a visa or a background check for a visit, but god forbid they want to marry someone from the States they'll get treated as if the immigration is some unique treasure they are after to escape their third-world problems in Canada or to carry out some evil intentions.

 

It is beyond me what immigration is hoping to accomplish by putting people (who can otherwise cross the border so easily) in AP after they have already gone through background checks and provided police certificates. The only thing they're doing is keeping families from reuniting, and causing unnecessary financial and emotional hardship.  

The idea that they legit need 3-4 years to vet me, or anyone else on this thread, is beyond a joke. It is theatre of the absurd now. I am disgusted. I see even the people who filed WOM suits facing second extensions even, as the government now figured out how to delay people that way, too. I am very, very disenchanted, and am just looking for something to restore my faith in this process. I see none. 

[ice-qube 649]

22 hours ago, From_CAN_2_US said:

Truer words have not been spoken.

 

It was your DS-5535 issuance that lead to the conception of this thread. It is heartbreaking to see people come and go, while you have been kept waiting…

 

I too hope December will bring you your approval and you can reunite with your spouse…

Even doing what i didn't want to do, filing WOM, this has not produced anything for me yet, and the way some cases are going, I think they are becoming more adept at the tricks to delay even after filing the suit, asking for-- and being granted--multiple 60-day extensions. They are pulling out whatever they can to mitigate the increased number of WOM suits they are facing. 

[PZibran325 112]

11 hours ago, ice-qube said:

The idea that they legit need 3-4 years to vet me, or anyone else on this thread, is beyond a joke. It is theatre of the absurd now. I am disgusted. I see even the people who filed WOM suits facing second extensions even, as the government now figured out how to delay people that way, too. I am very, very disenchanted, and am just looking for something to restore my faith in this process. I see none. 

I'm not sure if I understand the thought process behind  extreme vetting (which is what DS 5535 is ) of Canadian passport holders who can easily cross the border without ever going through the immigration process. Regular background checks and clearances should in general be enough. I don't think it is a process that should be used as frequently as it seems to be used by the Montreal consulate.

 

I know many have disagreed with you in the past when you have suggested they are using it to clear their interviewing queues, but I'm inclined to consider that is probably the reason for putting so many through AP. Especially since During the course of my research, I have read that The U.S. consular officer decides on the day of the visa interview which applicants must complete the DS-5535. So it would seem that It is gross ineptitude and inefficiencies on their part that has lead to such alarmingly increasing numbers of AP with DS 5535 .  Other than this possibility, putting Canadian passport holders through this process seems to defy logic regardless of whether it takes months or years to clear. 

 

As for the WOM, I understand it is being delayed for you have you seen it being delayed for others?

Edited November 30, 2022 by PZibran325

[emergence 47]

36 minutes ago, PZibran325 said:

I'm not sure if I understand the thought process behind  extreme vetting (which is what DS 5535 is ) of Canadian passport holders who can easily cross the border without ever going through the immigration process. Regular background checks and clearances should in general be enough. I don't think it is a process that should be used as frequently as it seems to be used by the Montreal consulate.

 

I know many have disagreed with you in the past when you have suggested they are using it to clear their interviewing queues, but I'm inclined to consider that is probably the reason for putting so many through AP. Especially since During the course of my research, I have read that The U.S. consular officer decides on the day of the visa interview which applicants must complete the DS-5535. So it would seem that It is gross ineptitude and inefficiencies on their part that has lead to such alarmingly increasing numbers of AP with DS 5535 .  Other than this possibility, putting Canadian passport holders through this process seems to defy logic regardless of whether it takes months or years to clear. 

 

As for the WOM, I understand it is being delayed for you have you seen it being delayed for others?

How would this realistically help them close interviewing queues? Approvals mean they don’t have to see the applicant ever again. DS-5535 keeps people in the system longer - the opposite of what should, logically, be their objective.

[PZibran325 112]

8 minutes ago, emergence said:

How would this realistically help them close interviewing queues? Approvals mean they don’t have to see the applicant ever again. DS-5535 keeps people in the system longer - the opposite of what should, logically, be their objective.

It helps them clear the interview queue. They have a backlog of interviews from covid times during which they were working under limited operations so they were not scheduling many interviews during that time they had an appropriate excuse for not being able to scheudle interviews in a timely manner. Now that that "emergency" is over and they are back to full operations there is pressure to schedule interviews in a timely manner. There's not much of an excuse they can give to delay interviews, so they have been scheduling those in a timely manner however that may have resulted in them not having the time to perform additional checks on the documents they have received from the NVC which they would have under normal circumstances. So while they have scheduled interviews in a timely manner, they haven't necessarily been able to perform second checks on the interviewees documents etc. So some of us believe this is why they put applicants under AP and push that part down the line. Because with AP they can keep saying there is not time limit for that process but for setting interviews they cannot say that. It's circular and convoluted and only pushes the bucket down the line, but I hope that clears up why some of us think that way. Also do note that once the case it is not necessarily the consulates job to perform checks, so they clear their own queue but pass the buck to someone else.