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Hello I will be filling an I-751 divorce waiver soon. I like to be prepared for the worst so I would like to know if anyone knows what to do after I-751 is denied. I know you can file it again based on the response you get from USCIS but it you get a NTA what can you do? I work at tech and I believe my employer could file an AOS for me, is this something that could be done since the I-751 has only been denied and Im technically still a permanent resident?  Does anyone have experience with doing something like this?

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9 minutes ago, jsv154 said:

Hello I will be filling an I-751 divorce waiver soon. I like to be prepared for the worst so I would like to know if anyone knows what to do after I-751 is denied. I know you can file it again based on the response you get from USCIS but it you get a NTA what can you do? I work at tech and I believe my employer could file an AOS for me, is this something that could be done since the I-751 has only been denied and Im technically still a permanent resident?  Does anyone have experience with doing something like this?

Removal of conditions would only be denied if they find that you received your conditional GC through a fraudulent marriage.   Why are you worried about that?

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Like I said, I just like to always be prepared for the worst case. Also by looking at the history of @mindthegap and others that have posted It is not always denied because of a fraudulent marriage. I have a ton of evidence but still you never know.

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59 minutes ago, jsv154 said:

Like I said, I just like to always be prepared for the worst case. Also by looking at the history of @mindthegap and others that have posted It is not always denied because of a fraudulent marriage. I have a ton of evidence but still you never know.

I don’t think there are that many ROC denials though? We were just talking about the fact that it’s a silly thing anyways, and with the low denial rates, makes so little sense (but it’s money in the bank I guess!).

Unless there is proof that the marriage was  a scam or you don’t have all documentation that you need, I don’t know why your ROC would be denied? 

Edited by Daphne K

“It’s been 84 years…” 

- Me talking about the progress of my I-751

 

 

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3 hours ago, jsv154 said:

it you get a NTA what can you do?

If you get a NTA (Notice to Appear), you just show up in court and state your truth. If you were not in a fraudulent marriage, then said NTA might be dismissed and ROC granted 

 

3 hours ago, jsv154 said:

is this something that could be done since the I-751 has only been denied and Im technically still a permanent resident?

 Wow, hold on! If you’re a permanent resident, no, you can’t file a new i485. My understanding is that you’ll need to have your status terminated first, which will put you into removal proceedings. And I believe that only an IJ can stripe you off your status, which could take years from now. Only then could you readjust. 
If your i751 is denied, you keep on applying and giving them what they want.

But what makes you think it can be denied? I know you said you like to be prepared for the worst, but how about you use all that energy to prepare a solid, well- rounded package?

FROM F1 TO AOS

October 17, 2019 AOS receipt date 

December 09, 2019: Biometric appointment

January 15, 2020 RFE received

January 30, 2020  RFE response sent

Feb 7: EAD approved and interview scheduled

March 18, 2020 Interview cancelled

April 14th 2020: RFE received

April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

February 1, 2022 package sent

March 28, 2022 Fingerprints reused

July 18, 2023 approval

July 20, 2023 Card in hand

 

N400 

January 30,2023: Online filing

February 4th, 2023: Biometric appointment

June 15th, 2023: Case actively being reviewed

July 11th, 2023: Interview scheduled.

August 30th, 2023: Interview!

August 31st, 2023: Oath ceremony scheduled.

Sept 19th, 2023: Officially a US citizen!

 


 

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One day at a time. Stressing over something that in all probability will never happen, is completely counter productive. 

File the best i-751 you can, with every single possible piece of evidence you can think of that may be helpful. 

 

If it was to get denied, your subsequent course of action would be entirely dependent on why it was denied. That aside, broadly speaking, your main immediate options would be one or a combination of the following; 

 a)file another i-751,

b) file an i-290b, if you meet the very narrow criteria for it,

c) do nothing, wait for an NTA and go to court,

d) file a new i-130 if you have since married an american citizen. 

 

4 hours ago, jsv154 said:

Like I said, I just like to always be prepared for the worst case. Also by looking at the history of @mindthegap and others that have posted It is not always denied because of a fraudulent marriage. I have a ton of evidence but still you never know.

My ex spouse is an abusive sociopathic narcissist of amber heard proportions who straight up lied to USCIS in a malicious and deliberate attempt to ruin my life, and get me deported. 

My experience, although not my any means unique, is far, far from the norm. If you worry to that extent, you will drive yourself mad.

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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I get anxiety at the thought of the interview, not so much about being denied. I know my marriage was real and I have a mountain of evidence to prove it. You shouldn't be worried if your marriage was genuine. 

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On 7/17/2022 at 1:25 AM, HarryWL said:

I get anxiety at the thought of the interview, not so much about being denied. I know my marriage was real and I have a mountain of evidence to prove it. You shouldn't be worried if your marriage was genuine. 

If you're anxious about the interview, hire a good attorney to go with you.

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8 hours ago, Rafagus said:

If you're anxious about the interview, hire a good attorney to go with you.

 

It's just a trait I have, I'm not doubtful in my ability to complete the process successfully, I've done everything so far by myself. I'm just not fan of those settings. If anything it's just annoying having to dig everything up 2-3 years later after getting divorced, it's so invasive. 

 

But it is what it is. 

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7 hours ago, HarryWL said:

 

It's just a trait I have, I'm not doubtful in my ability to complete the process successfully, I've done everything so far by myself. I'm just not fan of those settings. If anything it's just annoying having to dig everything up 2-3 years later after getting divorced, it's so invasive. 

 

But it is what it is. 

For immigration, almost nothing is off limits, esp. when there have been stories of them even asking for intimate details of couples in interviews and that also should not be an issue (minus the uncomfortable part - deal with it). 

 

If really shady people can get their ROC approved, then you, a real case shouldn't be worried. 

 

Its best to keep all the records from the past in a folder or at least have them scanned. You never know when you will need them again.

 

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