I-864 inquiry Joint sponsor (merged threads)

[cammykam 0]

Hi,  I have some questions that I am not understand the message from NVC

 

My husband and her mother are US citizen.  They are both sponsor me to US through spouse pathway.  In April 2022, I submitted I-864(Joint sponsor) from my husband and I-864A(household member) from his mother as my sponsorship.  Unfortunately, the message came back from NVC as

 

'Mary Chan does not qualify to be a Household Member. Please add this person as a Joint Sponsor, and submit all of their financial documents under their own name. Visit https://www.uscis.gov/i-864 and submit Form I-864. FINANCIAL SPONSORSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES: Financial sponsors, joint sponsors, and applicants should be aware of responsibilities when signing an I-864 and the consequences for a sponsored immigrant's acceptance of federal means-tested public benefits. For more information visit https://nvc.state.gov/aos.'

 

*My husband lives and works in Hong Kong, his salary income hit the requirement but he do not works and  lives in US for nearly 10 years

*His mother lives and works as part time job in US

*My husband and my part are all accepted

*Our (husband, her mother and me) asset meet the requirement for the 48 Contiguous States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands: 3ppl $28,787-10700*5=18,787

 

Question

As his mother needs to be change from household member to joint member for my application, if her salary income is USD10700 per year only, and she is already 65 years old, i do not think she can pass the review by NVC herself?  Or the NVC will count for my husband, his mother and my  salary and all the current assets together that my case can be accept by NVC?

 

His mother supported me mainly the living address in US

My husband supported me mainly for the income and current assets

 

Is that NVC will count all these things together or NVC will count separately for my sponsor from them? 

 

Thank you. 

 

Cammy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SalishSea 17,829]

1 hour ago, cammykam said:

Hi,  I have some questions that I am not understand the message from NVC

 

My husband and her mother are US citizen.  They are both sponsor me to US through spouse pathway.  In April 2022, I submitted I-864(Joint sponsor) from my husband and I-864A(household member) from his mother as my sponsorship.  Unfortunately, the message came back from NVC as

 

'Mary Chan does not qualify to be a Household Member. Please add this person as a Joint Sponsor, and submit all of their financial documents under their own name. Visit https://www.uscis.gov/i-864 and submit Form I-864. FINANCIAL SPONSORSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES: Financial sponsors, joint sponsors, and applicants should be aware of responsibilities when signing an I-864 and the consequences for a sponsored immigrant's acceptance of federal means-tested public benefits. For more information visit https://nvc.state.gov/aos.'

 

*My husband lives and works in Hong Kong, his salary income hit the requirement but he do not works and  lives in US for nearly 10 years

*His mother lives and works as part time job in US

*My husband and my part are all accepted

*Our (husband, her mother and me) asset meet the requirement for the 48 Contiguous States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands: 3ppl $28,787-10700*5=18,787

 

Question

As his mother needs to be change from household member to joint member for my application, if her salary income is USD10700 per year only, and she is already 65 years old, i do not think she can pass the review by NVC herself?  Or the NVC will count for my husband, his mother and my  salary and all the current assets together that my case can be accept by NVC?

 

His mother supported me mainly the living address in US

My husband supported me mainly for the income and current assets

 

Is that NVC will count all these things together or NVC will count separately for my sponsor from them? 

 

Thank you. 

 

Cammy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

She is obviously not a household member, nor does she appear to be an eligible joint sponsor if her salary is $10k.

 

Your husband’s foreign income cannot be used to sponsor you if it will not continue when he moves back to the US.

 

If he has another eligible joint sponsor, he can try that.  Otherwise, if you want to immigrate he will need to return to the US and get a job first.

[SteveInBostonI130 3,451]

Your husband is the primary sponsor.  His current income is $0, because he does not have any US based income.

 

Your MIL's current income is $10,700, as you stated. She does not qualify to sponsor you as a joint sponsor.

 

You have 3 options:

1. Get a qualifying joint sponsor (other family, close friend?)

 

2.  Try to qualify based on assets.  You and your husband will need 3x the 125% poverty limit for your household size (which I assume is 2).  Savings or bond or stocks or some other asset can can be quicky liquidated.

 

3. Your husband to get a job with US based income.  He may need to travel to the US without you initially to get this accomplished.

 

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[pushbrk 12,883]

22 hours ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

Your husband is the primary sponsor.  His current income is $0, because he does not have any US based income.

 

Your MIL's current income is $10,700, as you stated. She does not qualify to sponsor you as a joint sponsor.

 

You have 3 options:

1. Get a qualifying joint sponsor (other family, close friend?)

 

2.  Try to qualify based on assets.  You and your husband will need 3x the 125% poverty limit for your household size (which I assume is 2).  Savings or bond or stocks or some other asset can can be quicky liquidated.

 

3. Your husband to get a job with US based income.  He may need to travel to the US without you initially to get this accomplished.

 

Number 2 is probably the key.  The OP indicates there are combined assets to use.  If the petitioner and beneficiary have sufficient assets between them, that will do nicely.  If the mother has enough assets on her own, that will do nicely, but the petitioner cannot combine assets with his mother to qualify.

 

If number 2 won''t work, then options 1 or 3 are what they have left as a way forward.  I'm guessing since NVC suggested the mother be submitted as a joint sponsor, that her assets are sufficient, but that's speculation.

[cammykam 0]

 

46 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Number 2 is probably the key.  The OP indicates there are combined assets to use.  If the petitioner and beneficiary have sufficient assets between them, that will do nicely.  If the mother has enough assets on her own, that will do nicely, but the petitioner cannot combine assets with his mother to qualify.

 

If number 2 won''t work, then options 1 or 3 are what they have left as a way forward.  I'm guessing since NVC suggested the mother be submitted as a joint sponsor, that her assets are sufficient, but that's speculation.

Thanks very much.  

If my husband and me have sufficient assets (over 40% from the US required), can we upload a letter to NVC through the part of joint sponsor submission  which NVC ask us to do so?  As we want to cancel his MIL for our joint sponsor because her assets are not sufficient. 
 

Can we write as she is retired in June 2022 and her assets are not sufficient?  Are those reasons can support for this case of the cancellation for her joint sponsor?  
 

If it is works, hopefully my case will send to HK Consulate?  
 

 

If number 2 won''t work, then options 1 or 3 are what they have left as a way forward.  I'm guessing since NVC suggested the mother be submitted as a joint sponsor, that her assets are sufficient, but that's speculation.

[pushbrk 12,883]

9 minutes ago, cammykam said:

 

Thanks very much.  

If my husband and me have sufficient assets (over 40% from the US required), can we upload a letter to NVC through the part of joint sponsor submission  which NVC ask us to do so?  As we want to cancel his MIL for our joint sponsor because her assets are not sufficient. 
 

 

Can we write as she is retired in June 2022 and her assets are not sufficient?  Are those reasons can support for this case of the cancellation for her joint sponsor?  
 

If it is works, hopefully my case will send to HK Consulate?  
 

 

If number 2 won''t work, then options 1 or 3 are what they have left as a way forward.  I'm guessing since NVC suggested the mother be submitted as a joint sponsor, that her assets are sufficient, but that's speculation.

You don't need a reason to withdraw the household member.  I would delete all your financials if possible and replace them with a new I-864 based on your combined assets.  Not sure where you get "over 40% from US required" as that is not "a thing".  The assets need to be liquid and documented, which are both explained in the I-864 instructions.

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You don't need a reason to withdraw the household member.  I would delete all your financials if possible and replace them with a new I-864 based on your combined assets.  Not sure where you get "over 40% from US required" as that is not "a thing".  The assets need to be liquid and documented, which are both explained in the I-864 instructions.

As the review note 

HIS MIL does not qualify to be a Household Member. Please add this person as a Joint Sponsor, and submit all of their financial documents under their own name. Visit https://www.uscis.gov/i-864 and submit Form I-864. FINANCIAL SPONSORSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES: Financial sponsors, joint sponsors, and applicants should be aware of responsibilities when signing an I-864 and the consequences for a sponsored immigrant's acceptance of federal means-tested public benefits. For more information visit https://nvc.state.gov/aos.

NVC already delete the household member of his MIL, but the require us submit the joint sponsor of his MIL.  

if I haven’t submit the documents, will they to continue to process my case?  Or what things I can do for that?  

 

[pushbrk 12,883]

24 minutes ago, cammykam said:

 

 

You don't need a reason to withdraw the household member.  I would delete all your financials if possible and replace them with a new I-864 based on your combined assets.  Not sure where you get "over 40% from US required" as that is not "a thing".  The assets need to be liquid and documented, which are both explained in the I-864 instructions.

As the review note 

HIS MIL does not qualify to be a Household Member. Please add this person as a Joint Sponsor, and submit all of their financial documents under their own name. Visit https://www.uscis.gov/i-864 and submit Form I-864. FINANCIAL SPONSORSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES: Financial sponsors, joint sponsors, and applicants should be aware of responsibilities when signing an I-864 and the consequences for a sponsored immigrant's acceptance of federal means-tested public benefits. For more information visit https://nvc.state.gov/aos.

NVC already delete the household member of his MIL, but the require us submit the joint sponsor of his MIL.  

if I haven’t submit the documents, will they to continue to process my case?  Or what things I can do for that?  

 

 

If you follow my advice and your assets qualify, then yes, they will continue your case.  Your mother doesn't qualify as joint sponsor, so no reason to submit her as one.

[cammykam 0]

As NVC required me to re-submit his MIL in I-864, but i will not as her assets and salary don't reach the requirements.  That means I will not re-submit his MIL as joint sponsor to follow the NVC requested from the review note.  

 

Can I need to re-submit the I-864 form of my husband(Petitioner) again as his part is already accept by NVC?   As I am not sure the NVC will review my case if I haven't re-submit any documents to them  

 

And do I (principal application) need to submit I-864 also?  

Many thanks.  

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4 hours ago, cammykam said:

As NVC required me to re-submit his MIL in I-864, but i will not as her assets and salary don't reach the requirements.  That means I will not re-submit his MIL as joint sponsor to follow the NVC requested from the review note.  

 

Can I need to re-submit the I-864 form of my husband(Petitioner) again as his part is already accept by NVC?   As I am not sure the NVC will review my case if I haven't re-submit any documents to them  

 

And do I (principal application) need to submit I-864 also?  

Many thanks.  

 

[pushbrk 12,883]

5 hours ago, cammykam said:

As NVC required me to re-submit his MIL in I-864, but i will not as her assets and salary don't reach the requirements.  That means I will not re-submit his MIL as joint sponsor to follow the NVC requested from the review note.  

 

Can I need to re-submit the I-864 form of my husband(Petitioner) again as his part is already accept by NVC?   As I am not sure the NVC will review my case if I haven't re-submit any documents to them  

 

And do I (principal application) need to submit I-864 also?  

Many thanks.  

I already answered this.  Maybe you need somebody else to express the same opinion.  

 

[cammykam 0]

As I cannot delete the petitioner part that NVC already accepted.  

The question is can I re-submit the petitioner I-864 again with the update details at the joint sponsor part instead of the petitioner part accepted by NVC shown on the picture? 
 

Also, do I need to upload a letter to explain why I need to re-submit again for my petitioner part in joint sponsor part.  
 

m thanks

Cammy

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On 7/11/2022 at 9:54 AM, cammykam said:

The AOS that I've been submitted are the principle petitioner(husband) with(I-864) and the household member(MIL) with I864A.  And the part of I-864 is accepted by NVC. 

My husband and me are not live in US and MIL is living in US so I know we submitted with the wrong I-864A for MIL.  After the review of NVC, I've a message came back which ask me to change the MIL in joint sponsor instead of household member. 

Unfortunately, if MIL change to joint sponsor, she is not qualify as a joint sponsor because of her income and current assets does not meet the require from them.  Therefore, we want to withdraw her from my case.  

 

My plan are upload a withdrawal letter for MIL and the I-864 again of my husband. 

 

My questions are

1. The withdrawal letter can be written from MIL or me? 

2.  About the update I-864, as the NVC is accepted with the one that i submit in March 2022, can I re-submit the same I-864 at this time and just change the part with the household member inside the form? (Household member from 3ppl to 2ppl)

3.  Any letter sample that I can have a look for a reference?

 

Many thanks

 

 

 

[pushbrk 12,883]

Same reply.  I already advised  you on this, but you keep asking.  My further advice is to take a clue from the fact nobody is contradicting me and get on with it.