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Hello US Naturalization gurus,

I recently got my K1 beneficiary to the US for marriage, and we are planning/working on the AOS route.

Looking ahead to the requirements for Naturalization for spouses of US citizens, I'm trying to understand the continuous residence and physical presence requirement?

https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/continuous-residence-and-physical-presence-requirements-for-naturalization

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title8-section1430&num=0&edition=prelim

 

When does the 3-years of continuous residence and physical presence start for the spouse of the US citizen? From the marriage date? From the K1 entry date? From the AOS application date? From AOS approval date?

 

Would the time traveling abroad internationally with Advanced Parole while waiting for the AOS interview and AOS approval NOT affect the continuous residence and physical presence regardless since the applicant doesn't have the green card yet, and will the time will only start after the green card?

 

If there is a delay to the AOS process, does that count against the continuous residence and physical presence since time starts with the green card? Or would the delay just be part of the "time served" since it starts counting from the AOS application date?

 

If there is a delay to the AOS process say for like 3 years or more to get the green card, can we apply for the Naturalization without having to apply for the Removal Of Condition?

 

Thanks in advanced for any response.

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23 minutes ago, EatBulaga said:

there is a delay to the AOS process say for like 3 years or more to get the green card, can we apply for the Naturalization without having to apply for the Removal Of Condition?

If AOS is delayed by that much that it gets approved past your 2 year anniversary, 10 year GC will be issued so ROC won't be required.

 

3 yr rule for naturalization applies after AOS is approved not before.

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Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

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Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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1 hour ago, EatBulaga said:

Hello US Naturalization gurus,

I recently got my K1 beneficiary to the US for marriage, and we are planning/working on the AOS route.

Looking ahead to the requirements for Naturalization for spouses of US citizens, I'm trying to understand the continuous residence and physical presence requirement?

https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/continuous-residence-and-physical-presence-requirements-for-naturalization

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title8-section1430&num=0&edition=prelim

 

When does the 3-years of continuous residence and physical presence start for the spouse of the US citizen? From the marriage date? From the K1 entry date? From the AOS application date? From AOS approval date?

 

Would the time traveling abroad internationally with Advanced Parole while waiting for the AOS interview and AOS approval NOT affect the continuous residence and physical presence regardless since the applicant doesn't have the green card yet, and will the time will only start after the green card?

 

If there is a delay to the AOS process, does that count against the continuous residence and physical presence since time starts with the green card? Or would the delay just be part of the "time served" since it starts counting from the AOS application date?

 

If there is a delay to the AOS process say for like 3 years or more to get the green card, can we apply for the Naturalization without having to apply for the Removal Of Condition?

 

Thanks in advanced for any response.

For the spouse of a US citizen to apply,  both of these must be true:

1.  Married to US citizen for 3 years.

2.  Green Card holder for 3 years.

For a K-1 entrant, #2 starts on the day the Adjustment of Status is approved.

 

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29 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

For the spouse of a US citizen to apply,  both of these must be true:

1.  Married to US citizen for 3 years.

2.  Green Card holder for 3 years.

For a K-1 entrant, #2 starts on the day the Adjustment of Status is approved.

 

So the time waiting for the AOS in the US does not build residence or presence.  

And traveling abroad internationally with Advanced Parole while waiting for the AOS interview and AOS approval has no effect on the continuous residence and physical presence since the applicant does not have the green card yet?

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1 hour ago, EatBulaga said:

So the time waiting for the AOS in the US does not build residence or presence.  

And traveling abroad internationally with Advanced Parole while waiting for the AOS interview and AOS approval has no effect on the continuous residence and physical presence since the applicant does not have the green card yet?

 Anything before your got green card doesn’t count 

1 hour ago, MK9353 said:

What to mention on the short trips outside of the US in last 5 years when you are in the US from last 3 years only?

Just 3 years then. 5 years = because most people can only apply for citizenship on 5 years rule 

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11 hours ago, EatBulaga said:

So the time waiting for the AOS in the US does not build residence or presence.  

And traveling abroad internationally with Advanced Parole while waiting for the AOS interview and AOS approval has no effect on the continuous residence and physical presence since the applicant does not have the green card yet?

Doesn’t count toward qualification toward your own naturalization.  
 

It does count in one other important way though: if you have a child that is born outside the USA, 5 years of physical presence in the USA whether as a citizen, green card holder, or other wise satisfied the physical presence required needed to coney automatic citizenship your child:

 

* if all 5 years of physical presence were before your child is born abroad then citizenship is from date of the child’s birth (assuming other conditions have been met)

 

* the there are 5 years of physical presence but they weren’t all before the child is born, if you are raising the child outside the USA, you can file N-600K to get the child expedited naturalization prior to reaching age 18. 

 

 

 

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A hijack post and multiple replies have been split from this thread into this one:

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/785670-file-rejected-split-topic/page/2/

 

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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