Request For Evidence - I-751

[Kez/JWolf 6]

You came to the forum asking for help and advise..... it was given..... you did not like what you were being told.... you then attacked the people who were trying to help you....

You say "Anybody with common sense will understand" well if we have all learnt one thing it is that with USCIS common sense does not play any part in the immigration process...

You think you now have enough evidence "Being that I'm young, (yes, Jewel) they'll understand" well they make no allowances for age either young or older.... we all have to supply the same evidence.... But of course you being young know better than those of us who have been around a bit and have learned that sometimes we can be wrong and that we do need to listen to other.....

Well good Luck

Kez

Sigh. I did not like what was being told? I simply listened and applied what was applicable. I can't be force to send something that I don't have I wonder why that's so hard to understand. Why isn't anybod telling this person they're in trouble:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=68499

I wonder what makes her evidence so special that I'm lacking. Hm. Whatever though.

Documents with various dates, showing cohabitation during the past two years:

-TX DL of me and my wife, showing identical address

-Joint Tax returns

-Retirement plan and health and term life insurance through my job, showing my wife as beneficiary

-Joint bank account

-Joint car insurance

-Mail adressed to both of us

-Joint 'Sam's Club' account

All the things in bold.... go a long way.... but like you say you know best....

Kez

[Cassie 8]

You came to the forum asking for help and advise..... it was given..... you did not like what you were being told.... you then attacked the people who were trying to help you....

You say "Anybody with common sense will understand" well if we have all learnt one thing it is that with USCIS common sense does not play any part in the immigration process...

You think you now have enough evidence "Being that I'm young, (yes, Jewel) they'll understand" well they make no allowances for age either young or older.... we all have to supply the same evidence.... But of course you being young know better than those of us who have been around a bit and have learned that sometimes we can be wrong and that we do need to listen to other.....

Well good Luck

Kez

Sigh. I did not like what was being told? I simply listened and applied what was applicable. I can't be force to send something that I don't have I wonder why that’s so hard to understand. Why isn't anybod telling this person they're in trouble:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=68499

I wonder what makes her evidence so special that I'm lacking. Hm. Whatever though.

Because if you read through the post, Silvanski (who is male, btw) made it clear that his initial list was just that -- initial. And people (like Tweety) did caution him that his evidence pile was on the light side.

IMHO, your new pile of evidence is still too small. But you do what you think is best.

[Yodrak 7]

T&M,

If you'd given the information about how little evidence you initially provided this thread might have had a different tone. It's quite clear now why you got the RFE.

I don't know whether or not what you now plan to provide will satisfy the particular case officer who is processing your application or not, but I'm not so pessimistic as many posters. It's a dramatic improvement over what you originally provided.

I would add to your letter, following each item listed, what your purpose is in providing that item. E.g., you said in one post that the purpose of the State ID is to show same address - say so. And what document are you providing to compare the address on the ID with? In short, make it easy for the case officer to get the point that you want to make - don't leave them guessing, they may guess wrong or miss the point altogether.

I think lucyrich made a nice analysis of the situation. Many other posters should stick to the issue of evidence of marital life and keep their personal judgements on your life choices to themselves.

Yodrak

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This first time of filed I-751 form I enclosed: Two letters from friends; Bank Statements. That's it.

Next week I'm going to submit: explanation letter, notarize letter from my parents saying we live at this current address, copy of the tax statement for 2006 showing we filled as a married couple,

letter form an elder saying he sees us attending bible instructing meetings every week, copies of her State ID and my DL, card signature from the Bank showing joint ownership on checking and saving accounts, copy of the title of our car showing joint ownership and Arizona State Retirement. I might throw in some cards.

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Is this letter good enough to please the officer?

Dear USCIS examiner:

Enclosed is some of the evidence you requested. Not all the information you requested applies to my wife and I. We are all happily living together debt free and request that this petition be accepted for removal of conditions on the residence of my wife. We are currently living with my parents so we don't pay rent, utility bills or have a house mortgage. We have no loans or insurance policies. Medical treatment is cheaper in Mexico so that's why we have no medical insurance. My wife doesn't know how to drive so that's why there's no joint car insurance. A Birth Certificate for a child is not available because there are no children. Basically, we are just living a peaceful, simple live.

Enclosed also please find the following documents to verify the status of our marriage and ongoing relationship:

• A notarize letter from my parents saying we live at this current address

• Copy of the tax statement for 2006 showing she filed as a married person

• Library card

• State ID

• Letter form the Bank showing joint ownership

• Arizona State Retirement showing me as the beneficiary.

You may feel free to inquire at any of the sources of enclosed documentation for validity of their statements, and you are always welcome to visit our home should you ever desire to do so. Please advise me if you have any further questions or problems related to this petition.

Sincerely,

US citizen spouse

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[diadromous mermaid 36]

True, and to address T&M's question with respect to why individuals were not offering such a bleek view of silvanski's submission, I think it is also important to bear in mind that once a file has been viewed as deficient (ergo the RFE) whether we'd like to think it or not, there's a strong possibility that the human element can also impact a case. After all, the AO has already determined that he or she is not quite satisfied to be able to approve absent more documentation. It's hard as human to blank out a "perception" when reviewing the file once again.

T&M,

If you'd given the information about how little evidence you initially provided this thread might have had a different tone. It's quite clear now why you got the RFE.

I don't know whether or not what you now plan to provide will satisfy the particular case officer who is processing your application or not, but I'm not so pessimistic as many posters. It's a dramatic improvement over what you originally provided.

I would add to your letter, following each item listed, what your purpose is in providing that item. E.g., you said in one post that the purpose of the State ID is to show same address - say so. And what document are you providing to compare the address on the ID with? In short, make it easy for the case officer to get the point that you want to make - don't leave them guessing, they may guess wrong or miss the point altogether.

I think lucyrich made a nice analysis of the situation. Many other posters should stick to the issue of evidence of marital life and keep their personal judgements on your life choices to themselves.

Yodrak

.....

This first time of filed I-751 form I enclosed: Two letters from friends; Bank Statements. That's it.

Next week I'm going to submit: explanation letter, notarize letter from my parents saying we live at this current address, copy of the tax statement for 2006 showing we filled as a married couple,

letter form an elder saying he sees us attending bible instructing meetings every week, copies of her State ID and my DL, card signature from the Bank showing joint ownership on checking and saving accounts, copy of the title of our car showing joint ownership and Arizona State Retirement. I might throw in some cards.

.....

Is this letter good enough to please the officer?

Dear USCIS examiner:

Enclosed is some of the evidence you requested. Not all the information you requested applies to my wife and I. We are all happily living together debt free and request that this petition be accepted for removal of conditions on the residence of my wife. We are currently living with my parents so we don't pay rent, utility bills or have a house mortgage. We have no loans or insurance policies. Medical treatment is cheaper in Mexico so that's why we have no medical insurance. My wife doesn't know how to drive so that's why there's no joint car insurance. A Birth Certificate for a child is not available because there are no children. Basically, we are just living a peaceful, simple live.

Enclosed also please find the following documents to verify the status of our marriage and ongoing relationship:

• A notarize letter from my parents saying we live at this current address

• Copy of the tax statement for 2006 showing she filed as a married person

• Library card

• State ID

• Letter form the Bank showing joint ownership

• Arizona State Retirement showing me as the beneficiary.

You may feel free to inquire at any of the sources of enclosed documentation for validity of their statements, and you are always welcome to visit our home should you ever desire to do so. Please advise me if you have any further questions or problems related to this petition.

Sincerely,

US citizen spouse

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[Yodrak 7]

diadromous mermaid,

That's mindset that a case officer might have.

On the other hand, T&M's original submission contained essentially zilch in the way of evidence. Something being so much better than nothing, the additional evidence that T&M now offers is such a major improvement that it might well be deemed satisfactory.

It will be interesting to learn what happens next.

Yodrak

.... I think it is also important to bear in mind that once a file has been viewed as deficient (ergo the RFE) whether we'd like to think it or not, there's a strong possibility that the human element can also impact a case. After all, the AO has already determined that he or she is not quite satisfied to be able to approve absent more documentation. It's hard as human to blank out a "perception" when reviewing the file once again.