18 children, 3 adults killed in Texas elementary school shooting

[LIBrty4all 3,754]

16 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Absolutely.  There are plenty of great training resources.....I am shocked that these teacher unions haven't screaming for this.....I think they are, as a whole, part of the faction who refuse to accept reality.  

I agree with you.  Sad that there still exist schools without armed security, yet my local grocer has one (sometimes two).

[LIBrty4all 3,754]

8 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

As a retired Registered Nurse with experience in Adolescent Psych and Adult Psych, I can tell you that it is an inexact science.....for the very reason you stated.  There is a lot of subjectivity in that area of medicine. 

Of course you're right.  That was my point to BJ (or anyone willing to see the man behind the curtain)... it's purt near impossible to begin to understand.  It would likely take months or years, talking to a WILLING person, to unravel the ball of yarn behind these types of murderers.

[Fuerteventura 29]

The US has had 57 times as many school shootings as the other major industrialized nations 

 

The definition: The parameters we followed in this count 

• Shooting must involve at least one person being shot (not including the shooter)
• Shooting must occur on school grounds
• We included gang violence, fights and domestic violence (but our count is NOT limited to those categories)
• We included grades Kindergarten through college/university level as well as vocational schools
• We included accidental discharge of a firearm as long as the first two parameters are met

The analysis: For US stats, CNN reviewed media reports and a variety of databases including those from the Gun Violence Archive and Northwestern Institute on Complex Systems. For international stats, we looked at local and national media reports.

The caveat: Reporting on non-fatal school shootings is not always available. There may be additional school shootings with injuries that did not make it into the newspaper or digital publications, and therefore aren’t counted in databases that rely on media reports. This is true for shootings in the US and elsewhere.

What we found:

There have been at least 288 school shootings in the United States since January 1, 2009.

That’s 57 times as many shootings as the other six G7 countries combined.

Broadening out the list

Next, we wanted to broaden our list out to include some countries that were mentioned in a few of the viral posts that were going around this weekend.

 

In some of the incidents, the casualty count is very high (the Peshawar siege; the Kenya attack). But when it comes to the frequency of attacks, the US still leads by a wide margin.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/us/school-shooting-us-versus-world-trnd/index.html

 

[Crazy Cat 42,040]

Comparing the US statistics to other countries serves no helpful purpose, offers no WORKABLE solutions.  Again, a certain faction refuses to accept reality.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Fuerteventura 29]

2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Comparing the US statistics to other countries serves no helpful purpose, offers no WORKABLE solutions.  Again, a certain faction refuses to accept reality.

Reality: school shootings are a problem  in the US

Reality: it doesn't appear to be an issue in other countries

Reality: no solution appears to be working in the US yet

[Crazy Cat 42,040]

3 minutes ago, Fuerteventura said:

Reality: school shootings are a problem  in the US

Reality: it doesn't appear to be an issue in other countries

Reality: no solution appears to be working in the US yet

Train and arm teachers------ Logical, reasonable, and PRUDENT!  It is the ONLY workable solution....

Is it really so hard to understand? 

Edited May 25, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Dashinka 24,718]

4 minutes ago, Fuerteventura said:

Reality: school shootings are a problem  in the US

Reality: it doesn't appear to be an issue in other countries

Reality: no solution appears to be working in the US yet

It is a surprise there are so many people wanting to come to the US.

[Crazy Cat 42,040]

6 minutes ago, Fuerteventura said:

Reality: no solution appears to be working in the US yet

It is clear that a certain union is blocking the solution.  They are endangering the lives of children.

[LIBrty4all 3,754]

Dude used to drive around shooting people with BB guns.  No way anyone could have seen this coming...

 

https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/what-we-know-so-far-about-salvador-ramos-the-suspected-texas-school-shooter/ 

[Mike E 11,742]

36 minutes ago, Fuerteventura said:

Reality: school shootings are a problem  in the US

Reality: it doesn't appear to be an issue in other countries

How can something be a reality when juxtaposed with “appear”. Below I will explain that school shootings are a problem outside the USA. 

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Reality: no solution appears to be working in the US yet

This is a building at the university of Yangon:

 

 

it needs a paint job badly. It hasn’t been painted.  The official reason is that it is bad luck. It’s bad luck because  hundreds of students were killed in a mass school shooting near this building. The shooters were paid soldiers of junta.  The students  were protesting. 
 

The junta continues to slaughter unarmed  civilians the thousands since the February 1, 2021  coup.  
 

These people are unarmed. They don’t want to be unarmed. After 60 years of this garbage, and useless non violent protest, they want to shoot back. And the few that have a firearm do. 
 

No country is willing to send them $40B in arms. No country recognizes their right to self determination to overthrow the illegal junta that deposed an elected government, and so the Burmese diaspora is limited in how much ammo, rifles, and rocket launchers it can send. 
 

If Burmese were armed to extent Americans are, the junta would fold in days. 

 

No country is going to liberate Americans from tyrants. 
 

Easily billions of people in the world  are under tyrants. 
 

I wasn’t born here. I decided to stay here. I accept and embrace 2A. 
 

2A stays.  
 

And no i don’t own a firearm. I don’t need to.  Enough other Americans do.  

Edited May 25, 2022 by Mike E

[Crazy Cat 42,040]

This is what I mean by emotional responses rather than anything useful from Biden. 

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/05/25/elite-border-patrol-agent-credited-with-putting-down-uvalde-shooter-n2607764?fbclid=IwAR2a0YxDRqu4yslvjQTHBmHFbxsDHlyFwIPUmASu6vGCTHJ8Lkqi85S6MnQ

 

"Rather than praising the courage of agents who raced into the school without backup, Biden called for "courage" among lawmakers to "stand up to the gun lobby" without saying what, if any, action by Congress could have prevented Tuesday's tragedy."

Edited May 25, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[MarJhi 965]

37 minutes ago, Fuerteventura said:

Reality: school shootings are a problem  in the US

Reality: it doesn't appear to be an issue in other countries

Reality: no solution appears to be working in the US yet

Cool, 

Now let's find some research on "violence" in schools around the world, not just shootings. 

[yuna628 9,697]

31 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

Dude used to drive around shooting people with BB guns.  No way anyone could have seen this coming...

 

https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/what-we-know-so-far-about-salvador-ramos-the-suspected-texas-school-shooter/ 

Also had rage issues, self harm, abusive..... ugh. His parents are alive, I'd like to know where their responsibility in all this is? Also grandpa is a convicted felon, and claims he had no idea there were guns in the house.... 

[Crazy Cat 42,040]

3 hours ago, yuna628 said:

but teachers are there to focus on teaching imo

Agree....until an emergency situation arises.  Should teachers learn CPR?   I think you fail to give teacher the credit they deserve.  I think most can multi-task.  

[TBoneTX 45,873]

6 hours ago, B_J said:

I have family in Uvalde. We've been there many times.

Been to Uvalde several times.

6 hours ago, B_J said:

Her husband has a nephew who did not survive.

May he, they, and you be comforted among all who mourn.