Denial in first F1 Interview

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Never say never but I hope you have a Plan B on the assumption you are not granted a US Visa.

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2 hours ago, Michael98 said:

I just saw questions on Quora related to the F-1 Visa interview and lots of people mentioned that they got accepted in their second or third attempt. 

How many of those people had been previously denied entry into the US? 

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On 5/21/2022 at 2:19 AM, aaron2020 said:

Sorry that it's not clear to you why you are not eligible for a student visa.  It's clear to us and we have tried to explain it to you.

Your interpretation that your comment was taken out of context.  You don't seem to understand that your comment mattered.  And it wasn't just one statement.  You signed a legal document. Did you forget that?

Germany is incredibly hard to enter.  I can assure you of that.  I have a niece that had to learn German in order to immigrate there to live with her German husband.  The US does not require anyone to know English in order to immigrate to the US through a family member.  Life experience. 

Don't presume that you know your country's immigration laws.  Most Americans don't know US immigration laws. 

We've seen people like you who think that the only way to learn something is to be denied a visa to the US.  You've could have done some research beforehand and learned from others who went before you - old people.  

Good luck.  Do what you think is best for you.  

Are you an engineer?  You sound like one.  

+1 A Family member had to study German when she moved to Germany with her spouse. That is immigration. 

 

Believe it or not. For those needing a Schengen visa,  Germany will only give you the amount of days you list on your itinerary. 

Another family member went to a conference in Germany and was only allowed into Europe for 12 days. Many of his friends around Europe asked him to visit when the conference was over but he couldn't. 

 

5 hours ago, Michael98 said:

I already have an appointment with an attorney from the U.S. on Tuesday. I'll look if he can prepare sth like that and then try again. 

And again, I acknowledged all your comments and I see what I did wrong and how it is just the law that I most likely won't be able to study in the U.S.

 

Still, I feel misunderstood and not guilty of the accused intention. My main intention is getting the degree at the University where I had a really valuable time last Fall. I just enjoyed it so much and that is my dream. Being able to stay at my GF's place would be a good bonus. Believe it or not, our intention is to go to Germany together because our programs would end simultaneously. She visited me already here and really liked it so that is our plan. And that is mainly why I feel like I deserve this VISA. I was in that homeland security office for 4 hours straight, alone with 3-4 officers in the same room. I was traveling for 14+ hours and getting pressured into saying my statements in a different context under oath. When I asked to rewatch the video tape because I felt I did not say it the way the officer reworded it, he was just shaking his head and telling me that I would miss my flight back if we don't hurry up. It would just be nice if the human side had a bigger influence here. 

No one deserves a visa. 

Also, if you plan on moving to Germany together. I suggest your girlfriend start studying German STAT. 

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Hello guys,

 

i have another question so I hope someone will still reply. 
Would having an offer for a marketing position at a medium sized company after my degree finished present a strong tie? Meaning, that I would leave the US right after finishing the program to start my job

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Never seen a company hold a position open for someone for 4 years or however many years your degree is gonna take

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2 hours ago, Timona said:

Never seen a company hold a position open for someone for 4 years or however many years your degree is gonna take

I'll be finished after two  years

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3 hours ago, Michael98 said:

Hello guys,

 

i have another question so I hope someone will still reply. 
Would having an offer for a marketing position at a medium sized company after my degree finished present a strong tie? Meaning, that I would leave the US right after finishing the program to start my job

If it’s a solid offer that you’ve accepted  - especially a known company and not, say, your uncle’s mom-and-pop store - that would probably help. (It would help even more if the company was paying for the masters so that you had a contractual obligation to return.) if it’s just an offer that’s an “option”, maybe not so much. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Michael98 said:

I'll be finished after two  years

That is a very long time for a job position to stay open.  Why would a company do that? 

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There's one other aspect of your situation that hasn't been mentioned. Assuming you are issued a visa (a highly unlikely assumption, IMO), a visa is nothing more than permission to travel to the US border and apply for entry. It is always a decision of the immigration officer at the Port of Entry as to whether you are admitted into the United States or not. If I understood your posts, you spent a Fall semester in the US, left after your J-1 program had ended to spend holidays at home, re-entered the US (January?) using your J-1 visa because it was still under the "grace period" for departing the US (which you shouldn't really have been allowed to do, since you had already completed your J-1 and departed the US), left the US (January or February?), and a short time after (March) trIed to re-enter on ESTA.  If that's correct, in at least seven months you spent all but a few days/weeks in the US and were trying to return again.  Add to that the very recent decision by a fellow CBP officer and the signed statement showing why you were recently denied entry, it would not be easy to overcome all this at the Port of Entry. Even with a visa you could well be denied entry into the US.

Edited May 24, 2022 by jan22

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7 minutes ago, jan22 said:

There's one other aspect of your situation that hasn't been mentioned. Assuming you are issued a visa (a highly unlikely assumption, IMO), a visa is nothing more than permission to travel to the US border and apply for entry. It is always a decision of the immigration officer at the Port of Entry as to whether you are admitted into the United States or not. If I understood your posts, you spent a Fall semester in the US, left after your J-1 program had ended to spend holidays at home, re-entered the US (January?) using your J-1 visa because it was still under the "grace period" for departing the US (which you shouldn't really have been allowed to do, since you had already completed your J-1 and departed the US), left the US (January or February?), and a short time after (March) trIed to re-enter on ESTA.  If that's correct, in at least seven months you spent all but a few days/weeks in the US and were trying to return again.  Add to that the very recent decision by a fellow CBP officer and the signed statement showing why you were recently denied entry, it would not be easy to overcome all this at the Port of Entry. Even with a visa you could well be denied entry into the US.

Yeah I already thought about that. But with a visa an officer at the border can not just deny you, it has to go through a judge. 
 

also I left during my J1 and re-entered when it was still active. My program didnt end on paper yet. Spent the grace period and left by end of January. Then I applied for esta and travelled at 30th of march again. 

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9 minutes ago, Michael98 said:

Yeah I already thought about that. But with a visa an officer at the border can not just deny you, it has to go through a judge. 

Wrong....That is incorrect..........CBP has FULL authority to deny any entry at the border.....and they need only suspicion that your visa was incorrectly issued...or you intend to violate the conditions of that visa..

 

Exactly where did you get this information?

Edited May 24, 2022 by Crazy Cat

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First get your visa..............

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2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

That is 100% incorrect..........CBP has FULL authority to deny any entry at the border.....and they need only suspicion.

That’s what they told me at CBP😅

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6 minutes ago, Michael98 said:

That’s what they told me at CBP😅

Whoever told you that is wrong.

Edited May 24, 2022 by Crazy Cat

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1 hour ago, jan22 said:

re-entered the US (January?) using your J-1 visa because it was still under the "grace period" for departing the US (which you shouldn't really have been allowed to do, since you had already completed your J-1 and departed the US), left the US (January or February?), and a short time after (March) trIed to re-enter on ESTA. 

I’d wondered about that too, i thought the grace period was only till you leave, not to allow you to leave and return, wonder if that was part of the reason for the denial on ESTA.