Denial in first F1 Interview

[Mixel96 12]

2 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

I am here in VJ a lot. And I mean a lot. I still have to read one of those cases.

 

No. Once denied, always denied for an F1.

 

Not really. Why do you think people build their cases prior to the interview then?

I am honestly just referring from my research on Quora earlier. I read multiple threads about multiple f1-applications that in the end worked out. That’s what got my hopes up a little.

[Rocio0010 5,580]

1 minute ago, Michael98 said:

The officer at the embassy today seemed to be at least thinking about providing me the visa.

What makes you think that when, in the end, you were denied?

 

1 minute ago, Michael98 said:

I just need to find a better way to clear out the alleged immigration intent.

That's a hard one. 

You really seem desperate. Plenty of people here have told you to forget about the F1, and you're still insisting on that idea. Maye channel that energy into thinking if you want to pursue a spousal visa.

[Crazy Cat 41,985]

34 minutes ago, Michael98 said:

I want to consult my lawyer starting next week and see what he suggests me to do. As long as I don’t feel confident in providing new circumstances I won’t reapply. 
 

do you think it would be a good idea to list the university campus as a „home adress“ while staying in the US instead of my girlfriends house? If they ask me why I changed it, I would say we broke up. 

You are going to lie to US immigration?  SERIOUSLY???????

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Mixel96 12]

Just now, Rocio0010 said:

What makes you think that when, in the end, you were denied?

 

That's a hard one. 

You really seem desperate. Plenty of people here have told you to forget about the F1, and you're still insisting on that idea. Maye channel that energy into thinking if you want to pursue a spousal visa.

Because he had a long long pause after I did explain the incident, just seemed to me as he was deciding between yes or no. 

 

If I hadn’t been in the U.S. on a J1 already i wouldn’t even bother. I did not overstay and did not work, met all the regulations. It’s just so unreal to me that one simple mistake creates this mess for me. Also there has been lots of planning and organization behind it, so it’s a tough one honestly. 

1 minute ago, Crazy Cat said:

You are going to lie to US immigration?  SERIOUSLY???????

I'm out......

I already said I won’t. Was a stupid thought. 

[Crazy Cat 41,985]

12 minutes ago, Michael98 said:

do you guys have any suggestions on how I could make another attempt to obtain my f1?

Yes.  Wait a few years.  You need a dose of reality that you have a negative US immigration record now......Your F1 interview should have done that.   US immigration assumes EVERYONE of having the intent to enter the US and stay.  You gave them a reason they could use to verify you had intent.  

Edited May 20, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Rocio0010 5,580]

1 minute ago, Michael98 said:

It’s just so unreal to me that one simple mistake creates this mess for me.

It might be a simple one for you, but not for them.

[aaron2020 11,651]

Hi,

 

Sorry.

 

A lawyer can't do anything.  A foreigner can not sue the US for a student visa.  You don't have a right to a US student visa.

 

You messed up.  The burden is on you to overcome the legal presumption that every visitor intends to immigrate to the US.  You didn't do that.  The burden is on you to show non immigrant intent upon entering the US.

 

You've been told that it's too soon.  This is what is likely to happen if you apply again now.  Imagine I work with the guy that denied you.  He's my co-worker.  I'm going to overrule him and give you a visa?  Why would I do that?  Why would I question his decision, overrule it and give you a visa?  Why do that damage to myself?  When the boss asked why did I overrule my co-worker, what is going to happen?  One of us is going to look bad.  No reason for me to give you a visa and screw one of us over.  We don't know you.  We care about our jobs.  We back each other up.  Real adult life.  

Wait a year.  Give it time.

Or file for a K-1.  

 

Best of luck.  

Edited May 20, 2022 by aaron2020

[Mixel96 12]

Okay thank you very much. 
 

I got one last question. What is your opinion on an internship ? I could probably get an offer quite easily. Would this also most likely not work out ?

 

 

[aaron2020 11,651]

1 minute ago, Michael98 said:

Okay thank you very much. 
 

I got one last question. What is your opinion on an internship ? I could probably get an offer quite easily. Would this also most likely not work out ?

 

 

You're not going to get a visa to come to the US anytime soon.

Visa shopping is not going to work.  People aren't stupid.  

 

There is an electronic record of everything you apply for.  You are so desperate.  Accept that you are not coming to the US anytime soon.  The CO told you this.  

 

You're getting advice from a bunch of old guys.  We're trying to help you young man.  

Wisdom cuz we're old.  Not telling you what to do.  Telling you what life experience has taught us.  

 

Good luck young man.  

[Crazy Cat 41,985]

6 minutes ago, Michael98 said:

Okay thank you very much. 
 

I got one last question. What is your opinion on an internship ? I could probably get an offer quite easily. Would this also most likely not work out ?

 

 

I thought you were interested ONLY in getting your masters in the US.   Now, you seem desperate.  I don't think ANY non-immigrant visa is in your future for the near term.

Edited May 20, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Mixel96 12]

I just want to make sure that I explore all possibilities. My goal is/was the master of course. And yeah, you guys are all right. Probably should’ve posted here before I went in that homeland security office 😅 

 

tough times ahead I guess 

[Crazy Cat 41,985]

5 minutes ago, Michael98 said:

I just want to make sure that I explore all possibilities.

That could be seen as Classic "Visa shopping".  Your best bet to getting inside the US is through a legitimate immigrant visa, imo. 

Edited May 20, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[milimelo 4,513]

Plenty of fully online degrees available - no F1 visa needed. 

[Redro 4,611]

9 minutes ago, Michael98 said:

I just want to make sure that I explore all possibilities. My goal is/was the master of course. And yeah, you guys are all right. Probably should’ve posted here before I went in that homeland security office 😅 

 

tough times ahead I guess 

I have a masters from the US and I didn't get in IN the US... 

You can always get your masters and convert it to a US degree... this is what I'll be doing when I move to the US in the next year or so... 

[Mixel96 12]

5 minutes ago, milimelo said:

Plenty of fully online degrees available - no F1 visa needed. 

You’re right but my individual motivation is to experience a full study in the US. I liked the environment at my university and the cultural diversity on campus. I am more of a shy  person so i want to grow further and gain experience.