Oklahoma lawmakers pass bill banning abortions after ‘fertilization’

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1 hour ago, ROK2USA said:

I don't know what FUD means... 

Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It is the reason the found fathers wrote the constitution, I guess.

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Just now, Fuerteventura said:

Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It is the reason the found fathers wrote the constitution, I guess.

WAIT WHAT? 

Can I ask for an 

explain like I'm five? 

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3 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:

WAIT WHAT? 

Can I ask for an 

explain like I'm five? 

Essentially one's fear, uncertainty or doubt they may run afoul of the law or a law.  Life is full of it.

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Just now, Dashinka said:

Essentially one's fear, uncertainty or doubt they may run afoul of the law or a law.  Life is full of it.

I am going to annoy my husband tomorrow with this question~ 

If he cant answer this question I'm calling BS.... 

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18 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:

I am going to annoy my husband tomorrow with this question~ 

If he cant answer this question I'm calling BS.... 

@Mike E I always ask my US citizen husband questions about what I read on VJ.... so I'll be asking him what FUD means.... 

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19 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:

WAIT WHAT? 

Can I ask for an 

explain like I'm five? 

Not from me, I wouldn't apply fud to our constitutional ammendments, it obviously doesn't apply to what women are experiencing. I think the GOP has been hijacked on this abortion issue. 

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Just now, Fuerteventura said:

Not from me, I wouldn't apply fud to our constitutional ammendments, it obviously doesn't apply to what women are experiencing. I think the GOP has been hijacked on this abortion issue. 

I want to know what FUD means~ 

[Mike E 11,742]

FUD was a term invented by IBM and perfected by Microsoft to discourage  customers to avoid buying from competitors. 
 

It is also used by political operatives to achieve a goal. . 
 

The argument that the constitution exists to discourage FUD from spreading lawlessness is one I had not heard of, yet would not discount. 
 

The constitution does empower me to ignore FUD though. I believe if everyone ignored FUD we would be better off. 
 

10 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:

@Mike E I always ask my US citizen husband questions about what I read on VJ.... so I'll be asking him what FUD means.... 

 

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58 minutes ago, Mike E said:

FUD was a term invented by IBM and perfected by Microsoft to discourage  customers to avoid buying from competitors. 
 

It is also used by political operatives to achieve a goal. . 
 

The argument that the constitution exists to discourage FUD from spreading lawlessness is one I had not heard of, yet would not discount. 
 

The constitution does empower me to ignore FUD though. I believe if everyone ignored FUD we would be better off. 
 

 

I wouldn't say we perfected it, but we did use it. Post DOJ settlement were given special language to not to use on any email, chat our documents. Phrases such as "drive to ground", "attack the problem" , "fight for the business" we all on the naught list. I seem to remember a beta tool that would actually review the email for offensive language before you hit send. 

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3 hours ago, Fuerteventura said:

Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It is the reason the found fathers wrote the constitution, I guess.

and i thought it had to do with elmer..............

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7 hours ago, Dashinka said:

I don't disagree on the abortion issue, I am fine with elective abortions up to birth, it is not my decision.  As to the posting, it is interesting that this does not apply when discussing vaccines.  The part "Nobody has the right to use your body against you will, even to save their life, or the life of another person."  seems to destroy the public health argument.

 

As to the OP, this law should be aborted as well, but I don't really have any plans to live in OK in the future.

Just so you know, I am against vaccine mandates.

 

And yes, there is a similarity in a way that both vaccine mandate and abortion ban tell you what to do with your body. 

 

However, NOT getting a vaccine is passive; nothing is required from a person who chooses to not get a vaccine. This person doesn't have to go to a clinic to not get a vaccine. And the person doesn't automatically loses the right to not get a vaccine in a period of 6-12-16 weeks. No additional measures (pills/inserts/etc) to prevent the need to not get a vaccine. So, there is no way you will not be able physically to not get a vaccine, it is always on the table. Argument can be made that the consequence of not getting a vaccine might be job loss. But it will not be possible to take an option to lose a job and still get an abortion. 

 

I'm actually not disagreeing with you but these are different

[Mike E 11,742]

Covid Vaccines have been  denied to people since 2020 and continue to be denied outside of the USA.   Even while thousands of doses were literally flushed down the toilet. 

 

I drove hundreds of miles to get my first dose. 
 

The 4th dose isn’t generally available to every one.  
 

The issue is exactly the same. 

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8 hours ago, ROK2USA said:

I want to know what FUD means~ 

Not sure about FU but I think the D is democrats 

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20 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Not sure about FU but I think the D is democrats 

Must make the GOP the FU part then

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