Will this work? (Merged)

[arken 4,197]

20 minutes ago, Zin-Zin said:

Is there any way to verify what the French consulate requires? I haven't seen anything saying that proof of residency is required or what adequate proof might be. 

The rejection letter from the NVC lists 3 kinds of evidence, 1 of which is sufficient to qualify for a change. Passport as proof of citizenship. 

In addition to her french pp bio page, I'd say provide evidences that she has already moved. Any passport stamps, boarding passes, itinerary, anything she has over there than ca show her residence.

[Zin-Zin 21]

1 minute ago, arken said:

In addition to her french pp bio page, I'd say provide evidences that she has already moved. Any passport stamps, boarding passes, itinerary, anything she has over there than ca show her residence.

She has a letter from her dad since we're staying at his house. But b/c we have intentions to move to the US, she hasn't reestablished much of her life here. 

Any other ideas?

[arken 4,197]

5 minutes ago, Zin-Zin said:

She has a letter from her dad since we're staying at his house. But b/c we have intentions to move to the US, she hasn't reestablished much of her life here. 

Any other ideas?

What about boarding passes/ passport stamps/itineraries? Those at least prove she went to France.

[Zin-Zin 21]

Just now, arken said:

What about boarding passes/ passport stamps/itineraries? Those at least prove she went to France.

We have one way tickets from Taiwan to France. No actual boarding passes anymore. And an exit stamp from Taiwan, but she didn't get an entry stamp b/c she's a citizen of France. 

[Zin-Zin 21]

How is this for the letter? Any feedback on how to make it better? Above the "Sir or Ma'am" I have listed the case number, our names, and our dates of birth. After my printed name, I am including my address, phone number, and email.

 

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Sir or Ma'am,
 

I would like to request my beneficiary’s interview location change to Paris due to that being her country of birth, nationality, citizenship, and current location. She has moved from her residence in Taiwan to her home country of France. Attached is a copy of the scanned biographic page of the beneficiary’s passport, a flight itinerary showing her departure from Taiwan, and a letter from her father confirming that she is currently living with him in his home in Montalies, France. In addition, please find the scanned biographic page of the petitioner’s passport.
 

Please find the current address, phone number, and email of the beneficiary below.

 

[pushbrk 13,211]

15 hours ago, ROK2USA said:

I would call NVC. They have been known to reject the correct documentation. 

 

Did you also include the address you are staying at in France ...? just reading the instructions and trying to figure out what more you can do... 

They say you should "provide a written request along with the address in the requested country and the proof of eligibility "

This is the issue.  They want evidence she is actually living in France, in addition to evidence of her citizenship.  Provide it and then carry on, is my advice to the OP.

[pushbrk 13,211]

5 hours ago, Zin-Zin said:

How is this for the letter? Any feedback on how to make it better? Above the "Sir or Ma'am" I have listed the case number, our names, and our dates of birth. After my printed name, I am including my address, phone number, and email.

 

 

Letters are not evidence.  Sometimes they work for some things, but if you can provide actual evidence of WHERE she lives, like a rental agreement of ID with the address on it, that would be much better.

[Zin-Zin 21]

On 5/11/2022 at 6:32 PM, pushbrk said:

Letters are not evidence.  Sometimes they work for some things, but if you can provide actual evidence of WHERE she lives, like a rental agreement of ID with the address on it, that would be much better.

At the moment, that's not possible. 

She has a bank statement. She has a phone number. She has Covid test results with her address on them.

Jeez...I thought she only had to be a citizen of the country. The rejection letter states is clearly: 

 

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We are unable to reassign this case to a different U.S. Embassy/Consulate General without additional information. (removed) is eligible to process in one of the following countries:

 

·          (removed) country of citizenship

·          (removed) country of residence (the address and proof of residency must be submitted.)

·          (removed) country of last residence if he or she is currently residing in the United States

 

The requested country either does not fall into one of the above categories or insufficient proof of eligibility has been furnished to enable processing in that country.

And that / makes the state.gov guidance a bit murky, but...c'mon man! 😄

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/national-visa-center/immigrant-visas-processing-general-faqs.html#ivp13

Edited May 15, 2022 by Ontarkie
edited to removed personal information

[pushbrk 13,211]

14 hours ago, Zin-Zin said:

We have one way tickets from Taiwan to France. No actual boarding passes anymore. And an exit stamp from Taiwan, but she didn't get an entry stamp b/c she's a citizen of France. 

What do you mean by "tickets"?  I haven't seen an actual paper ticket in a lot of years.

[pushbrk 13,211]

1 hour ago, Zin-Zin said:

At the moment, that's not possible. 

She has a bank statement. She has a phone number. She has Covid test results with her address on them.

Jeez...I thought she only had to be a citizen of the country. The rejection letter states is clearly: 

 

And that / makes the state.gov guidance a bit murky, but...c'mon man! 😄

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/national-visa-center/immigrant-visas-processing-general-faqs.html#ivp13

Your problem is you ignored this part.   (the address and proof of residency must be submitted.)  A COVID test with her address in France on it should do nicely.

Edited May 12, 2022 by pushbrk

[Zin-Zin 21]

1 hour ago, pushbrk said:

What do you mean by "tickets"?  I haven't seen an actual paper ticket in a lot of years.

I mean proof of purchase, and an exit stamp to support that she got on a plane headed to France. 

[Zin-Zin 21]

20 hours ago, pushbrk said:

Your problem is you ignored this part.   (the address and proof of residency must be submitted.)  A COVID test with her address in France on it should do nicely.

Well, that was exactly my point. The '/' in the guidance linked above is ambiguous. In common usage, it can mean 'and' as well as 'or,' among other things. 

The email rejection supports its meaning of 'or' by listing citizenship by itself and then also by further qualifying the 'residency' option with additional proof. Also, anecdotes here on VJ very often, but not always, show that people are changing venue simply by being a citizen of the intended country. 

Anywho, I'm going to resubmit through my Senator with as much proof of residency as we can muster along with a request to expedite. I was planning on waiting to expedite after location-change approval, but now I will do both through the NCVexpedite email as advised by the woman on the phone at the NVC.

 

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We are unable to reassign this case to a different U.S. Embassy/Consulate General without additional information. (removed) is eligible to process in one of the following countries:

 

·           (removed) country of citizenship

·          (removed) country of residence (the address and proof of residency must be submitted.)

·           (removed) country of last residence if he or she is currently residing in the United States

 

The requested country either does not fall into one of the above categories or insufficient proof of eligibility has been furnished to enable processing in that country.

 

You may resubmit your request with proof of eligibility to the National Visa Center if you wish to process at the requested U.S. Embassy/Consulate General.  Possible proof includes the following: a copy of a government issued document such as birth certificate, valid passport, valid work visa, identity card or landed immigrant card. Please submit the sufficient proof using our Public Inquiry Form at https://nvc.state.gov/inquiry.

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by Ontarkie
edited to removed personal information

[pushbrk 13,211]

10 hours ago, Zin-Zin said:

Well, that was exactly my point. The '/' in the guidance linked above is ambiguous. In common usage, it can mean 'and' as well as 'or,' among other things. 

The email rejection supports its meaning of 'or' by listing citizenship by itself and then also by further qualifying the 'residency' option with additional proof. Also, anecdotes here on VJ very often, but not always, show that people are changing venue simply by being a citizen of the intended country. 

Anywho, I'm going to resubmit through my Senator with as much proof of residency as we can muster along with a request to expedite. I was planning on waiting to expedite after location-change approval, but now I will do both through the NCVexpedite email as advised by the woman on the phone at the NVC.

 

 

Waste of typing to argue what "should be" or the language.  You understand clearly NOW what you need to do.  Giterdun.

[Redro 4,612]

17 hours ago, Zin-Zin said:

At the moment, that's not possible. 

She has a bank statement. She has a phone number. She has Covid test results with her address on them.

Jeez...I thought she only had to be a citizen of the country. The rejection letter states is clearly: 

 

And that / makes the state.gov guidance a bit murky, but...c'mon man! 😄

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/national-visa-center/immigrant-visas-processing-general-faqs.html#ivp13

I agree they aren't telling you exactly what they want in the rejection letter. But, that seems to be the case with a few RFEs. They are "copy-paste" and do not speak to your exact situation.

You need to overwhelm them with evidence! 

 

Re-reading the rejection letter they are not saying you only show proof you are a citizen to qualify. 

They're stating your wife either did not meet one of the three conditions OR she did not provide adequate proof she is allowed to interview in France. 

The guidance from the state.gov isn't murky. 

 NVC will transfer cases to another IV processing post if parties provide a written request along with the address in the requested country and the proof of eligibility... NVC may need to contact you for additional eligibility requirements.

 

I would write them again. Request the transfer. Tell them where she is living in France. Provide them evidence she is currently in France (COVID test). Hopefully they accept the request this time around. If they do not. You can contact the consulate directly once you are DQ'ed. 

16 hours ago, pushbrk said:

What do you mean by "tickets"?  I haven't seen an actual paper ticket in a lot of years.

I admit I haven't traveled since the pandemic started. 

But, I only ever get a paper ticket. I think I've only ever received a ticket on my phone when I flew domestically in the US. 

[Zin-Zin 21]

23 hours ago, pushbrk said:

Waste of typing to argue what "should be" or the language.  You understand clearly NOW what you need to do.  Giterdun.

Agreed. 

I will get it done. I just talked to someone in my Senator's office and he said the embassy may still reject my request to transfer embassy locations even if I provide them all the provided information. He claimed that all European embassies have been overloaded with work b/c of the war in Ukraine. Is that a real possibility? 

Now, I'm wondering if the supposed backlog might really make the interview wait time significantly longer. What's your take on that?