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https://www.ajc.com/education/coach-at-delaware-hbcu-says-georgia-deputies-racially-profiled-team/XCKTHHEYTVHUPNBC3GIZYCGBDU/

 

There has to be more to this story. The bus was initially pulled over for ridding in the far left lane, although this story does not say this. 

 

 I can't believe any LEO in his right mind would do this without strong possible cause. If this actually happned without strong possible cause I would be furious. 

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6 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

If this actually happned without strong possible cause I would be furious. 

Nonconsensual search?  Those LEOs are (or should be) in BIG trouble.

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5 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Nonconsensual search?  Those LEOs are (or should be) in BIG trouble.

That will be an interesting question going forward.  If they were on a charter bus, who gives the consent, the driver (charter company representative), or the passengers, if this was a school owned bus, then I would think otherwise.  Legally, I have no idea, but the story did not touch on this potential question.  Regardless, this does not look very good, but again, if this was a charter bus, maybe these LEOs were actually profiling the vehicle.

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These deputies need to have an example made of them.

 

Body camera footage contradicts sheriff's account of how deputies acted on Delaware State lacrosse bus

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/lacrosse/2022/05/11/delaware-state-lacrosse-bus-body-camera-footage-contradicts-sheriff/9733981002/

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On 5/10/2022 at 6:44 AM, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I can't believe any LEO in his right mind would do this without strong possible cause. If this actually happned without strong possible cause I would be furious. 

Yes, hard to believe.  Throwing this out there.  How about a rival school calling in an anonymous "tip", like a prank?

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I watched the entire video.

Clear (layman's perspective) Fourth Amendment violation.  No racial profiling.

The driver and passengers should have clearly said, "We do not consent to any search."

5 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

These deputies need to have an example made of them.

Where's the +1,000 button?

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8 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

I watched the entire video.

Clear (layman's perspective) Fourth Amendment violation.  No racial profiling.

The driver and passengers should have clearly said, "We do not consent to any search."

Where's the +1,000 button?

In my observation a person that says "we do not consent'' makes a bad cop even badder. Clearly these cops were in the wrong.

 

My husband got pulled over once for being stopped at a stop sign. Not kidding. The cop said he'd nudged just ever so slightly past the stopping area, which was puzzlingly untrue. There were three other people in the car, including another experienced driver. We all knew my husband had stopped properly. My sister got so angry at that cop and tried arguing with him and I advised her that the cop in question seemed very pissy and having a bad day and that I did not want her to escalate the matter. He took a long look at our car, and questioned where we were going and what we were doing, why we were dressed up (for a funeral), and why we had a dog in the car (to take to doggy daycare so that we could go to the funeral.. meanwhile dog not happy that a person with somewhat annoyed posture was sticking his head into the window), then he made a comment that he was surprised to find no records of wrongdoing on his license (what the??!!). He let us go and then proceeded to almost run traffic off the road as he sped around a corner. It was an odd experience for my husband, and my sister still gets angry that the cop was in the wrong to this day. My dad got pulled over once for having a license plate that was.... according to the cop "too old and dirty looking"... meanwhile I saw a person the other day riding around with a 'tag' made out of cardboard and kid's elmo stickers.

 

If a cop says you are in the wrong, when you know you aren't, what can you do? I would argue the reasons why these cops pulled the bus over were nonsense if not wrong to begin with, and there was no probable cause to do what they did certainly. But if they had all said "I don't consent" I feel like the matter would have become even worse.

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2 hours ago, yuna628 said:

a person that says "we do not consent'' makes a bad cop even badder.

Too bad for the cop.  No good whatsoever comes from ever consenting to a search.

2 hours ago, yuna628 said:

My sister got so angry at that cop and tried arguing with him

Another no-no -- the goal is to end the encounter as rapidly as possible.

2 hours ago, yuna628 said:

questioned where we were going and what we were doing

The only response is a bored "Lawful personal business.  Officer/Deputy/Trooper, I wish to leave; are you detaining me, or am I free to go?"

2 hours ago, yuna628 said:

if they had all said "I don't consent" I feel like the matter would have become even worse.

Too bad for the cops, and excellent for the subsequent civil lawsuit against them and their department.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 

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