No reason for some VJers to be envious or angry

[lucho562 0]

Good post TimsDaisy

I get jealous of people that got their NOA2's a few days before me....heck so what.

[Sinergy 3]

everyone is jealous of someone on here at one time or another, the person who doesnt let it bother them becomes the better one. and the one without bitterness and heartburn.

[rebex05 1]

Yes that would have something to do with it. As stated before it is a political thing. As for Cuban cases being processed faster... from what I have seen around me the cases did pass through the CSC faster, but not always. And yes every country has it's things as someone else stated, but being that we have lived this (much more my husband as of August 7 ) extremely hard time for our relationship and communicating... but we made it work and are doing great. This is an interesting post for sure, thanks for posting.

Would this have anything to do with special attention Cubans receive?

http://www.cubasocialista.com/adjust1.htm

"Law number 89, known as the Cuban Adjustment act, was adopted by the US congress on the 2nd of November of 1966, under the Lyndon Johnson administration. It's main provisions was to change the legal status of the Cuban immigrants; to treat them as political refugees and to grant them political asylum; and as such provide them immediately with privileges that no other group enjoys, such as, automatic permanent residence status - all without review and without the usual waiting time.

This privileged law affords the Cuban illegal immigrant the opportunity, to work legally, to govt. welfare, to unemployment benefits, and to free medical care, things that the average immigrant by no means is entitled to."

It is mentioned many times on the I-485 that Cuban immigrants do not have to meet the same requirements as others do. I know the OP isn't there in his process yet, but if it applies to AOS, maybe it applies here, too.

I may be way off base here. I'm usually the one reading other's info, not the one supplying it .

[SqdnGuns 21]

This is crazy, this same coversation is going on in like 3 different threads. I get so confused as to who posted what where.

That's what happens when someone cross-post.............

i.e., Make a comment in one thread and then create a whole new thread with what the comment was........

Edited July 16, 2007 by SqdnGuns

[ischia 0]

You go to Cuba through Canada. Or if you have dual citizenship and a passport through another country. Or via a religious or cultural mission. There are many ways to get there legally and illegally.

And since you'd have to have show THE FEDS how you got to Cuba, I'm guessing being cagey about it is a little silly, no? What did you use for evidence?

Anyway - as for the original topic, ignore anyone hating on Cuban filers just like Vermont filers should get over bitter comments from CSC filers. If you get through fast, hey, more power to ya. I am jealous of people who got through faster. But that's just jealously, I don't hate them or think it's "unfair." It is what it is, and any normal person facing a 90+ day wait would rather NOT face that wait, right?

TimsDaisy; you are right and wrong at the same time...Let me explain to best of my knowledge what is legal travel and what is not. According to the (OFAC-Treasury Department) Cuba travel for all US Citizens and Legal Residents are illegal regardless of dual citizenship or nationality. Although many travellers use third countries for travel to cuba such as Canada, these types of travels are indeed illegal if not licensed by the OFAC. Now, due to pressure from the powerful Cuban-American Republicans in Florida the religious licenses are under review for sometime now and this is no longer an option for travel. Cultural visits are also canceled and last year the President made it more difficult for Cuban Americans to visit their families in cuba and licensed family visits are now once every 3 years for a maximum of 2 weeks limited to immidiate family, no aunt cousin etc... So you are right because people do travel illegaly and legal travel is very limited and is usually set aside for politicians and big shots in the agriculture sector to go visit Castro and his gang to sell them American goods legally. Ironic but families are torn apart because our dollars could help Castro stay in power, but the sale of goods from US Agricultral companies are somehow different....

That's politics for you.....Anyhow, thanks for your support and I wish the best to everyone on this board......Goodluck with your filings....

[Clarky and Tarah 0]

You go to Cuba through Canada. Or if you have dual citizenship and a passport through another country. Or via a religious or cultural mission. There are many ways to get there legally and illegally.

And since you'd have to have show THE FEDS how you got to Cuba, I'm guessing being cagey about it is a little silly, no? What did you use for evidence?

Anyway - as for the original topic, ignore anyone hating on Cuban filers just like Vermont filers should get over bitter comments from CSC filers. If you get through fast, hey, more power to ya. I am jealous of people who got through faster. But that's just jealously, I don't hate them or think it's "unfair." It is what it is, and any normal person facing a 90+ day wait would rather NOT face that wait, right?

TimsDaisy; you are right and wrong at the same time...Let me explain to best of my knowledge what is legal travel and what is not. According to the (OFAC-Treasury Department) Cuba travel for all US Citizens and Legal Residents are illegal regardless of dual citizenship or nationality. Although many travellers use third countries for travel to cuba such as Canada, these types of travels are indeed illegal if not licensed by the OFAC. Now, due to pressure from the powerful Cuban-American Republicans in Florida the religious licenses are under review for sometime now and this is no longer an option for travel. Cultural visits are also canceled and last year the President made it more difficult for Cuban Americans to visit their families in cuba and licensed family visits are now once every 3 years for a maximum of 2 weeks limited to immidiate family, no aunt cousin etc... So you are right because people do travel illegaly and legal travel is very limited and is usually set aside for politicians and big shots in the agriculture sector to go visit Castro and his gang to sell them American goods legally. Ironic but families are torn apart because our dollars could help Castro stay in power, but the sale of goods from US Agricultral companies are somehow different....

That's politics for you.....Anyhow, thanks for your support and I wish the best to everyone on this board......Goodluck with your filings....

I don't understand...How did you meet your fiance, then?

[getalife 0]

I don't understand...How did you meet your fiance, then?

I don't understand...How in THE world is that any of your business?

Why don't you worry about yourself?

[Clarky and Tarah 0]

I don't understand...How in THE world is that any of your business?

Why don't you worry about yourself?

That is hilarious, did you just make the account to post that? That is actually pretty sad.

If people were simply worrying about themselves there wouldn't even be a support forum.

[jundp 191]

I saw the difference you were trying to make in your first post. Did you understand the point that I was trying to make that whether the reasons are political or economic, there are some people who encounter many of the same difficulties you are trying to enlighten us about. In Sierra Leone, some people cannot even use a computer because their hands have been cut off. Does it matter whether the reason is political or economic? The point is that there are people the world over who suffer, and suffering alone is not the reason why Cubans go through the process faster. There is a reason tho, if someone could actually find the immigration policy that explains, it might not lead to conversations like this one.

I appreciate you trying to shed some light on situations that you and your fellow cubans face, but please don't underestimate the familiarity some of us American may have with "real suffering." We're not all ignorant of the rest of the world, and I would suggest that the Americans who actually go out into the world and meet their SOs in other countries may be well aware of the "real hardships" of other nationalities. I'm all too aware of how people in other countries suffer, please don't assume that because I am currently sitting in my home in the United States that I haven't seen first hand true human suffering, or that I haven't worked for organizations dedicated to ending that suffering.

Well said. I think it's safe to say that many people on here believe the same way you do, Quinn, and have worked with or for organizations dedicated to ending that suffering. That's why we are all open to international and/or multi-racial relationships in a way that people not in our shoes can't understand.

I don't understand...How did you meet your fiance, then?

I don't understand...How in THE world is that any of your business?

Why don't you worry about yourself?

Wow. Completely uncalled for. The OP posted something about others getting angry or jealous of Cuban visa processing and led everyone (IMHO) to believe that it's darn near impossible to meet someone from Cuba. I don't think asking how they met (on a public forum about international relationships) is all that nosy. There were a couple of requests for that information. It's more out of curiosity for how other people in our situations met rather than being malicious, which you seem to think. And you registered just to post that?

[~Nini~ 2]

I don't understand...How did you meet your fiance, then?

I don't understand...How in THE world is that any of your business?

Why don't you worry about yourself?

[smoke20 0]

I don't understand...How did you meet your fiance, then?

I don't understand...How in THE world is that any of your business?

Why don't you worry about yourself?

perfect example of a trolling TOOL!

[TimsDaisy 0]

I don't understand...How did you meet your fiance, then?

I don't understand...How in THE world is that any of your business?

Why don't you worry about yourself?

Because some other distraught US/Cuba couple who met online or whatever might find VJ and want help.

And SOMETHING HAS TO BE SHOWN TO THE GOVERNMENT.

I hope a US/Cuba filer doesn't just show photos and think that cuts it! Haha. Like "Dear USCIS: here's a photo of us together. Can't tell you how we took it, though. Hope that's cool with you. Please send approval, love, US/Cuba couple."

Oh well, we'll help where we can. If no one wants to help others, that's his/her choice.

I know it's illegal to get to Cuba via Canada. But illegality doesn't equal impossibility.

[SqdnGuns 21]

I don't understand...How in THE world is that any of your business?

Why don't you worry about yourself?

That is hilarious, did you just make the account to post that? That is actually pretty sad.

If people were simply worrying about themselves there wouldn't even be a support forum.

Thinking the same thing......................what a 'tard.

[Clarky and Tarah 0]

I don't understand...How did you meet your fiance, then?

I don't understand...How in THE world is that any of your business?

Why don't you worry about yourself?

They make the account, post a rude comment, and then disappear. Hmm...

It would be nice to know how they met, considering the difficulties the poster said they faced. Reading over it, it seems impossible that they could ever meet, let alone continue to communicate. It was just curiosity, I guess.

If no one wants other's help, why would they even be on a relationship support forum?

[getalife 0]

Thinking the same thing......................what a 'tard.

At least I'm not in such a pathetic state in my life that I have to go all the Thailand to find a companion. You are the 'tard.