No reason for some VJers to be envious or angry

[Clarky and Tarah 0]

I thought you were given a six month period to come to America, and once you arrived you had to be married within 3 months. At least that's what the flowchart says is "typical".

[ischia 0]

I don't think this post explained why Cubans are expedited through the system.

Apart from the very real embargo on Cuba, much of what you describe as being singular to Cuba are problems that I'm sure many USCs experience with their foreign SOs. Many countries have non-existent postal systems, poor internet and phone service. Luckily, I'm able to talk with my SO everyday. But I know other people are not nearly as lucky. While the difference may not be political, and more of an economic issue, in the end, what does it matter when two people who love each other cannot talk to each other? I find it a little condescending that you describe the quick processing time in terms of the way Cubans suffer. We're all suffering, and I think there are many people who are suffering just as much as the Cubans, and yet they do not get their petitions expedited.

I don't think anyone was jealous of the Cubans, they were just questioning why they get their petitions processed so quickly, and I still don't know why.

I need to mention that many countries indeed have poor postal systems and/or internet phone service as you claim but you unfortunetly failed to realize the point I was trying to make. In Cuba you can go to jail if you are caught with internet or satelite tv set up in your home. If a Cuban farmer kills his own cow he will get up to 12 years in jail and it's not for religious reasons either! Do you now see the difference? Therefore, it is an political issue not economic. Why do you think they call the stretch of water (gulf of mexico) that seperates Florida and Cuba the largest Cuban cemetery? Many people, including women & children have lost their lives trying to cross the waters to Florida. Sure, some for economic reasons but mostly for political freedom. Again, my intentions here are not to turn this post into a political issue, I tried to explain how cubans suffer so much and to shed a little light onto people like yourself to learn the realities of "real hardships" of Cubans or any other nationalities that suffers from the lack of individual freedom and progress, not a few months wait for visa approval or sufferings of some USCs waiting to see their loved ones ASAP. There are far more serious issues in this world of ours that most people have no clue of and I merely wanted to share my thoughts. If you read the posts carefully, there has been a few claims about why Cuban petitions are getting processed earlier and indeed words like "jelous" "Not fair" were posted....

[Clarky and Tarah 0]

I don't think you were sleeping, people just read it different ways.

Also, people are allowed to be jealous of the fast speed many Cuban petitioner's get approved.

[payxibka 10,045]

I thought you were given a six month period to come to America, and once you arrived you had to be married within 3 months. At least that's what the flowchart says is "typical".

What you say here is correct... you have 6 months to enter and you will receive a 90 day entry (stay). The original post said 6 month entry (stay).

[ischia 0]

I don't think you were sleeping, people just read it different ways.

Also, people are allowed to be jealous of the fast speed many Cuban petitioner's get approved.

That is the beauty of "freedom" that we are allowed to be jealous.........How about that!

[lucho562 0]

OT bound?

[wioombeen 0]

Also, people are allowed to be jealous of the fast speed many Cuban petitioner's get approved.

I am

[Clarky and Tarah 0]

I thought you were given a six month period to come to America, and once you arrived you had to be married within 3 months. At least that's what the flowchart says is "typical".

What you say here is correct... you have 6 months to enter and you will receive a 90 day entry (stay). The original post said 6 month entry (stay).

I just assumed that since "entry" means "right to enter" the original post meant they had the "right to enter" for 6 months. Sorry for any confusion.

I'm jealous, too

[Quinn 2]

I don't think this post explained why Cubans are expedited through the system.

Apart from the very real embargo on Cuba, much of what you describe as being singular to Cuba are problems that I'm sure many USCs experience with their foreign SOs. Many countries have non-existent postal systems, poor internet and phone service. Luckily, I'm able to talk with my SO everyday. But I know other people are not nearly as lucky. While the difference may not be political, and more of an economic issue, in the end, what does it matter when two people who love each other cannot talk to each other? I find it a little condescending that you describe the quick processing time in terms of the way Cubans suffer. We're all suffering, and I think there are many people who are suffering just as much as the Cubans, and yet they do not get their petitions expedited.

I don't think anyone was jealous of the Cubans, they were just questioning why they get their petitions processed so quickly, and I still don't know why.

I need to mention that many countries indeed have poor postal systems and/or internet phone service as you claim but you unfortunetly failed to realize the point I was trying to make. In Cuba you can go to jail if you are caught with internet or satelite tv set up in your home. If a Cuban farmer kills his own cow he will get up to 12 years in jail and it's not for religious reasons either! Do you now see the difference? Therefore, it is an political issue not economic. Why do you think they call the stretch of water (gulf of mexico) that seperates Florida and Cuba the largest Cuban cemetery? Many people, including women & children have lost their lives trying to cross the waters to Florida. Sure, some for economic reasons but mostly for political freedom. Again, my intentions here are not to turn this post into a political issue, I tried to explain how cubans suffer so much and to shed a little light onto people like yourself to learn the realities of "real hardships" of Cubans or any other nationalities that suffers from the lack of individual freedom and progress, not a few months wait for visa approval or sufferings of some USCs waiting to see their loved ones ASAP. There are far more serious issues in this world of ours that most people have no clue of and I merely wanted to share my thoughts. If you read the posts carefully, there has been a few claims about why Cuban petitions are getting processed earlier and indeed words like "jelous" "Not fair" were posted....

I saw the difference you were trying to make in your first post. Did you understand the point that I was trying to make that whether the reasons are political or economic, there are some people who encounter many of the same difficulties you are trying to enlighten us about. In Sierra Leone, some people cannot even use a computer because their hands have been cut off. Does it matter whether the reason is political or economic? The point is that there are people the world over who suffer, and suffering alone is not the reason why Cubans go through the process faster. There is a reason tho, if someone could actually find the immigration policy that explains, it might not lead to conversations like this one.

I appreciate you trying to shed some light on situations that you and your fellow cubans face, but please don't underestimate the familiarity some of us American may have with "real suffering." We're not all ignorant of the rest of the world, and I would suggest that the Americans who actually go out into the world and meet their SOs in other countries may be well aware of the "real hardships" of other nationalities. I'm all too aware of how people in other countries suffer, please don't assume that because I am currently sitting in my home in the United States that I haven't seen first hand true human suffering, or that I haven't worked for organizations dedicated to ending that suffering.

Edited July 16, 2007 by Quinn

[~Nini~ 2]

I saw the difference you were trying to make in your first post. Did you understand the point that I was trying to make that whether the reasons are political or economic, there are some people who encounter many of the same difficulties you are trying to enlighten us about. In Sierra Leone, some people cannot even use a computer because their hands have been cut off. Does it matter whether the reason is political or economic? The point is that there are people the world over who suffer, and suffering alone is not the reason why Cubans go through the process faster. There is a reason tho, if someone could actually find the immigration policy that explains, it might not lead to conversations like this one.

I appreciate you trying to shed some light on situations that you and your fellow cubans face, but please don't underestimate the familiarity some of us American may have with "real suffering." We're not all ignorant of the rest of the world, and I would suggest that the Americans who actually go out into the world and meet their SOs in other countries may be well aware of the "real hardships" of other nationalities. I'm all too aware of how people in other countries suffer, please don't assume that because I am currently sitting in my home in the United States that I haven't seen first hand true human suffering, or that I haven't worked for organizations dedicated to ending that suffering.

Well said, Quinn.

[Clarky and Tarah 0]

Would this have anything to do with special attention Cubans receive?

http://www.cubasocialista.com/adjust1.htm

"Law number 89, known as the Cuban Adjustment act, was adopted by the US congress on the 2nd of November of 1966, under the Lyndon Johnson administration. It's main provisions was to change the legal status of the Cuban immigrants; to treat them as political refugees and to grant them political asylum; and as such provide them immediately with privileges that no other group enjoys, such as, automatic permanent residence status - all without review and without the usual waiting time.

This privileged law affords the Cuban illegal immigrant the opportunity, to work legally, to govt. welfare, to unemployment benefits, and to free medical care, things that the average immigrant by no means is entitled to."

It is mentioned many times on the I-485 that Cuban immigrants do not have to meet the same requirements as others do. I know the OP isn't there in his process yet, but if it applies to AOS, maybe it applies here, too.

I may be way off base here. I'm usually the one reading other's info, not the one supplying it .

[weedebz 0]

ooo people getting wee bit tetchy on here. I'm sure ischia meant well in the original post and Quinn I'm sure you too have seen/have knowledge of suffering, but hasn't everyone in this world to some extent. What may be insignificant in real terms of world suffering doesn't feel any less real to the person having to deal with it. Isn't this supposed to be a support forum!?!?!

[Clarky and Tarah 0]

This is crazy, this same coversation is going on in like 3 different threads. I get so confused as to who posted what where.

[TimsDaisy 0]

You go to Cuba through Canada. Or if you have dual citizenship and a passport through another country. Or via a religious or cultural mission. There are many ways to get there legally and illegally.

And since you'd have to have show THE FEDS how you got to Cuba, I'm guessing being cagey about it is a little silly, no? What did you use for evidence?

Anyway - as for the original topic, ignore anyone hating on Cuban filers just like Vermont filers should get over bitter comments from CSC filers. If you get through fast, hey, more power to ya. I am jealous of people who got through faster. But that's just jealously, I don't hate them or think it's "unfair." It is what it is, and any normal person facing a 90+ day wait would rather NOT face that wait, right?

[trueimage 0]

Would this have anything to do with special attention Cubans receive?

http://www.cubasocialista.com/adjust1.htm

"Law number 89, known as the Cuban Adjustment act, was adopted by the US congress on the 2nd of November of 1966, under the Lyndon Johnson administration. It's main provisions was to change the legal status of the Cuban immigrants; to treat them as political refugees and to grant them political asylum; and as such provide them immediately with privileges that no other group enjoys, such as, automatic permanent residence status - all without review and without the usual waiting time.

This privileged law affords the Cuban illegal immigrant the opportunity, to work legally, to govt. welfare, to unemployment benefits, and to free medical care, things that the average immigrant by no means is entitled to."

It is mentioned many times on the I-485 that Cuban immigrants do not have to meet the same requirements as others do. I know the OP isn't there in his process yet, but if it applies to AOS, maybe it applies here, too.

I may be way off base here. I'm usually the one reading other's info, not the one supplying it .

Wow! Thanks for posting that info.