A disabled sponsor (F2b)

[HopelessRussian22 0]

Hi. In short, in two years time I’m projecting that the visa bulletin queue will at last reach my date for filing. I’m in the process of reuniting with my father (the sponsor). The thing is, he has had a benign form of multiple sclerosis since his late teens, and as of late, the lesion has started to show some signs of progression. Some doctors say that he could reach a state of partial or even, god forbid, complete disability. He has never worked in the US since he came to the country 5 years ago, and I’ve been covering all his expenses including medical insurance. I’m basically relying on cash assets on his bank account (circa 150 000 dollars) and my personal assets (mix of cash and property) in order to meet the affidavit of support reqs. If by the time of my interview he would have already become disabled, then how would it impact the CO’s evaluation of my case, given that I would basically have to spend all my cash savings and may be even sell the property in my home country in order to pay for his stay in the nursing home. On top of that, I also won’t be able to work in the US right off the bat because I’m a medical professional, and thus, will have to undergo a licensing program. This all seems so daunting. I’m seriously considering bringing him back to our home country pre-emptively and just forget about all of this.

[HopelessRussian22 0]

Could someone please chime in and assist me? Would really much appreciate it. 

[Chancy 6,241]

20 hours ago, HopelessRussian22 said:

If by the time of my interview he would have already become disabled, then how would it impact the CO’s evaluation of my case, given that I would basically have to spend all my cash savings and may be even sell the property in my home country in order to pay for his stay in the nursing home. On top of that, I also won’t be able to work in the US right off the bat because I’m a medical professional, and thus, will have to undergo a licensing program.

 

The CO will adjudicate your case based on the totality of circumstances, including your father's age, medical condition, assets, your employment potential.  No one here can predict how the CO will eventually decide, but $150,000 seems insufficient for your sponsorship, considering that you will be using those same savings to cover your father's medical care.  Does your father not have close relatives or even friends in the US that he can ask to sign as joint sponsor?

 

Edited May 4, 2022 by Chancy
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[HopelessRussian22 0]

4 minutes ago, Chancy said:

 

The CO will adjudicate your case based on the totality of circumstances, including your father's age, medical condition, assets, your employment potential.  No one here can predict how the CO will eventually decide, but $150,000 seems insufficient for your sponsorship, considering that you will be using those same savings to cover your father's medical care.  Does your father not have close relatives or even friends in the US that he can ask to sign as joint sponsor?

 

Thanks. He has some acquaintances but they aren’t best friends or anything. But even if one of them agreed to act as a joint sponsor, then would he be able to do so? I’ve heard that the US embassies only accept joint sponsorships from close friends and relatives. Lastly, would the sheer presence of a joint sponsor even suffice in my case? Nursing care costs are quite substantial and I wouldn’t be able to work in the US for quite some after my arrival. Thanks in advance.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it’s kind of crazy to have an elderly relative who’s never worked in the US (so will never fully qualify for Medicare ) with a chronic disease. Almost any other country in the world will have a public healthcare system and be more affordable. I mean - you are talking about selling a property to pay for expenses, and that’s after you’ve used up your cash savings. And then you will still be looking at some time before you start working? And you’d have to be earning a pretty good salary to be paying for his medical expenses as well as presumably your own and maybe a family at some stage? To be blunt, I don’t see the logic in this. Is he still in the US because he wants to live there, or is your own green card a factor in the decision? 

[HopelessRussian22 0]

2 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

Is he still in the US because he wants to live there, or is your own green card a factor in the decision? 

Thank you for the response. The latter has been the main goal from the start. I feel so hesitant to decide anything given how long we’ve already been waiting for this. I was seriously considering selling the greater part of the property in my home country because it would actually yield quite a hefty amount of money that could be paying for his stay in a specialised medical facility for nigh on 10 years or so, though he is only 58 years old and it could obviously still not be enough. On top of that, we don’t have any close friends or family in the US and so the search for a joint sponsor would only be limited to a few acquaintances. Do you think all of this is conducive for a negative adjudication by the CO? 

Edited May 4, 2022 by HopelessRussian22

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

49 minutes ago, HopelessRussian22 said:

Thank you for the response. The latter has been the main goal from the start. I feel so hesitant to decide anything given how long we’ve already been waiting for this. I was seriously considering selling the greater part of the property in my home country because it would actually yield quite a hefty amount of money that could be paying for his stay in a specialised medical facility for nigh on 10 years or so, though he is only 58 years old and it could obviously still not be enough. On top of that, we don’t have any close friends or family in the US and so the search for a joint sponsor would only be limited to a few acquaintances. Do you think all of this is conducive for a negative adjudication by the CO? 

Frankly, yes, but I also think you’re missing the bigger picture of your father’s quality of life as his illness progresses and costs spiral with age, especially if you don’t have close friends or family around. Isn’t he lonely ? Moving to the US isn’t always the best option for everyone.

 

Also,  curious, if your home country is Russia how you plan to get the money out given existing exchange controls? 

[Lil bear 4,201]

I am confused. Who is petitioning who?  If the father is petitioning for the son .. on what IV did the father enter.. and who sponsored him ?? 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Lil bear

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

26 minutes ago, Lil bear said:

I am confused. Who is petitioning who?  If the father is petitioning for the son .. on what IV did the father enter.. and who sponsored him ?? 

Father is petitioning son on F2B, over 21 son/daughter of LPR. Maybe father got selected in DV? 🤷‍♀️ 

[Lil bear 4,201]

1 hour ago, SusieQQQ said:

Father is petitioning son on F2B, over 21 son/daughter of LPR. Maybe father got selected in DV? 🤷‍♀️ 

Yep.  So no I 864 sponsor for father if it was a DV 

[HopelessRussian22 0]

16 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

Father is petitioning son on F2B, over 21 son/daughter of LPR. Maybe father got selected in DV? 🤷‍♀️ 

Hello again. I’ve just thought of this. Regardless of all the circumstances that I’ve previously mentioned, wouldn’t the CO still consider the fact that I’m the only family my father has and therefore, could be of great help to my disabled dad if I were to be permitted to the US? To me it just seems rather inhumane to deprive an individual who is struggling to look after himself of close family that could take good care of him even if there are some public charge concerns. Am I completely wrong on this? 

 

[Pinkrlion 2,716]

49 minutes ago, HopelessRussian22 said:

Hello again. I’ve just thought of this. Regardless of all the circumstances that I’ve previously mentioned, wouldn’t the CO still consider the fact that I’m the only family my father has and therefore, could be of great help to my disabled dad if I were to be permitted to the US? To me it just seems rather inhumane to deprive an individual who is struggling to look after himself of close family that could take good care of him even if there are some public charge concerns. Am I completely wrong on this? 

 

Yes you are wrong, it was an agreement that he would be to take care of himself and his needs to live in the US.  That is the reason for public charge consideration.  If it was disclosed that a 58yo male with MS, would deteriate at his current rate, he most likely would not have been granted the visa.  Your care is irrelevant.  In regard to your ability to be provided a visa is looming.  Per your statement, he has no one to help him, or care for him in an emergency.  What happens if your father ends up in a nursing home and becomes a ward of the state?   You really need to think about him returning home.

[HopelessRussian22 0]

5 minutes ago, Pinkrlion said:

What happens if your father ends up in a nursing home and becomes a ward of the state? 

Hello. Thank you for your response. Yes, I’ve given this an extensive thought. If this were to happen, I would have to sell my property in my home country in order to pay for all the expenses and I’ve heard that nursing homes are rather expensive in NYC. So you think his poor health condition, me being exhorted to sell my property in order to cover all his medical costs (my home country income would definitely not suffice), the fact that I won’t be able to work in the US until I verify my license (this could take up to 5-6 years), and lack of family and close friends in the US would almost certainly land me a rejection on my visa? 

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

2 hours ago, HopelessRussian22 said:

Hello again. I’ve just thought of this. Regardless of all the circumstances that I’ve previously mentioned, wouldn’t the CO still consider the fact that I’m the only family my father has and therefore, could be of great help to my disabled dad if I were to be permitted to the US? To me it just seems rather inhumane to deprive an individual who is struggling to look after himself of close family that could take good care of him even if there are some public charge concerns. Am I completely wrong on this? 

 

Humanitarian concerns are dealt with under different visa types. Public charge matters critically for immigrant visas; that is why almost all categories require an i864. I’m curious as to who sponsored your dad originally or, if he self sponsored under DV, how he represented his situation. The CO who will look at your case may very well re-examine these factors given what you’ve described. And all the other concerns you address can be handled -possibly much better - by him returning to his home country rather than by you emigrating to the US. 

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

1 hour ago, HopelessRussian22 said:

I’ve heard that nursing homes are rather expensive in NYC.

My stepgrandparent’s home in NJ (essentially suburban NYC) cost around $12k a month, a while back now. I’m sure it wasn’t the cheapest, but not the most expensive either.  You’re looking at sinking somewhere  north of half a million dollars over the 5ish years you’re going to wait to get licensed, into routine expenses? What happens if there is a medical emergency and you have a large out of pocket to pay? And support yourself at the same time with rent, living expenses etc? Honestly, if that’s the budget, you should already have assets way bigger than that - enough to use for the i864 under the assets clause  - and not be worried about public charge at all.