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DoD CTR in Germany. Do we have to move to U.S for good after receiving CR-1 stamp or can we go for a while and then come back until end of contract?

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Germany
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I can’t seem to find anyone that’s in a similar situation or ever was in this situation but I’m sure there must be plenty so I’m hoping for some insight here. 
My husband is a US citizen and a dod contractor here in Germany where we met, got married and are living together. I’m currently in the process of getting my green card and will hopefully have it in about 6 months at the latest. 
We need this green card for many reasons but we don’t currently plan to move back to the states for good any time soon. My husband has a great job and as long as things continue to go well we might stay for another 4 years. (His current contractor will end next year but still most likely after I got my GC) I already have Sofa Status. 

I know I’ll have to enter the U.S when my visa is issued in order to get my green card sent to our u.s address but will I have to stay there? If so, how long? 

When they ask me when we intend to move to the u.s what do I tell them? When I intend to enter the u.s even though I intend to leave again for a while or when we plan to move back for good? 

Anyone else in a similar situation? I want to make sure I’m doing everything correctly. 

I’ve also heard that it sometimes takes months for the green card to physically arrive at our house. Will I have to stay there for as long as it takes for the GC and SSC to arrive or can those things just arrive when I’m out of the country and my MIL can forward them to our APO on base? 
I’ve read that being overseas on official orders doesn’t count as spending time overseas so it wouldn’t put me in danger of losing my green card, is that correct? 

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IR 1 Green Card
07/06/21 - I-130 sent
04/21/22 - I-130 approved
04/22/22 - NVC received + paid
04/29/22 - Submitted DS-260 
09/15/22 - Case completed at NVC
10/04/22 - Case left NVC
10/11/22 - Consulate received case
10/19/22 - Interview scheduled
11/17/22 - Interview date
Approved on the spot! 🥳

Reentry Permit
05/11/23 - Fee accepted
06/05/23 - Biometrics taken
07/12/24 - Reentry Permit produced
07/13/24 - Case approved!

N-400 
07/16 - filed under 319 (b) (Washington Service Center)
07/16 - received Receipt Notice

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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From the people I've worked with in this situation, and myself having been through it... You will need to go to the US when you get your visa, but after that you can fly back to Germany and stay. Since you're on his LOI/orders it still counts as like you're not outside the US, per se.

 

I know my ex-wife had no troubles going back to US after 2 years outside with a GC.

 

Many people on base have foreign spouses with GC's and live freely and travel with no issues.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Germany
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That’s great news! Thanks for the reply! Do you know if I have to stay in the United States until I’ve physically received my GC and SSC? 

IR 1 Green Card
07/06/21 - I-130 sent
04/21/22 - I-130 approved
04/22/22 - NVC received + paid
04/29/22 - Submitted DS-260 
09/15/22 - Case completed at NVC
10/04/22 - Case left NVC
10/11/22 - Consulate received case
10/19/22 - Interview scheduled
11/17/22 - Interview date
Approved on the spot! 🥳

Reentry Permit
05/11/23 - Fee accepted
06/05/23 - Biometrics taken
07/12/24 - Reentry Permit produced
07/13/24 - Case approved!

N-400 
07/16 - filed under 319 (b) (Washington Service Center)
07/16 - received Receipt Notice

 

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Based on your husband’s contract w DOD, Once you  enter the US and get that I-551 stamp you will qualify for Expeditious Naturalization  ( non military ) under 319 (b)https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-g-chapter-4 

Which means you can apply for US citizenship right away . Congratulations! And yes you can apply from overseas , so you just come in to the US and there is no duration of time that you need to remain. 
 

 

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On @Family’s point, INA 319b is definitely something I would look into.  Since you are a citizen of Germany, and should you want to pursue naturalization as well as keeping your German citizenship, you might want to start looking into all the documents you need to retain it (“Beibehaltungsgenehmigung”) so that you are ready to go when the time comes. 

Good luck to both of you! 

ROC: 

12/30/2019 package sent to Texas Lockbox via USPS 

12/31/2019 package arrived at Texas Lockbox 

01/02/2020 package signed for

01/04/2020 $680 charged on credit card

01/06/2020 text message and email with case number received

01/09/2020 extension letter received; notice date: 01/03/2020

02/22/2020 biometrics appointment letter received 

03/06/2020 biometrics appointment 

08/09/2021 I-751 approved

08/16/2021 Green Card received

 

Naturalization:

12/29/2020 application filed online and receipt number received 

01/04/2021 hard copy NOA1 received 

02/27/2021 electronic biometric reuse letter received

09/19/2021 interview scheduled - electronic notice received 

09/27/2021 hard copy interview notice received (issue date: 09/21/2021)

10/27/2021 interview (10.40am), approved

11/06/2021 oath ceremony (7.30am) 

 

I AM A U.S. CITIZEN!!!!! 

 

Passport:

11/08/2021 appointment at USPS (2.00pm)

11/16/2021 money order cashed, passport “in process” (locator 69)

12/02/2021 approved and shipped

12/04/2021 passport book delivered

12/13/2021 passport card and NC delivered 

 

 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Germany
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I probably could have but it's too late now. I only just really found out about it

IR 1 Green Card
07/06/21 - I-130 sent
04/21/22 - I-130 approved
04/22/22 - NVC received + paid
04/29/22 - Submitted DS-260 
09/15/22 - Case completed at NVC
10/04/22 - Case left NVC
10/11/22 - Consulate received case
10/19/22 - Interview scheduled
11/17/22 - Interview date
Approved on the spot! 🥳

Reentry Permit
05/11/23 - Fee accepted
06/05/23 - Biometrics taken
07/12/24 - Reentry Permit produced
07/13/24 - Case approved!

N-400 
07/16 - filed under 319 (b) (Washington Service Center)
07/16 - received Receipt Notice

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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I filed our I-130 in January and reached out to Frank consulate this week asking for permission to file. They accepted us since we had an offer to go somewhere else in 2 months. 
After they found out I already filed they said they couldn't accept it, but after pleading my case they said they would make an exception and I would need to withdraw our online petition.  

I mailed off our petition today and it will be there in Frankfurt consulate tomorrow at 9am. Taking a big risk and trusting them, but I have a backup.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Germany
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We‘re already at NVC level. Would it still be possible to do it now? 

IR 1 Green Card
07/06/21 - I-130 sent
04/21/22 - I-130 approved
04/22/22 - NVC received + paid
04/29/22 - Submitted DS-260 
09/15/22 - Case completed at NVC
10/04/22 - Case left NVC
10/11/22 - Consulate received case
10/19/22 - Interview scheduled
11/17/22 - Interview date
Approved on the spot! 🥳

Reentry Permit
05/11/23 - Fee accepted
06/05/23 - Biometrics taken
07/12/24 - Reentry Permit produced
07/13/24 - Case approved!

N-400 
07/16 - filed under 319 (b) (Washington Service Center)
07/16 - received Receipt Notice

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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1 minute ago, ValRam said:

We‘re already at NVC level. Would it still be possible to do it now? 

I wouldn't worry about it then. You're pretty far into the process now. You're at DoS side of things so it wouldn't be possible or worth it I don't think.

I filed in Jan. 16 of 2022 and have submitted 3 expedite requests, had senator request twice and USCIS never answered or assigned it to anyone. 3 months and waiting, and my co-worker co assigned and worked on in 2 weeks.


Good luck with the rest of your process

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Germany
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Oh wow. I hope you get approved really soon then! That sounds so stressful. Sending you the best of luck 🤞🏻

IR 1 Green Card
07/06/21 - I-130 sent
04/21/22 - I-130 approved
04/22/22 - NVC received + paid
04/29/22 - Submitted DS-260 
09/15/22 - Case completed at NVC
10/04/22 - Case left NVC
10/11/22 - Consulate received case
10/19/22 - Interview scheduled
11/17/22 - Interview date
Approved on the spot! 🥳

Reentry Permit
05/11/23 - Fee accepted
06/05/23 - Biometrics taken
07/12/24 - Reentry Permit produced
07/13/24 - Case approved!

N-400 
07/16 - filed under 319 (b) (Washington Service Center)
07/16 - received Receipt Notice

 

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On 5/2/2022 at 7:22 AM, ValRam said:

That’s great news! Thanks for the reply! Do you know if I have to stay in the United States until I’ve physically received my GC and SSC? 

No.  You don't need to stay in the U.S. to receive the card.  I am having it sent to my companies HR and they are going to mail it to my APO box.  Also, as far as being outside of the United States, if you dig through the regulations, you will find that if you are working with the U.S. Government or in Support of the U.S. Government as a contractor  your wife that has a GC has not considered to have given it up.  That's why when you come to the Passport Control, you need a letter from your company and a SOFA card which just shows that you are Temporarily outside of the U.S.  With that said, for us who support the government,  if you continue to dig you will find that if you will be outside of the U.S. for more than 1 year, that the waiting times for U.S. Citizenship does not apply, and you can submit an N400 after you get the GC.  However, she still has to pass the interview and test.  We are just except from waiting.  Also, I would suggest if she can pass the test that you do this since it will make things easier overall in the future.  

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