U.S. consulate determination of public charge

[Dr.Doom2022 0]

46 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Expect scrutiny.   They will want to know why a stranger would sign on for such a commitment.

 

Personally, I would only ever sponsor my spouse, child or parent.  It's far more than just a signature on a form, as you will find out.

Thanks. This all sounds like unnecessary hassle to me. As an alternative, could I just solely use the cash assets on her US bank account? She has no dependents in the household (barring myself) and the sum of her savings is somewhere to the tune of 200 000 dollars. Secondly, both she and my father would be over 60 years of age by the time I reunite with her and they also have some chronic conditions. Would such circumstances negatively impact my case given that her medical will be fully covered by a private insurance plan. My father and I are covering all her living expenses with our home-country income, and thus she won't have to work in the US. 

[SalishSea 17,833]

1 minute ago, Dr.Doom2022 said:

Thanks. This all sounds like unnecessary hassle to me. As an alternative, could I just solely use the cash assets on her US bank account? She has no dependents in the household (barring myself) and the sum of her savings is somewhere to the tune of 200 000 dollars. Secondly, both she and my father would be over 60 years of age by the time I reunite with her and they also have some chronic conditions. Would such circumstances negatively impact my case given that her medical will be fully covered by a private insurance plan. My father and I are covering all her living expenses with our home-country income, and thus she won't have to work in the US. 

Have you looked into insurance premiums?  That $200k may seem like a lot, but her medical premiums and bills could be $20k/year, or more.

Just now, Jorgedig said:

Have you looked into insurance premiums?  That $200k may seem like a lot, but her medical premiums and bills could be $20k/year, or more.

And she won't have paid into the Medicare program to be able to benefit from it.

[Dr.Doom2022 0]

4 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Have you looked into insurance premiums?  That $200k may seem like a lot, but her medical premiums and bills could be $20k/year, or more.

And she won't have paid into the Medicare program to be able to benefit from it.

Yeah, we are well aware of the premiums. All her expenses will be fully covered while I wait for my I130 to receive approval. So she will never even try to make use of any of the public benefits.  Given this, could I just solely rely on those cash assets on her bank account with no income from her and no joint sponsor in order to clear the public charge req? Thanks in advance. 

[Dr.Doom2022 0]

Hello. Can I as an applicant for the Family based Immigration visa solely rely on the cash savings of the primary sponsor with the latter having no income and no joint sponsors included? The required amount as per "The 5X rule" would be somewhere around 115 000 dollars whereas the sponsor's savings are in the ballpark of 200 000. Thanks in advance. 

[Family 3,988]

44 minutes ago, Dr.Doom2022 said:

Yeah, we are well aware of the premiums. All her expenses will be fully covered while I wait for my I130 to receive approval. So she will never even try to make use of any of the public benefits.  Given this, could I just solely rely on those cash assets on her bank account with no income from her and no joint sponsor in order to clear the public charge req? Thanks in advance. 

As things stand today, liquid assets @5 times the Poverty Guidelines are sufficient and  if needed so is a Joint Sponsor with NO best friend role, just a statement ( on last page of I-864 ) that says “ I am a friend of Sponsor or Intending Immigrant, have known her / or him for x years . She has always been self sufficient and never required my help, but I stand ready to satisfy all the requirements of this I-864.”

 

But do keep in mind, what MAY happen in 8 years is beyond anyone’s ability to foresee. Your moms age and life expectancy given health concerns, your own life changes and the possibility of falling in love and marrying, US immigration reform that may change Family Preference Categories…another era of our own Presidential Proclamations or a Further Deterioration of your Own. 
 

Your English is impeccable, where may I ask did you study and practice such fluency and flair ?

 

 

[Dr.Doom2022 0]

50 minutes ago, Family said:

As things stand today, liquid assets @5 times the Poverty Guidelines are sufficient and  if needed so is a Joint Sponsor with NO best friend role, just a statement ( on last page of I-864 ) that says “ I am a friend of Sponsor or Intending Immigrant, have known her / or him for x years . She has always been self sufficient and never required my help, but I stand ready to satisfy all the requirements of this I-864.”

 

But do keep in mind, what MAY happen in 8 years is beyond anyone’s ability to foresee. Your moms age and life expectancy given health concerns, your own life changes and the possibility of falling in love and marrying, US immigration reform that may change Family Preference Categories…another era of our own Presidential Proclamations or a Further Deterioration of your Own. 
 

Your English is impeccable, where may I ask did you study and practice such fluency and flair ?

 

 

Appreciate you chiming in. Thank you so much. First, it's quite flattering to hear such words from an eloquent English speaker like yourself. Nevertheless, wouldn't necessarily call mine impeccable. Mostly trying to hone it on my own to the best of my ability. Secondly, just wanted to clarify one thing. How likely is the CO to include things like her age (circa 60-ish), her chronic conditions (though being fully covered by private insurance), and the fact that I would be leaving my 70-year old father behind to remain in our home country in his/her adjudication? Or are things of such nature just ancillary, and therefore won't have any feasible impact on my case? 

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[milimelo 4,481]

If mom is DV, why can’t you the OP, also pursue DV lottery? May get it faster than through I-130 (still do that as a back up). 

[Dashinka 24,505]

7 hours ago, Dr.Doom2022 said:

Appreciate you chiming in. Thank you so much. First, it's quite flattering to hear such words from an eloquent English speaker like yourself. Nevertheless, wouldn't necessarily call mine impeccable. Mostly trying to hone it on my own to the best of my ability. Secondly, just wanted to clarify one thing. How likely is the CO to include things like her age (circa 60-ish), her chronic conditions (though being fully covered by private insurance), and the fact that I would be leaving my 70-year old father behind to remain in our home country in his/her adjudication? Or are things of such nature just ancillary, and therefore won't have any feasible impact on my case? 

It is really hard to say what a CO will consider.  I tend to be of the belief that if someone meets the requirements of an I864 with assets that should suffice, and I believe there are some stories of people doing just that.  That being said, a CO may think otherwise, who really knows.  All the intending immigrant can do is meet the requirements for the visa they are applying for, and getting a CO that seems to favor income over assets would not result in an immediate denial, but rather an RFE for a joint sponsor.  I realize it is a long way off, but my advice is to keep building your assets, and when the time comes (actually 6 months earlier), start looking for ways to continue your own income after arrival.  I also agree with @milimelo, you should also apply for the DV.

 

Btw, it is good to see someone planning this far in advance, so many stories of people caught trying to do something last minute.

 

Good Luck!

[JeanneAdil 6,509]

8 hours ago, Dr.Doom2022 said:

Appreciate you chiming in. Thank you so much. First, it's quite flattering to hear such words from an eloquent English speaker like yourself. Nevertheless, wouldn't necessarily call mine impeccable. Mostly trying to hone it on my own to the best of my ability. Secondly, just wanted to clarify one thing. How likely is the CO to include things like her age (circa 60-ish), her chronic conditions (though being fully covered by private insurance), and the fact that I would be leaving my 70-year old father behind to remain in our home country in his/her adjudication? Or are things of such nature just ancillary, and therefore won't have any feasible impact on my case? 

she is going to sponsor u for the F2b visa 

her income for that is the key (when the interview is scheduled)

u say she will be over 60 by interview time and has MS

do u have any idea of the cost of medical (insurance or care) in the US?

we not only need one insurance / we need primary and another for what the primary doesn't cover

what if she needs a rehab center or nursing home /  that can swallow $200,000 fast 

no need to answer /just putting this out so u can be aware

 

does she have family here to live with?

or anyone to care for her MS?

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10 hours ago, Dr.Doom2022 said:

Hello. Can I as an applicant for the Family based Immigration visa solely rely on the cash savings of the primary sponsor with the latter having no income and no joint sponsors included? The required amount as per "The 5X rule" would be somewhere around 115 000 dollars whereas the sponsor's savings are in the ballpark of 200 000. Thanks in advance. 

 

[Dr.Doom2022 0]

Hi. I'm planning to begin the process of reunification with my mother, a green-card holder, as an F2B categorised alien via consular processing. For the past couple of days I have been examining the topic of public charge determination based on the totality of the applicant's (my) circumstances. Have found a bunch of publications and legal docs delineating the process but, unfortunately, all of them relate solely to adjustment of status. Would really much appreciate if someone provided me with a link to some posting or a legal document that explains public charge determination as it relates to the consular processing applicants. Thanks in advance. 

[SalishSea 17,833]

14 minutes ago, Dr.Doom2022 said:

Hi. I'm planning to begin the process of reunification with my mother, a green-card holder, as an F2B categorised alien via consular processing. For the past couple of days I have been examining the topic of public charge determination based on the totality of the applicant's (my) circumstances. Have found a bunch of publications and legal docs delineating the process but, unfortunately, all of them relate solely to adjustment of status. Would really much appreciate if someone provided me with a link to some posting or a legal document that explains public charge determination as it relates to the consular processing applicants. Thanks in advance. 

Same feedback as last time you asked.

[Dr.Doom2022 0]

22 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Same feedback as last time you asked.

I don't get it. What do you mean? It's the first time I'm asking this type of question.

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[SusieQQQ 11,586]

Haven’t read all the responses. You’re a relatively young, educated person and will clearly be able to support yourself one way or another. My thinking is that your mom meeting the i864 will tick the box and that most of the public charge concern will actually be addressed by you. In the meantime, I assume you will be independently entering DV as well?

 

btw I’m not sure if it’s possible now for a Russian with current circumstances, but usually you can do a lot of the conversion stuff before you actually move - my cousin is a dentist and did the required conversion  exams before he actually moved to the US. And you have plenty of time to get those done. I think it did require him flying to the US annually to write exams, or something.