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Hi. My mom has just successfully passed her DV lottery interview and will be flying to the US shortly. My father (62 years of age) and I are going to remain in our home country of Russia and will be providing her with full financial support. I'm currently planning to take the F2B route in order to immigrate to the US through my mother. I'm well aware that it could take up to 8 years. My father has already decided to stay in Russia for the remainder of his lifetime and won't be joining me. My only concern about the whole process is pertained to the issue around the public charge rule and affidavit of support that have to be dealt with in order for me to receive approval on my visa. I just wanted to know could the following circumstances increase my chances of being deemed as a potential public charge, and thus lead to a rejection: 

1) My mother's age at the time of the interview will be circa 60 to 61 and she's also been suffering from a mild form of multiple sclerosis ever since she was a teen. We'll definitely make that she has full private medical coverage payed out of our own pockets. 
2) She almost definitely won't have any income whatsoever by the time of the interview but will be able to show a sum of assets consisting of cash and stocks located in the US bank that is safely above the required minimum.
3) My father will basically be staying in Russia on his own as a 70-year old but with a passive income stream 
4) I'm a dentist and so I'll have to go through a torturous and expensive process of licensing in order to work legally in the US. I'm planning to use the aforementioned assets of my mother in order to fund it. 
5)I'll also try to contribute to the case with my young age, proficiency in English, medical education, prior employment history, property in Russia

Thanks in advance. 

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If your mother has enough assets to meet the requirements of the I864 at the time of your interview you should be fine.  You can also use your assets to bolster this.  Just one other item, your mother will enter as a GC using her DV, if she naturalizes after five years you would switch to F1, if still unmarried, and add about another year to your wait. 

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27 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

If your mother has enough assets to meet the requirements of the I864 at the time of your interview you should be fine.  You can also use your assets to bolster this.  Just one other item, your mother will enter as a GC using her DV, if she naturalizes after five years you would switch to F1, if still unmarried, and add about another year to your wait. 

Thank you so much for the swift response. I'm just worried that simply meeting the sponsor's asset or income requirement won't be enough. Have examined quite a few posts on the forum regarding the topic and a number of users emphasised on the fact that the CO's usually review the totality of circumstances and as such pay a lot of attention to things like age, health of the sponsor (not just the applicant), whether both the applicant and the sponsor have any dependents like children or old parents, and so on. Based on your experience, is it a widespread practice amongst CO's? 

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Hi. Unlike my prior post, I"ll try to make this short and to the point. I am a future applicant for the F2b route and will be reuniting with my mother in the US. Are factors like old age and poor health of the sponsor (my mother), no income from the sponsor (mom has enough assets to qualify), having an old father back in my home country, being a dentist, and thus having to undergo relicensing in the US likely to have a highly negative impact on my case as a potential public charge? I myself am a healthy young adult and will also be able to contribute to the case with my knowledge of the English language, passive income and medical education. What are my chances? Will I inevitably be required to find a joint sponsor? We don't have any relatives or close friends in the US, and I've been told that you can't just pick any casual acquaintance for this role. Thanks in advance. 

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They seem to prefer income to assets, so a Joint Sponsor would be good insurance

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4 hours ago, Dr.Doom2022 said:

nd I've been told that you can't just pick any casual acquaintance for this role.

Only if that "casual acquaintance" understands their role and agrees to the long term ramifications of being a joint sponsor.  You can't just "pick" anyone.  All those other factors you listed are pretty irrelevant.  

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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

They seem to prefer income to assets, so a Joint Sponsor would be good insurance

Thank you for your reply. So is it true that for the joint sponsoring you can only pick people who have been long and well acquainted both with the applicant and the sponsor. We are considering to ask my mother's acquaintance, but I wouldn't necessarily call her a close friend of my mother per se whereas I myself barely know her. 

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Well USC or LPR

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3 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

LOL!!!!!   Only if that "casual acquaintance" understands their role and agrees to the long term ramifications of being a joint sponsor.  You can't just "pick" anyone.  All those other factors you listed are pretty irrelevant.  

Thanks. Yeah, by "pick" I mean kindly ask to become a joint sponsor while making sure the person is fully aware of all the terms and caveats that will ensue. But the question lingers. Am I allowed to ask a person to whom I as an applicant have little to no relation? The person is just my mother's friend and they aren't like besties or something 

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It is a big ask

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assets as described in I 864 are all that is needed

don't forget u can work immediately in the US 

maybe not as dentist till all state certification tests and whatever else is needed are done

but many states like Massachusetts allow a one year license to work in public  health clinic , dental school or prison

and the state of Minnesota  allows a foreign educated dentist to have a license without a US education

lots to think of here 

plus a lot of research for u to do to understand the state requirements where u will live

In the state of Massachusetts, foreign dentists can be eligible for Dental Intern Limited Licensure or Full-Time Faculty Limited Licensure. The Limited license allows the foreign dentist to practice in a public health clinic, hospital, dental school, or prison under the supervision of a Massachusetts licensed dentist. Limited licenses are valid for one year and may be renewed for up to five years. To extend the license beyond the five year period the applicant is required to pass the NERB (North East Regional Examining Board). The Faculty license allows the foreign dentist to practice as a full-time faculty member in a dental school under the supervision of a Massachusetts licensed dentist. Faculty licenses are renewed on a yearly basis but unlike the limited license can be renewed indefinitely. Click here for more information. I have heard of similar limited licensure options in Nebraska, Tennesse, and Maine.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Dr.Doom2022 said:

Thank you for your reply. So is it true that for the joint sponsoring you can only pick people who have been long and well acquainted both with the applicant and the sponsor. We are considering to ask my mother's acquaintance, but I wouldn't necessarily call her a close friend of my mother per se whereas I myself barely know her. 

Expect scrutiny.   They will want to know why a stranger would sign on for such a commitment.

 

Personally, I would only ever sponsor my spouse, child or parent.  It's far more than just a signature on a form, as you will find out.

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7 hours ago, Dr.Doom2022 said:

Hi. My mom has just successfully passed her DV lottery interview and will be flying to the US shortly. My father (62 years of age) and I are going to remain in our home country of Russia and will be providing her with full financial support. I'm currently planning to take the F2B route in order to immigrate to the US through my mother. I'm well aware that it could take up to 8 years. My father has already decided to stay in Russia for the remainder of his lifetime and won't be joining me. My only concern about the whole process is pertained to the issue around the public charge rule and affidavit of support that have to be dealt with in order for me to receive approval on my visa. I just wanted to know could the following circumstances increase my chances of being deemed as a potential public charge, and thus lead to a rejection: 

1) My mother's age at the time of the interview will be circa 60 to 61 and she's also been suffering from a mild form of multiple sclerosis ever since she was a teen. We'll definitely make that she has full private medical coverage payed out of our own pockets. 
2) She almost definitely won't have any income whatsoever by the time of the interview but will be able to show a sum of assets consisting of cash and stocks located in the US bank that is safely above the required minimum.
3) My father will basically be staying in Russia on his own as a 70-year old but with a passive income stream 
4) I'm a dentist and so I'll have to go through a torturous and expensive process of licensing in order to work legally in the US. I'm planning to use the aforementioned assets of my mother in order to fund it. 
5)I'll also try to contribute to the case with my young age, proficiency in English, medical education, prior employment history, property in Russia

Thanks in advance. 

How will your mother support herself in the US?  I thought DV winners were generally expected to work in the US?

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