Address change questions (split, merged)

[Lil bear 4,140]

2 minutes ago, lalove said:

One would think so, but I remember one thread where someone said their i-865 was rejected and they sent a new one with a cover letter. I am just curious in such case, would the requirement of filing within 30 days be considered met since the original form was sent within the 30 day time limit?

also, sending via FedEx/UPS is ok, right?

Postmarked before the 30 day window closes is all you need.  Keep the receipt 

[lalove 0]

1 minute ago, Lil bear said:

Postmarked before the 30 day window closes is all you need.  Keep the receipt 

Actually depends on the way you read the instructions - if you read it conservatively - it appears that - scanned copy of form, postmarked and proof of receipt within 30 day window is the proof that you met the filing requirement.

From i-865 instructions:

"You should retain in your records:
1. A copy of the completed Form I-865; and
2. Evidence that you sent the original Form I-865 to the correct USCIS office and USCIS received that Form I-865

USCIS will accept this documentation as proof that you complied with the requirement to file Form I-865. For example, if you send Form I-865 using the U.S. Postal Service (USPS), you should keep with your file copy of Form I-865, the USPS certified mail receipt or Express Mail shipping label along with a return receipt, both bearing postmarks and the address where you mailed Form I-865. If you send Form I-865 by a commercial delivery service, you should keep a photocopy of the shipping label and signature proof of delivery."

I guess the bold part answers my question that sending via FedEx/UPS is fine.

Also, do I staple all five pages or use a paper clip to hold them together?

[arken 4,197]

49 minutes ago, lalove said:

allowed?). I am curious what happens if USCIS rejects the form for some mistake etc. (leaving a field blank instead of N/A)? Do we get another 30 days to refile since the date of rejection or we will be considered to not have filed in time is the form is rejected?

 

 

Don't give too much attention on such minor things. You are simply reporting the uscis of your new address. If, for the sake of it, they reject it, you can send it anytime. Don't worry about 30 days reset. Some people completely forget about i865 and submit it years later. No big deal.

 

Don't staple, use paper clips.

Edited May 16, 2022 by arken

[lalove 0]

6 minutes ago, arken said:

 

 

Don't give too much attention on such minor things. You are simply reporting the uscis of your new address. If, for the sake of it, they reject it, you can send it anytime. Don't worry about 30 days reset. Some people completely forget about i865 and submit it years later. No big deal.

 

Don't staple, use paper clips.

Thanks! Unrelated but I have been wondering technically, what is the worst case outcome for failing to meet the 30 day deadline. Can green card be revoked or the worst case is fine for sponsor.

 

Also, for IR1 visa, when filing for naturalization do we have to provide proof of relationship (co-habitation etc.) as well or is that only applicable to removal of conditions for CR1 visa?

[lalove 0]

6 hours ago, arken said:

 

 

Don't give too much attention on such minor things. You are simply reporting the uscis of your new address. If, for the sake of it, they reject it, you can send it anytime. Don't worry about 30 days reset. Some people completely forget about i865 and submit it years later. No big deal.

 

Don't staple, use paper clips.

Can I send via FedEx/UPS and request signature? Does USCIS Vermont Center provide signatures as proof of delivery?

Edited May 16, 2022 by lalove

[carmel34 3,610]

9 hours ago, lalove said:

Also, for IR1 visa, when filing for naturalization do we have to provide proof of relationship (co-habitation etc.) as well or is that only applicable to removal of conditions for CR1 visa?

From form N-400:  (3) Evidence that you and your spouse have lived in marital union for at least 3 years at the time you file your Form N-400. Such evidence may include: (a) Joint bank and credit card statements; (b) Leases or mortgages; (c) Birth certificates of children; (d) Insurance policies; and (e) Internal Revenue Service (IRS)-certified copies of the income tax forms that you and your spouse filed for the past 3 years (or an IRS tax return transcript for the last 3 years).

[arken 4,197]

10 hours ago, lalove said:

Thanks! Unrelated but I have been wondering technically, what is the worst case outcome for failing to meet the 30 day deadline. Can g

I'd say you are giving it a much more thought that the uscis does. If your i865 arrives at uscis post the 30 day period, either the reviewing officer/staff won't even care about the date or just laugh it off and update your new address in their system.

 

5 hours ago, lalove said:

Can I send via FedEx/UPS and request signature? Does USCIS Vermont Center provide signatures as proof of delivery?

Of course you can but there is no need. Just send it without signature confirmation. No big deal. You'll get delivery confirmation regardless.

 

11 hours ago, lalove said:

Also, for IR1 visa, when filing for naturalization do we have to provide proof of relationship (co-habitation etc.) as well or is that only applicable to removal of conditions for CR1 visa?

To some limited extent yes, it's in N400 instructions.
 

[lalove 0]

2 hours ago, carmel34 said:

From form N-400:  (3) Evidence that you and your spouse have lived in marital union for at least 3 years at the time you file your Form N-400. Such evidence may include: (a) Joint bank and credit card statements; (b) Leases or mortgages; (c) Birth certificates of children; (d) Insurance policies; and (e) Internal Revenue Service (IRS)-certified copies of the income tax forms that you and your spouse filed for the past 3 years (or an IRS tax return transcript for the last 3 years).

 

50 minutes ago, arken said:

To some limited extent yes, it's in N400 instructions.
 

For me, I provided an address A to the CBP officer when he asked me at POE, at what address do I want my green card to be sent. However, when I arrived, our new apartment was ready to move in so the same day we moved in to the new apartment (Address B). Hence, I filed AR-11 to update USCIS. My spouse is filing i-865 to change address effective the same day as my POE also. However, I am curious when I file for N-400, would the application let me enter my address like so (for example):

Address A: March 04 2022 - March 04 2022
Address B: March 04 2022 - June 2023

and so on

 

Basically would the N-400 system/application let me enter my address A only for one day, and also begin next address from same day as well? I would want to do so to be consistent with the information I entered in AR-11, which asked for my previous physical address and I entered address A there, so omitting address A altogether from address history would not be advised?

Edited May 16, 2022 by lalove

[Rocio0010 5,579]

On 5/16/2022 at 10:05 AM, lalove said:

Basically would the N-400 system/application let me enter my address A only for one day, and also begin next address from same day as well? I would want to do so to be consistent with the information I entered in AR-11, which asked for my previous physical address and I entered address A there, so omitting address A altogether from address history would not be advised?

You're overthinking everything, from the I-865 to this. For the I-865, I sent it via USPS, no signature required, just a tracking number. They got it, and they sent me a notice confirming it. End of story.

 

For your address, I do not think it will be an issue. Skip address A if it doesn't let you. I mean, what else are you going to do?

[Chancy 6,241]

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[Ontarkie 14,190]

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48 minutes ago, lalove said:

I already submitted i-865, delivered via UPS. I called USCIS and the agent said they talked to tier two officer and the sponsor is required to file ar-11 as well? To me, this seems incorrect. If you go by the address change instructions provided on USCIS website, as shown below:
 

 

I get the two things from above instructions:

1. If you were a sponsor YOU MUST file i-865.
2. And, if you have a PENDING petition, you should follow instructions at the top of the page. The "instructions at top of the page" (to be filed if you have pending petition) ask to update address via online myUSCIS account and by filing AR-11.

3. As far as myUSCIS account is concerned - my wife's USCIS account does not have a "my profile" section where she can update her address. My (immigrant's account does have a "my profile" section on myUSCIS account and we changed my address there). We tried to "verify" my wife's myUSCIS account hoping it would enable "my profile" but you need an A number for that which she does not have as she is a U.S. citizen.

4. When filing AR-11 online, it does not let a U.S. citizen file AR-11 unless you choose you have a pending petition or application. Since her I-130 was approved and I am already in the U.S., selecting this option just to we can fill AR-11 online seems WRONG, as we will be providing incorrect information to the USCIS saying the petition is pending as the AR-11 online form asks for the petition number? The agent did say to file a paper AR-11 since the online system does not let U.S. citizen file it. However, I am wondering if I should just ignore this? My wife will be above 30 days limit tomorrow anyway, so I am not sure if there is a point in filing AR-11 also?

 

The agent said she could not update sponsor's address over phone.

 

Thanks!

 

 

[lalove 0]

@Chancy @arken @pushbrk @Ontarkie I used my in-laws name in the "in care of" field in mailing address in both my AR-11 and my wife (sponsor's) I-865 mailing address. We entered our actual physical address which is different than mailing address. We used our in-laws place since we are still not sure about mail delivery at our new address is robust and trustworthy. Quick questions:

1. Using a different mailing address than the physical address is perfectly ok to do?

2. Using "in care of" for mailing address is ok to do?
3. My understanding is that using "in care of" simply means that the mail will be received by that person (my in-law) at that mailing address, right? It does not mean that I am incapacitated and being cared for by the person who is mentioned in "in care of"? I remember reading something about person who cares for you can sign for you etc. in USICS form instructions and was wondering if I messed up by entering "in care of"?