I-864 AoS accepted (asset only), but review note for financial evidence, not sure what to do...

[Ashley Wallace 11]

1 hour ago, Fabio R S said:

I thought you said you already went through your interview. A DQ email is typically sent by NVC before you're interview can be scheduled so now I'm a bit confused.

 

Did you get an RFE message requesting the proof of income document? You then submitted it and never got a DQ email? But got an interview date anyway?

That is correct. Like I stated I think the proof of income was a flub, but still i got zero information back on it. When I asked to expedite cause the actually approval form CEAC was just taking to long, they approve to expedite. My wife interview and they have taken her docs, but they said we need to submit update 1040 and W2 of mines or affidavit ( I think its really on the affidavit cause I don’t need to claim my Japan income. I filled my 1040 as unemployed) 

[adventures 14]

6 hours ago, Ashley Wallace said:

That is correct. Like I stated I think the proof of income was a flub, but still i got zero information back on it. When I asked to expedite cause the actually approval form CEAC was just taking to long, they approve to expedite. My wife interview and they have taken her docs, but they said we need to submit update 1040 and W2 of mines or affidavit ( I think its really on the affidavit cause I don’t need to claim my Japan income. I filled my 1040 as unemployed) 

How long did the approval take for you when you sent the request to expedite? I am wondering if I could do the same thing and expedite the process, stating that our children already have a spot in schools and we will probably loose them if we don't manage to be there on time.. Did you mention the "silliness" of the RFE that you got in the request?

[Fabio R S 22]

4 hours ago, adventures said:

How long did the approval take for you when you sent the request to expedite? I am wondering if I could do the same thing and expedite the process, stating that our children already have a spot in schools and we will probably loose them if we don't manage to be there on time.. Did you mention the "silliness" of the RFE that you got in the request?

@adventures Have you submitted the document they requested under PROOF OF EMPLOYMENT yet? I´m trying to convince my lawyer that we don´t need a joint sponsor and to just submit the evidence of income they requested.

 

I´ve seen a few recent cases of people who got RFEs and then DQs a few days after submitting the requested evidence so maybe we dont go to the back of the line after all. Fingers crossed.

[adventures 14]

1 hour ago, Fabio R S said:

@adventures Have you submitted the document they requested under PROOF OF EMPLOYMENT yet? I´m trying to convince my lawyer that we don´t need a joint sponsor and to just submit the evidence of income they requested.

 

I´ve seen a few recent cases of people who got RFEs and then DQs a few days after submitting the requested evidence so maybe we dont go to the back of the line after all. Fingers crossed.

Yes!  we did in Fact. Just to be sure we submitted several more documents. I submitted every document with a comment that we only do this for the RFE, but think that it isn't relevant for the case itself due to our asset only approach. Hoping that this approach makes it easier to expedite the case.

 

So overall we submitted:

 

- Statement about evidence of income under "Proof of Work" and that we can not provide evidence for US-based income, but that we provide our foreign income even though we know that it doesn't matter and instead we are using our assets.

- 2 statements, that we also can not provide W2 or 1099 Forms  under the respective labels (We don't need these as we're not filing jointly. But we read in other threads that they wanted this.. so now we just want to  be 100% sure we don't get another RFE)

- Uploaded past job confirmations under "proof of work" and bank statements for the income (all based in Germany, so for the interview they won't play any role at all...)

- Uploaded a updated Bank Statement about our assets, as we are in the process of moving them to the US and also mention this in the statement about evidence of income. We thought it might help..

 

We think that probably just the statement for "evidence of income" uploaded under proof of work would have been enough. But we thought that as we're probably resetting the waiting clock we could upload the other things as well just to be sure.

 

Next thing we are going to try now is submitting a request to expedite our document approval. Maybe this will work in Germany and with a little bit of luck it'll speed things up. We are on a tight schedule where children need to go to schools they have already been  approved to at end of August... Maybe the fact, that this still seems to be like an error from NVC + the school thing will convince them to speed things up a bit...

[Fabio R S 22]

3 minutes ago, adventures said:

Yes!  we did in Fact. Just to be sure we submitted several more documents. I submitted every document with a comment that we only do this for the RFE, but think that it isn't relevant for the case itself due to our asset only approach. Hoping that this approach makes it easier to expedite the case.

 

So overall we submitted:

 

- Statement about evidence of income under "Proof of Work" and that we can not provide evidence for US-based income, but that we provide our foreign income even though we know that it doesn't matter and instead we are using our assets.

- 2 statements, that we also can not provide W2 or 1099 Forms  under the respective labels (We don't need these as we're not filing jointly. But we read in other threads that they wanted this.. so now we just want to  be 100% sure we don't get another RFE)

- Uploaded past job confirmations under "proof of work" and bank statements for the income (all based in Germany, so for the interview they won't play any role at all...)

- Uploaded a updated Bank Statement about our assets, as we are in the process of moving them to the US and also mention this in the statement about evidence of income. We thought it might help..

 

We think that probably just the statement for "evidence of income" uploaded under proof of work would have been enough. But we thought that as we're probably resetting the waiting clock we could upload the other things as well just to be sure.

 

Next thing we are going to try now is submitting a request to expedite our document approval. Maybe this will work in Germany and with a little bit of luck it'll speed things up. We are on a tight schedule where children need to go to schools they have already been  approved to at end of August... Maybe the fact, that this still seems to be like an error from NVC + the school thing will convince them to speed things up a bit...

When did you submit everything? I´m watching your case closely since I´m in a very similar boat.

[Redro 4,611]

3 minutes ago, adventures said:

Yes!  we did in Fact. Just to be sure we submitted several more documents. I submitted every document with a comment that we only do this for the RFE, but think that it isn't relevant for the case itself due to our asset only approach. Hoping that this approach makes it easier to expedite the case.

 

So overall we submitted:

 

- Statement about evidence of income under "Proof of Work" and that we can not provide evidence for US-based income, but that we provide our foreign income even though we know that it doesn't matter and instead we are using our assets.

- 2 statements, that we also can not provide W2 or 1099 Forms  under the respective labels (We don't need these as we're not filing jointly. But we read in other threads that they wanted this.. so now we just want to  be 100% sure we don't get another RFE)

- Uploaded past job confirmations under "proof of work" and bank statements for the income (all based in Germany, so for the interview they won't play any role at all...)

- Uploaded a updated Bank Statement about our assets, as we are in the process of moving them to the US and also mention this in the statement about evidence of income. We thought it might help..

 

We think that probably just the statement for "evidence of income" uploaded under proof of work would have been enough. But we thought that as we're probably resetting the waiting clock we could upload the other things as well just to be sure.

 

Next thing we are going to try now is submitting a request to expedite our document approval. Maybe this will work in Germany and with a little bit of luck it'll speed things up. We are on a tight schedule where children need to go to schools they have already been  approved to at end of August... Maybe the fact, that this still seems to be like an error from NVC + the school thing will convince them to speed things up a bit...

Frankfurt seems to be AMAZING when it comes to processing immigrant visas and super speedy. So, for your sake I hope your expedite is approved. 

GOOD LUCK! 

[adventures 14]

1 minute ago, Fabio R S said:

When did you submit everything? I´m watching your case closely since I´m in a very similar boat.

This afternoon here in gemany...

[PGA 240]

On 4/16/2022 at 4:18 AM, adventures said:

Hi,

 

So... We have submitted our AoS using an assets only approach (this thread, if anyone is interested). With our assets we are very comfortably over the 3x min. income requirement. We just got two notes though, timestamped identically:

 

Case FE Review Note 1:

This case does not meet the minimum income requirement to sponsor the intending immigrants. To avoid delays, an additional Affidavit of Support Form I-864 from a joint sponsor may be submitted. For more information visit https://nvc.state.gov/aos. The consular officer will make a decision regarding this requirement at the time of the interview. For more information, please visit https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p.

 

Case FE Review Note 2:

Please submit XXXXX's Evidence of Income. For more information, visit https://nvc.state.gov/fin.

 

Our Status for AoS now reads: "Paid, Accepted". So We are not sure how to interpret the review notes now.. 

 

• Is submitting the above (income or/and joint sponsor) still optional and we can just wait until the DS-260 is accepted as well to get an interview appointment?
• Do we HAVE to submit anything now in order to proceed? As we don't have a US based income (yet), we cannot submit anything regarding note2 ...
• Would submitting a Joint Sponsor delay the case or help? Would we simply bring a completed form to the interview or do they want you to submit it online first?
• Should we bring a completed joint sponsor application to the interview "just in case"?

 

I have read in the following thread that this seems to be normal. But I am not sure if this still applies to us as well. Our interview would be in Germany.

 

 

I wish you the absolute best of luck with using the asset only approach, but I'd have a Plan B if I were you. I live in Peru with my wife, I have income here that will continue in the US, I also have comfortable assets over 3X (even comfortable over 5x) and all as liquid as you can get. He still gave us a 221g for a joint sponsor. 

Edited April 19, 2022 by PGA
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[Fabio R S 22]

10 minutes ago, PGA said:

I wish you the absolute best of luck with using the asset only approach, but I'd have a Plan B if I were you. I live in Peru with my wife, I have income here that will continue in the US, I also have comfortable assets over 3X (even comfortable over 5x). He still gave us a 221g for a joint sponsor. 

Did you get DQd from NVC and then had the visa refused during the interview in Peru? What happens now for your case? Did you already submit the joint sponsor information? Whats the timeline like now?

 

One more question, are your assets US based?

Edited April 19, 2022 by Fabio R S

[Fabio R S 22]

40 minutes ago, adventures said:

This afternoon here in gemany...

What are the statuses showing up for your documents now? Do the previously approved docs remain "Approved" or is everything back to "Submitted"?

[PGA 240]

16 minutes ago, Fabio R S said:

Did you get DQd from NVC and then had the visa refused during the interview in Peru? What happens now for your case? Did you already submit the joint sponsor information? Whats the timeline like now?

 

One more question, are your assets US based?

-Yes, DQ'd February 9, 2021

-Waited 2 years + for interview (+ roughly $2000)

-Interview March 31, 2022

-Wife afforded a 3 minute interview - Refused - 221g for joint sponsor - she mentioned assets but according to CO "assets are too complicated" (she told me they were handing out those green slips like candy btw) asked for her passport and canceled her tourist visa.

-Submitted joint sponsor information April 10, 2022, CEAC updated yesterday, still says Refused

-Yes, all assets are US based, largest being a savings account....not much more liquidity than that...

 

I do want to add though, every embassy is different, every CO is different. It's not really fair, but that is the way it is I guess.

 

Oh, and the timeline now is anybody's guess: weeks, months, have to do another ridiculous medical? Who knows?

Edited April 19, 2022 by PGA

[Fabio R S 22]

2 minutes ago, PGA said:

-Yes, DQ'd February 9, 2021

-Waited 2 years + for interview (+ roughly $2000)

-Interview March 31, 2022

-Wife afforded a 3 minute interview - Refused - 221g for joint sponsor - she mentioned assets but according to CO "assets are too complicated" (she told me they were handing out those green slips like candy btw) asked for her passport and canceled her tourist visa.

-Submitted joint sponsor information April 10, 2022, CEAC updated yesterday, still says Refused

-Yes, all assets are US based, largest being a savings account....not much more liquidity than that...

 

Wow, that´s unbelievable man. Sorry that you had to go through that. Hopefully the joint sponsor submission will take care of the problem but this process can be incredibly frustrating sometimes...

[adventures 14]

2 hours ago, Fabio R S said:

What are the statuses showing up for your documents now? Do the previously approved docs remain "Approved" or is everything back to "Submitted"?

Only the new documents are are shown as "Submitted", the old ones remain "Approved". Did for some poeple everything go back to "Submitted"?

[Fabio R S 22]

1 minute ago, adventures said:

Only the new documents are are shown as "Submitted", the old ones remain "Approved". Did for some poeple everything go back to "Submitted"?

No idea, I was just curious.

 

I hope you get DQd soon instead of going to the back of line (fingers crossed). Please keep us posted.

[Ashley Wallace 11]

12 hours ago, adventures said:

How long did the approval take for you when you sent the request to expedite? I am wondering if I could do the same thing and expedite the process, stating that our children already have a spot in schools and we will probably loose them if we don't manage to be there on time.. Did you mention the "silliness" of the RFE that you got in the request?

If I recall correctly, I got the nditification within a week of putting the request in.