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Pending I-751 and I-90 (USCIS GC error); What next? N400, I-551 stamp or infopass?

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I am just looking for others' experiences in figuring out this puzzle (I've searched many threads, but cannot find this combination of issues):

USCIS issued me the wrong Green card with a 10-yr expiration, when I should have received a 2-yr conditional GC (K-1 marriage less than 2-years before AOS). I realized USCIS made this 1.5 years later, and immediately filed an I-90 to correct this.  I received the NOA for the I-90, which I included in the I-751 ROC filing. I have also received the NOA for the I-751, and a confirmation letter that new biometrics are not required. 

 

Now I am entering the N400 filing window (2yr + 9mo) with BOTH a pending I-90 and I-751, and trying to figure out if I need to take any other precautionary steps before filing the N400...

Questions:

1. I-551 stamp - While I have the (incorrect) physical 10-yr GC in hand, would USCIS reject issuing an I-551 stamp?  If not, is there a benefit to requesting the I-551 in this case? Nearest USCIS location is San Francisco.
2. N400 - Are there any reasons that starting the N400 filing with pending I-751 would create problems, since the I-90 is also pending and I am still holding the incorrect 10-yr GC?
3. INFOPASS - I've read many posts here saying that Infopass resulted in conflicting or confusing information.  Is it still recommended?

I know bits and pieces of this have been discussed in many threads, but have found none discussing both pending I-90 and I-751 during N400 filing... Thank you for your thoughts!

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Timeline:

10-Mar-2017 - Sent I-129f application from Bangkok to the Texas lock box, via Thailand Post Registered Air Mail with Tracking

    <<Letter then sat for 4 weeks (!) in the USPS New York International Service Center before delivery to Texas>> 

    <<Lesson learned: Better to use DHL or FedEx for international mail to the US>>

25-Apr-2017 - NOA1 (received hard copy 2 weeks later via post)

02-Oct-2017 - NOA2 Approved

25-Oct-2017 - Received email from Embassy confirming beneficiary contact info; includes a case number.

23-Nov-2017 - Medical Exam, doctor requested sputum test for TB

26-Feb-2017 - Medical exam results delivered to Embassy (3 months for results)

06-Mar-2018 - Interview

Apr-2018 - Entry into US
Apr-2018 - Re-testing for TB required from a US provider
May-2018 - Marriage
May-2018 - Filed for AOS
Nov-2019 - AOS interview & approval; 10-yr GC received (USCIS error - should have been 2-yr conditional)
Mar-2021 - I-90 filed - We just realized that the 10-yr GC needed to be corrected
Mar-2021 - NOA for I-90 received
Aug-2021 - I-751 ROC filed
Aug-2021 - NOA for I-751 with 18-month GC extension
Oct-2021 - Another NOA for I-751 with 24-month GC extension
Jan-2022 - Letter received that new Biometrics not required
Aug-2022 - N400 filed

Aug-2022 - Letter received that new Biometrics not required

Dec-2022 - NOA received that I failed to appear at the N400 interview, but I had never received any notification of the interview date via letter nor email notification.
Apr-2023 - Naturalization Interview and Oath Ceremony! 🗽  (Total time from F1 application to Citizenship: 6 years and 1 month)

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3 hours ago, T+E said:

1. I-551 stamp - While I have the (incorrect) physical 10-yr GC in hand, would USCIS reject issuing an I-551 stamp?  If not, is there a benefit to requesting the I-551 in this case? Nearest USCIS location is San Francisco.

I don’t see a need for a stamp. Worst case when you enter a USA port of entry, CBP will confiscate the card, and give you a temporary alternative such as a stamp in your passport or a paper I-94 with a stamp.  
 

When you check in for a flight, don’t show the airline your I-751 and I-90 receipts.  Your 10 year green card is your boarding document 
 

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2. N400 - Are there any reasons that starting the N400 filing with pending I-751 would create problems, since the I-90 is also pending and I am still holding the incorrect 10-yr GC?

The I-90 has no effect and I don’t expect, now they your I-751 is pending, USCIS to ever act on your I-90.  
 

In some field offices, filing N-400 while there is a pending I-751 does slow down the process. Seattle is notorious for this. 
 

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3. INFOPASS - I've read many posts here saying that Infopass resulted in conflicting or confusing information.  Is it still recommended?

Why do you need an Infopass?

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Remember that a card is proof of status and not the status itself...

So, although your 10 year card is technically valid, in that you are indeed a lawful permanent resident and still very much in status, it is not really a valid document, as it has an erroneous expiry date.  So although you are indeed a permanent resident, you don't have that crucial clear unambiguous proof of your current status.

Many think they don't really need clear proof of your status...until they suddenly do, in which case it can be too late for something, or is hurried in an emergency. 

In your situation (and mine) I would rather have an I-551 stamp as absolute peace of mind of proof of status, rather than relying on an erroneously issued card coupled with a confusing extension letter/receipt. 

Make an infopass and get a stamp. It shouldn't be an issue in this complicated scenario. After all, the 10  year card is technically invalid, and the extension letter/receipt is useless by itself when not used in conjunction an expired 2 year card.

 

If you do want to travel internationally without getting a stamp, I would be very, very hesitant to use the 10 year card for either check in (where it will be swiped and submitted as part of the APIS) or at CBP (where it will be swiped and then verified). Their system knows you are conditional resident and it may well result in an extended and awkward visit to secondary, or worse. Will it work? Yes, in all probably it would - after all, you can even board a flight to the US with an expired 10 year card - but the one time it doesn't and it causes you massive issues you will wish you had got it sorted sooner. 

 

4 hours ago, T+E said:

2. N400 - Are there any reasons that starting the N400 filing with pending I-751 would create problems, since the I-90 is also pending and I am still holding the incorrect 10-yr GC?

No. Card is proof of status and not the status itself. You remain a LPR, and (assuming you meet the N400 criteria, AND meet the 3 year filing criteria) you remain N-400 filing eligible 

 

4 hours ago, T+E said:

3. INFOPASS - I've read many posts here saying that Infopass resulted in conflicting or confusing information. 

Conflicting, incorrect and confusing information is one thing USCIS does exceptionally well. 

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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Kudos to you for holding on to the plastic card !
I-90 was a perfect action but of course won’t get you a corrected physical replacement card since you waited 1.5 years to file it. 

 Your I-751 will move at it’s own pace .File the N-400 and you may get an interview within 6 months at which point Everything can be resolved with the push of a button. 


I absolutely agree to InfoPass and get a stamp , but just carry the I-90 receipts and I-751 Receipts with you, as they will likely keep the card. 

 

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If an info pass is granted, OP will most likely have to relinquish the 10 year green card.  
 

I definitely wouldn’t do it.  

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On 4/8/2022 at 1:57 AM, T+E said:

I am just looking for others' experiences in figuring out this puzzle (I've searched many threads, but cannot find this combination of issues):

USCIS issued me the wrong Green card with a 10-yr expiration, when I should have received a 2-yr conditional GC (K-1 marriage less than 2-years before AOS). I realized USCIS made this 1.5 years later, and immediately filed an I-90 to correct this.  I received the NOA for the I-90, which I included in the I-751 ROC filing. I have also received the NOA for the I-751, and a confirmation letter that new biometrics are not required. 

 

Now I am entering the N400 filing window (2yr + 9mo) with BOTH a pending I-90 and I-751, and trying to figure out if I need to take any other precautionary steps before filing the N400...

Questions:

1. I-551 stamp - While I have the (incorrect) physical 10-yr GC in hand, would USCIS reject issuing an I-551 stamp?  If not, is there a benefit to requesting the I-551 in this case? Nearest USCIS location is San Francisco.
2. N400 - Are there any reasons that starting the N400 filing with pending I-751 would create problems, since the I-90 is also pending and I am still holding the incorrect 10-yr GC?
3. INFOPASS - I've read many posts here saying that Infopass resulted in conflicting or confusing information.  Is it still recommended?
 

Hi, I am in a similar situation now filing I-751.

When you filed you I-751 application form, what did you fill as the expiry date of conditional status ?

 

Did you return your erroneous 10 year green card during your I-751 process?

I-751 Timeline:

Jan 12, 2022 : Sent I-751 application package via USPS

Jan 14, 2022 : Delivered to USCIS Phoenix lockbox

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On 4/9/2022 at 2:47 AM, Mike E said:

If an info pass is granted, OP will most likely have to relinquish the 10 year green card.  
 

I definitely wouldn’t do it.  

He has the wrong green card, keeping it and using it knowing it was incorrect does not bode well for "good moral character" needed for N-400...

 

I'd follow @mindthegap advice and try for a stamp - in a best case scenario you get the stamp with the validity of your I-751 extension letter which might even be bumped to 48 months if you can wait for the new one.

 

If you don't plan to change jobs or travel internationally maybe don't bother. But I would not make use of a erroneous GC knowingly.

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N-400 3 year marriage based (IOE)

Jan 22, 2024 - Submitted online 

Jan 22, 2024 - Biometrics waived

Mar 6, 2024 - Interview scheduled for Apr 11 COMBO I-751/N-400

Apr 11, 2024 - Combo interview - approved N-400

May 1, 2024 - Approved ROC, received 10 GC on May 20.

May 7, 2024 - Oath scheduled for June 14 (requested later ceremony at interview)

June 14, 2024 - Special Flag Day Oath ceremony - I'm a citizen!!!

 

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35 minutes ago, Mike E said:

“Just go get a stamp” 

 

😂

Yes? I waited 4 months to get one and was difficult and stressful so quite aware you can't "just get a stamp". It is still good advice for OP.

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N-400 3 year marriage based (IOE)

Jan 22, 2024 - Submitted online 

Jan 22, 2024 - Biometrics waived

Mar 6, 2024 - Interview scheduled for Apr 11 COMBO I-751/N-400

Apr 11, 2024 - Combo interview - approved N-400

May 1, 2024 - Approved ROC, received 10 GC on May 20.

May 7, 2024 - Oath scheduled for June 14 (requested later ceremony at interview)

June 14, 2024 - Special Flag Day Oath ceremony - I'm a citizen!!!

 

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And for four months how did you feed yourself? Drive?

 

People are literally unable to work, travel, drive despite being issued a gc 

 

You  would not use your erroneous  10 year  gc to get a DL, unrestricted SS card, travel to see a relative who needs  you?  Even after filing I-751?

 

Would refuse to use a gc with the wrong birth date, resident since date, finger print, code?

 

I’m out. 

 

 

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As per OP’s  timeline, it seems like OP got the I-751 approved and is currently in process of N-400 interview.

I-751 Timeline:

Jan 12, 2022 : Sent I-751 application package via USPS

Jan 14, 2022 : Delivered to USCIS Phoenix lockbox

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