Police Certificates? (merged)

[Zin-Zin 21]

1 minute ago, EmTi said:

But, we ended up getting a new certificate after all so thankfully when we got an RFE, we were prepared to submit the new one. 

Honestly this is what we're going to do. We're almost ready to submit. We're going to submit with letters and then go ahead and get the reports anyway, just in case! 

[Chancy 6,243]

2 minutes ago, Zin-Zin said:

So upload the letter at CEAC in lieu of the Police Report

 

Yes.  Be clear about the actual duration of stay that makes the requirement not applicable.

 

[EmTi 41]

Just now, Zin-Zin said:

Honestly this is what we're going to do. We're almost ready to submit. We're going to submit with letters and then go ahead and get the reports anyway, just in case! 

Smart. 

[Zin-Zin 21]

Just now, Chancy said:

 

Yes.  Be clear about the actual duration of stay that makes the requirement not applicable.

 

Ok, just to make sure I understand...

I"m going to upload the letter through the 'Upload Document" link as per the attached picture. Correct? 

[EmTi 41]

4 minutes ago, Chancy said:

 

Yes.  Be clear about the actual duration of stay that makes the requirement not applicable.

 

Do you also have proof of the duration of stay, for evidence? Upload some sort of proof if you have it. 

[Zin-Zin 21]

10 minutes ago, EmTi said:

Do you also have proof of the duration of stay, for evidence? Upload some sort of proof if you have it. 

I don't. The Ireland trip was 22 years ago. The South Korea trip was 15 years ago. Records of both are non-existent. Not even email itineraries from flights b/c she doesn't have that email address anymore. 

[CMJuilland 485]

I would detail everything in a letter as you and others have stated, and if you have no proof, I would also address that, e.g. the fact that 15+ years ago, we didn’t have digital copies yet for everything (I met my wife in Moscow almost 18 years ago, and while digital conversations via email were a thing back then, neither of us have any of these emails or flight reservations or even our old passports with the stamps anymore).  Provide what you have, and take it from there.  It won’t hurt to contact South Korean and Irish authorities regarding a police certificate as you already said as having it and not needing it is way better than the other way around. 

 

 

[Carpe Vinum 2,330]

22 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

6 months for country of CURRENT residence.

12 months for other countries of previous residence.

I thought it was pretty clear and has been for years))) Also, there are some countries that it is impossible to get the police certificate after you no longer live there. In that case they are waived.

[Zin-Zin 21]

24 minutes ago, Carpe Vinum said:

I thought it was pretty clear and has been for years))) Also, there are some countries that it is impossible to get the police certificate after you no longer live there. In that case they are waived.

Yes, I'm not sure why NVC is asking for a police certificate from a country in which my wife is not currently residing (and hasn't for 22 years) and when she did it was only for 7 months. 

[Zin-Zin 21]

I'm expecting to be given a checklist at NVC b/c we did not provide a requested police certificate. 

It's a place my wife lived for less than a year, but the current embassy of interview, Taipei, requires any country in which she lived more than 6 months. We are requesting to move to Paris so maybe that happens before NVC looks at our documents and this will be a moot point. 

But...we're working on getting it anyway. 

My wife stayed with me in South Korea for ~10 months. She called the embassy in Paris to get a police certificate.

And they told her no! They told her no because she was NOT a resident at the time. She went on visa runs for our time there and was a tourist the entire time. According to the Korean embassy, they do NOT give police certificates to tourists. 

How do I move forward with this?

She was told this on the phone twice, and she has already emailed them, hoping to get the rejection and reason in writing, but not sure how that will work out. 

Is there anything else we can do to show that she cannot get one? 

[Crazy Cat 42,320]

11 minutes ago, Zin-Zin said:

It's a place my wife lived for less than a year, but the current embassy of interview, Taipei, requires any country in which she lived more than 6 months.

Can you refer me to that requirement.  I am seeing something different.  Thanks.

[Zin-Zin 21]

Just now, Crazy Cat said:

Can you refer me to that requirement.  I am seeing something different.  Thanks.

Let me see if I can find it, but what are you seeing?

[Crazy Cat 42,320]

1 minute ago, Zin-Zin said:

Let me see if I can find it, but what are you seeing?

This is from our actual letter:

 

If you are older than 16 years of age: The original police certificate from your country of current
residence and countries of previous residence. If these three items are all true, you must bring a more recent
police certificate to the interview:
o He or she is older than 16 years;
o He or she obtained a police certificate and submitted it to NVC more than one year ago; and
o He or she still lives in the country that issued the police certificate.

[Zin-Zin 21]

6 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

This is from our actual letter:

 

If you are older than 16 years of age: The original police certificate from your country of current
residence and countries of previous residence. If these three items are all true, you must bring a more recent
police certificate to the interview:
o He or she is older than 16 years;
o He or she obtained a police certificate and submitted it to NVC more than one year ago; and
o He or she still lives in the country that issued the police certificate.

So this is how I arrived at the conclusion. From VisaJourney so not state.gov or AIT itself. Now, doubting what I thought to be true.

https://www.visajourney.com/consulates/index.php?ctry=Taiwan&cty=Taipei

So because she was only a tourist there, it's not residence, and therefore she does not need a police certificate, even if it was over a year? How do we prove that she was only a tourist? That passport is long gone. 

(It wasn't over a year, I'm just using that as an example to understand whether or not legal residence is the linchpin here and how we go about proving that.)

Edited May 25, 2022 by Zin-Zin

[SalishSea 18,148]

7 minutes ago, Zin-Zin said:

So this is how I arrived at the conclusion. From VisaJourney so not state.gov or AIT itself. Now, doubting what I thought to be true.

https://www.visajourney.com/consulates/index.php?ctry=Taiwan&cty=Taipei

So because she was only a tourist there, it's not residence, and therefore she does not need a police certificate, even if it was over a year? How do we prove that she was only a tourist? That passport is long gone. 

(It wasn't over a year, I'm just using that as an example to understand whether or not legal residence is the linchpin here and how we go about proving that.)

I don’t see how you’re going to get out of providing a police cert for a place she lived in for over a year.

 

Tourists go on vacations- for weeks, maybe a couple of months.   But over a year? That is actually residing there.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Jorgedig