IR1 visa NVC msg: This case does not meet the minimum income requirement to sponsor the intending immigrants.

[HCT 1]

NVC has accepted all our docs - see screenshot below - and we've paid our fees, however, we have received the following message from them:

"This case does not meet the minimum income requirement to sponsor the intending immigrants. To avoid delays, an additional Affidavit of Support Form I-864 from a joint sponsor may be submitted. For more information visit https://nvc.state.gov/aos. The consular officer will make a decision regarding this requirement at the time of the interview. For more information, please visit https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p."

 

We have enough cash in the bank to show we can meet the financial requirements for our situation. Since they said "MAY" it seems like it's optional and we should be able to turn up to an interview with proof of our cash and be fine. However, NVC haven't told us we're Documentarily Qualified, they've only given us the above message several days ago, so we're unsure where we stand. Any ideas?

Thank you

 

[JeanneAdil 6,511]

are u saying u can meet the requirements with assets according to I 864 instructions?

If so,  complete a new I 864 and submit it with proof of assets as described 

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/i-864-affidavit-faqs.html#:~:text=actual%20household%20income.-,What%20can%20be%20used%20as%20assets%3F,%2C%20stocks%2C%20bonds%20and%20property.

[S9471 60]

You are not documentarily qualified until you get that message, and they won't put you in the interview queue until you meet the requirements ("ACCEPTED" means they reviewed the docs and you filled them out correctly) - make sure you watch out for the DQ follow-up message soon. Submit an updated I-864 and follow all guidelines on what assets actually qualify, and have formal proof of income...

[HCT 1]

2 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

are u saying u can meet the requirements with assets according to I 864 instructions?

If so,  complete a new I 864 and submit it with proof of assets as described 

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/i-864-affidavit-faqs.html#:~:text=actual household income.-,What can be used as assets%3F,%2C stocks%2C bonds and property.

Yes, we meet the requirements with cash assets. However, we met the requirements with my wife's salary which was more than enough, but they haven't accepted that, even though we provided recent paychecks. We didn't include cash assets in the I-864 as that section was optional and we could see we easily met the income requirements. It seems now that we should have done. So now I'm wondering if we should submit a new I-864, or just submit a note explaining the situation and evidence of the cash in the bank?

[carmel34 3,633]

1 hour ago, HCT said:

Yes, we meet the requirements with cash assets. However, we met the requirements with my wife's salary which was more than enough, but they haven't accepted that, even though we provided recent paychecks. We didn't include cash assets in the I-864 as that section was optional and we could see we easily met the income requirements. It seems now that we should have done. So now I'm wondering if we should submit a new I-864, or just submit a note explaining the situation and evidence of the cash in the bank?

They may have judged your wife's salary history to be borderline.  Even if a sponsor's current salary is over the stated minimum, they consider the totality of the circumstances, including factors like how long she has had her current job, tax returns, pay stubs, letter from employer, where you will live in the US, age of beneficiary and need for medical care, all kinds of things.  I recommend that your wife do a new I-864 and include her cash assets with documentation to show that they are liquid, and upload it today to NVC.  Also take everything to the interview.  Good luck!

Edited March 29, 2022 by carmel34

[pushbrk 12,898]

Based on how you describe your wife's current income and having sufficient liquid assets, I would ignore the message and carry on.

[HCT 1]

11 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Based on how you describe your wife's current income and having sufficient liquid assets, I would ignore the message and carry on.

Thanks, but what does 'carry on' mean? What if we wait and they don't do anything? The message is so vague that we're worried they may be waiting for us to do something.

[pushbrk 12,898]

3 minutes ago, HCT said:

Thanks, but what does 'carry on' mean? What if we wait and they don't do anything? The message is so vague that we're worried they may be waiting for us to do something.

They aren't.  Carry on, in this context, simply means carry on with your life as if no such message applies to you.  If the income is real and US based and the assets are real, liquid, and sufficient, it means nothing to you.  Millionaires get this message and ignore it.  It's a boilerplate message sent to everybody who doesn't have qualifying income shown on their most recent tax return.

[Lil bear 4,219]

5 hours ago, S9471 said:

You are not documentarily qualified until you get that message, and they won't put you in the interview queue until you meet the requirements ("ACCEPTED" means they reviewed the docs and you filled them out correctly) - make sure you watch out for the DQ follow-up message soon. Submit an updated I-864 and follow all guidelines on what assets actually qualify, and have formal proof of income...

In this case, the notice is advising that the application is considered complete and will be sent to the Consulate … and the consulate will decide if a joint sponsor is needed. This is exactly the NVC message that we received.. if the applicant was required to upload further documents to CEAC to complete the application, then the wording would have said so. We chose to have a joint sponsor in place just in case.. snd carried their I864 documents to tge interview .. the IO decided that our petitioner did meet the requirements. Having the joint paperwork in hand meant that, had the decision betn made that we needed a joint sponsor, we would have been able to have that approved at the time of interview. No delay.  

Edited March 29, 2022 by Lil bear

[HCT 1]

9 minutes ago, Lil bear said:

In this case, the notice is advising that the application is considered complete and will be sent to the Consulate … and the consulate will decide if a joint sponsor is needed. This is exactly the NVC message that we received.. if the applicant was required to upload further documents to CEAC to complete the application, then the wording would have said so. We chose to have a joint sponsor in place just in case.. snd carried their I864 documents to tge interview .. the IO decided that our petitioner did meet the requirements. Having the joint paperwork in hand meant that, had the decision betn made that we needed a joint sponsor, we would have been able to have that approved at the time of interview. No delay.  

That was our original interpretation of it, but they have not sent us a message to say we are "documentarily qualified" which I thought was what they did next. Did you get that?

[HCT 1]

23 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

They aren't.  Carry on, in this context, simply means carry on with your life as if no such message applies to you.  If the income is real and US based and the assets are real, liquid, and sufficient, it means nothing to you.  Millionaires get this message and ignore it.  It's a boilerplate message sent to everybody who doesn't have qualifying income shown on their most recent tax return.

Oh oh, "US based" - we live in the UK so it's not. However, my wife is looking at moving to the US ahead of me so she would get a US income probably by the time we get an interview.

[Lil bear 4,219]

8 minutes ago, HCT said:

That was our original interpretation of it, but they have not sent us a message to say we are "documentarily qualified" which I thought was what they did next. Did you get that?

The USCIS case status may or may not  get updated.  Your interpretation was correct .. 

[pushbrk 12,898]

Just now, Lil bear said:

The USCIS case status may or may not  get updated.  Your interpretation was correct .. 

This case is at NVC.  USCIS is not involved anymore.

[pushbrk 12,898]

1 minute ago, HCT said:

Oh oh, "US based" - we live in the UK so it's not. However, my wife is looking at moving to the US ahead of me so she would get a US income probably by the time we get an interview.

If you stated her income from the UK as any number other than zero, then you did incorrectly.  However, if you documented liquid assets of well over 3 times the income requirement, then relax.

 

DQ, ....IS...the next thing they do, but the timeline on that is unpredictable.  It's not connected with any actions related to the notice you quoted.

[HCT 1]

2 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

If you stated her income from the UK as any number other than zero, then you did incorrectly.  However, if you documented liquid assets of well over 3 times the income requirement, then relax.

 

DQ, ....IS...the next thing they do, but the timeline on that is unpredictable.  It's not connected with any actions related to the notice you quoted.

OK, we put UK income equivalent to US$56000. Sounds like we should complete a revised I-864 with our assets (over 5x the 125% poverty line for our situation) detailed (they weren't on the original) and take that to the interview.