Puzzled! How to bring family member to the US?

[Boiler 46,312]

Think of it as a temporary passport, it will get him home.

[iwannaplay54 985]

6 hours ago, John79 said:

Tourist. Not even sure how he is able to stay there without having his passport stamped every 90 days.

He has to leave to get his passport stamped.

Something’s strange about your brother’s situation.

My father in law sits on the central bank board in Indonesia.  Even I can’t stay there that long and that’s with a valid passport 😂

Edited March 23, 2022 by iwannaplay54

[iwannaplay54 985]

8 hours ago, John79 said:

I am pretty certain I can get him here in no time with a B-1/B-2 tourist Visa but the issue rely on the Moroccan gov releasing his ID and Passport (that we do not know how to solve)! Thank you again!

And how are you going to do this?  Dying to know 😂

[Redro 4,612]

3 hours ago, iwannaplay54 said:

He has to leave to get his passport stamped.

Something’s strange about your brother’s situation.

My father in law sits on the central bank board in Indonesia.  Even I can’t stay there that long and that’s with a valid passport 😂

Quick look at rules in Indonesia show you're only allowed to extend a tourist visa 4 times. 

They were also only extending emergency stay permits for 30 days at a time (in early 2020).

Most countries do not like to extend visas to foreign nationals holding expired passports. 

You and your brother should be investigating how to get him back to Morocco. 

Not sure if overstaying in one country will impact your ability to acquire a tourist visa in the US but I wouldn't bet on your brother being successful if he applies from Indonesia. 

 

[SalishSea 18,225]

4 hours ago, iwannaplay54 said:

And how are you going to do this?  Dying to know 😂

Something about this entire story just doesn't add up.....

[JeanneAdil 6,707]

7 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

Something about this entire story just doesn't add up.....

Even Moroc offered a way to get moroccans back home in early months of covid

 

and this person needed to renew the passport and ID before they expired 

In 2020 Moroc shut down goverment offices and travel from city to city

the borders just opened up

For renewal of National ID outside Moroc

He either takes the one way trip back as the instructions say to renew both of these of the following to renew his National ID 

u have the answers / tell him

 he is an adult 

Application for renewal of Moroccan National Identity Card

 

Renewal of Identity card:

Required documents:

1. Copy of the Registration Card ;
2. Original of expired National Identity Card ;go 
3. Copy of certificate of Evidence of residence status ;
4. Copy of official document indicating residential address ;
5. Four (4) photographs ( 3.5 cm x 4.5 cm ) ( See document about the size );
6. Birth certificate (in Arabic and in French) issued within the last six months or copy of the family book;

 

OR  go the easy way and let him get deported 

Edited March 23, 2022 by JeanneAdil

[John79 6]

23 hours ago, iwannaplay54 said:

Don’t know Morocco, but I do know the CO’s in Indonesia.  This isn’t going to happen.

 

Yeah.  You can try but from the US embassy in Indo or Bali consulate?  Not a prayer.  Just being realistic dude.

 

Take a trip.  Bali’s a fantastic place to visit 👍

Hi Thanks for the comment. My pays a penalty of $175 a month to the immigration for overstaying in Indo. He does have a receipt of when he submitted his paperwork and a conversation with immigration as well.

[John79 6]

On 3/22/2022 at 12:30 PM, Misscloud said:

 

its hard to do, very bureaucratic, i dont even think he can because he need to have sponsor for that. 

even for foreigner who wants to live in indonesia and married with indonesian, its a long and winding road  and very expensive, have to use agent and some regulation its not even clear ( every city sometimes added different rule)

 

best bet perhaps keep pushing the embassy in jakarta

Thank you for the comment! my brother have to pay a penalty of $175 a month to the immigration for overstaying; it's terrible!

[John79 6]

On 3/22/2022 at 12:34 PM, Boiler said:

You mentioned he is not a resident in Indonesia so what basis is he there?

He is there as a tourist and is paying a penalty of $175 a month immigration for overstaying. Covid-19 lock down happened when he landed there.

[John79 6]

On 3/22/2022 at 1:25 PM, Jorgedig said:

Very, very unlikely he will get a B visa.

 

If you want him to live in the US, you need to petition him for an immigrant visa.

 

Otherwise, you'll just have to visit him.

I'm pretty certain I can get him here with a B-1/B-2 (10 year visa!)

[John79 6]

On 3/22/2022 at 1:27 PM, Jorgedig said:

It is clear you don't understand this process.

 

There is no "getting" him here with a B visa.  You have no part in someone's application for that.  He applies and his application is adjudicated based on his risk of overstay, which is high based on his lack of ties to home.  Anyone with $160 can apply, but simply renewing his Moroccan passport is not going to get him a US visa.

We are planning on filing the appropriate form and I do get that he has to do that on his side (I can also access the site and fill in some info as well) - Getting him in with a visitor Visa is not going to be an issue (I do get the issue with ties to his country and all that stuff, we aren't worried about that) - The reason I keep saying that is that my little brother have travel everywhere around the globe and never had any issues overstaying or getting in any kind of trouble except when he couldn't leave Bali because of COVID. Hope this make sense to you now..

[John79 6]

On 3/22/2022 at 1:57 PM, John79 said:

Tourist. Not even sure how he is able to stay there without having his passport stamped every 90 days.

He is paying a monthly penalty of $175 a month while waiting for his paperwork to arrive!

[John79 6]

11 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

Even Moroc offered a way to get moroccans back home in early months of covid

 

and this person needed to renew the passport and ID before they expired 

In 2020 Moroc shut down goverment offices and travel from city to city

the borders just opened up

For renewal of National ID outside Moroc

He either takes the one way trip back as the instructions say to renew both of these of the following to renew his National ID 

u have the answers / tell him

 he is an adult 

Application for renewal of Moroccan National Identity Card

 

Renewal of Identity card:

Required documents:

1. Copy of the Registration Card ;
2. Original of expired National Identity Card ;go 
3. Copy of certificate of Evidence of residence status ;
4. Copy of official document indicating residential address ;
5. Four (4) photographs ( 3.5 cm x 4.5 cm ) ( See document about the size );
6. Birth certificate (in Arabic and in French) issued within the last six months or copy of the family book;

 

OR  go the easy way and let him get deported 

My brother have no intentions to going back to Morocco for this exact same reason and how he is being treated. Thanks for the comment

[Boiler 46,312]

1 minute ago, John79 said:

We are planning on filing the appropriate form and I do get that he has to do that on his side (I can also access the site and fill in some info as well) - Getting him in with a visitor Visa is not going to be an issue (I do get the issue with ties to his country and all that stuff, we aren't worried about that) - The reason I keep saying that is that my little brother have travel everywhere around the globe and never had any issues overstaying or getting in any kind of trouble except when he couldn't leave Bali because of COVID. Hope this make sense to you now..

So where is he going to apply for a US B Visa taking into account he has no passport, is not going home and seems to tick all the boxes for a denial.

[John79 6]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

So where is he going to apply for a US B Visa taking into account he has no passport, is not going home and seems to tick all the boxes for a denial.

Once he gets his new ID and passport sent back to Indo from Morocco he will apply for a U.S visa in Jakarta. I have already spoken to them. Is this helpful?