Mom says she, toddler booted from plane

[Nagishkaw 510]

Make it into a movie and call it, ' Throw Mamma from the Plane ' .

[KarenCee 3]

That might be true to some extent, but how many toddlers do you know sit still like an adult would in any given situation? Having the child on the set wasn't exactly smart on the part of the network either, unless their ulterior motive was to portray this child as "unruly". Just from the facts that are known about this situation it still appears that the FA was highly unprofessional and made inappropriate comments/accusations.

[JoeMama 0]

Make it into a movie and call it, ' Throw Mamma from the Plane ' .

You crack me up GM! A week later, I'm still laughing about that "A rolling chopf##k gathers no moss" about lamaty!

Edited July 14, 2007 by JoeMama

[Cantankerous 0]

The flight attendant was wrong.

I travel for work and I’ll take the noisy child over the smelly guy anytime…

[Nagishkaw 510]

I think it's the other way around, GF. It's YOU who cracks me up.

[mawilson 2,133]

I think all babies should be medicated before they are allowed on a plane.

[sereia 0]

I think all babies should be medicated before they are allowed on a plane.

yeah...just like most animals are.

[mawilson 2,133]

I think all babies should be medicated before they are allowed on a plane.

yeah...just like most animals are.

Exactly.

[Marilyn. 340]

so we are comparing babies to animals now??

[jundp 191]

I think all babies should be medicated before they are allowed on a plane.

Heck, I like to be medicated before I get on a plane.

FWIW, I've flown with both my kids, starting when my oldest was 6 months. I've never had a problem EVER with a flight attendant or another passenger. And my kids weren't always quiet and perfect. But it is annoying when a parent just ignores a child's rude or unruly behavior. That doesn't mean this FA should have spoken the way she did. Suggesting that the mother drug the kid? You may think that, but good lord woman, don't say it! JMHO.

[Twomoles 8]

OMG how sick and cruel. I read and wonder. She/he flight attendant is some idiot with problems.

Baby maybe would bother me, but these are things what happen.

Then ok, lets trap all mums and babies in home so they don't fly, don't go anywhere, because it can be to laud and to bothering, so its not so comfortable...

Some people are ready to change any humanity and forget anything in name for their selfish comfort. And this comfort is worth to drop out mum with baby. Really sick.

[mawilson 2,133]

so we are comparing babies to animals now??

Yes, we are. Yes, we are.

[Ladylethal 12]

This case was ridiculous, but there's also sometimes where the parents are lenient.

I've travelled with a kid jumping in the seat behind me, kicking the back of seat so hard I couldn't relax. I talked the mother who did nothing, the kid kicked at my back for about 2 hours, no matter how many times I looked back to express it was bothering me. Worst, the kid was actually doing it on purpose, as she was laughing that I had to keep taking my back off the chair, and laughing when her mother told her to stop. After 2 times that the mother asked her to stop, she gave up and went back to reading her magazine, and let the kid have her way. The kid was around 6 and old enough to obey her mother.

I'd have taken her off the seat, distract her with something else, dunno, but I wouldn't let my kid disturb another passenger.

Crying babies is one thing (although I won't accept crying babies in the movies, if you don't have a sitter, a family member, someone to stay with the baby, please watch your movies on DVD until you can actually take the kid to the cinema without them screaming their lungs out), but obnoxious kids is something else. My mom has never let us misbehave in the streets. We tried it once, and learned our lesson (not by being spanked, just so you know), and if we ever even threatened to misbehave, one look from my mom was enough. We never made scandals in stores to get toys, or thrown things in the market 'cus we wanted cookies, etc.

One other bad experience I had was traveling by bus, a mother with a baby in the seat next to me, and the mom decided to change the diaper of the baby in the bus, by my side, and she didn't really have a bag to put to dirty diaper away so it was just folded and placed on the floor by her feet, full of baby smelly poo (mothers here should know how smelly baby poo can get). To top it off, we got stuck in a jam for about 2 1/2 hours, with that diaper stinking worse every minute. Argh! I just wanted to breath (the mom had the window closed 'cus of the baby).

[kittykatwoman 0]

This case was ridiculous, but there's also sometimes where the parents are lenient.

I've travelled with a kid jumping in the seat behind me, kicking the back of seat so hard I couldn't relax. I talked the mother who did nothing, the kid kicked at my back for about 2 hours, no matter how many times I looked back to express it was bothering me. Worst, the kid was actually doing it on purpose, as she was laughing that I had to keep taking my back off the chair, and laughing when her mother told her to stop. After 2 times that the mother asked her to stop, she gave up and went back to reading her magazine, and let the kid have her way. The kid was around 6 and old enough to obey her mother.

I'd have taken her off the seat, distract her with something else, dunno, but I wouldn't let my kid disturb another passenger.

Crying babies is one thing (although I won't accept crying babies in the movies, if you don't have a sitter, a family member, someone to stay with the baby, please watch your movies on DVD until you can actually take the kid to the cinema without them screaming their lungs out), but obnoxious kids is something else. My mom has never let us misbehave in the streets. We tried it once, and learned our lesson (not by being spanked, just so you know), and if we ever even threatened to misbehave, one look from my mom was enough. We never made scandals in stores to get toys, or thrown things in the market 'cus we wanted cookies, etc.

One other bad experience I had was traveling by bus, a mother with a baby in the seat next to me, and the mom decided to change the diaper of the baby in the bus, by my side, and she didn't really have a bag to put to dirty diaper away so it was just folded and placed on the floor by her feet, full of baby smelly poo (mothers here should know how smelly baby poo can get). To top it off, we got stuck in a jam for about 2 1/2 hours, with that diaper stinking worse every minute. Argh! I just wanted to breath (the mom had the window closed 'cus of the baby).

Ditto!!!

I'm tired of the situations that you just discribed. I was in the same situation a little while ago at the restaurant this time. I was on a date with my husband, we didn't go out since March because we work too much even on the week ends, so we made a big deal of this time we could spend together. We dressed up and went to the restaurant.

We start to eat and enjoy our evening when 2 women and a 5 year old kid get there. The waitress gave them a spot 4/5 tables apart from us. The kid was wondering around, staring at everybody and ask questions and play on the floor next to our feet and so on.

First it was kinda cute (for other poeple, I feared the worst as soon as the kid got in the restaurant) and it became extremely annoyig and irritating when I couldn't have a conversation with my husband because some kid would stay at the end of the table and stare. I asked the kid to leave and he was like "no, I won't" and then laughing. Because I was not fawning all over him he was trying his thing at some other tables, a few were responsive but a few were not either.

Guess what his mother was too busy tchitchating with her friend and was calling him randomly once in a while. I asked the waitress to tell her about it that her kid is annoying customers and the thing I heard was "they don't understand". The waitress was obvioulsy annoyed too because kiddo was an obstacle many time to serve the plates. She called her kid and he started to cry and it all looked like WE (by we i mean, the people in the restaurant annoyed by a kid that should NOT be in a fancy restaurant in the first place unless he behaves because his parents make him...), we were the bad guys. The kid was obliged to sit next to his mom and he was unhappy about it and was making it clear to everybody. A real nightmare.

Countless time I go to the movies, to the restaurants or any social situation where kids have to be the center of attention.

To be honnest I've never seen so much misbehaving kids in my entire life!!!! And I don't talk about the parents that drag their kids wherever they feel like so you have a baby crying while you watch a R movie at the theatre... Now we always hear that asking parents to make their kids behave or to remind them that a kid doesn't belong to the restaurant or the movies or parties is selfish because we don't know, we don't have kids, it's so hard and this and that. Honnestly I don't want to hear any complaints about how hard it is to have kids, having babies is a choice. I just notice the new generation of parents (in America) never think they are selfish by forcing their kids on others.

Back to the topic. I really think there is something this lady won't tell.

[homesick_american 1]

That's true, but before I delayed a flight (if I was the pilot), I would want more information. But you are right, there's no telling what she told the pilots. For that matter, we've only heard the passenger's side of the story. But if she indeed told the her story correctly and I was another passenger on that plane, you can bet that I would complain very loudly that my flight was held up for no realistic reason.

Once a concern has been raised by an FA, a lot of times the company's guidelines or even federal law requires the pilot to act in a certain way and it's entirely possible that if he had not returned to the gate, he could have lost his job or even been fined. One of my cousins is an executive at Southwest and flew for 30 years before that, so I could ask him what he would have done in this situation.