Permanent alien resident card?

[smileysjs 3]

So a friend of mine from Germany has an alien permanent resident card. It’s so old that it doesn’t have an expiration date. She said it’s been a few years since she’s been to Germany and she doesn’t know if her permanent resident card is still good or if policies have changed. She said she always got hassled over it when traveling because a lot of people have never heard of a card not having an expiration date. She’s also in her 60’s and doesn’t want to renew if she doesn’t have to. So I’m asking if this card is still good and if so is there a way to streamline the process when traveling?

[Mike E 11,742]

Legally it is acceptable for travel.

 

See https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/2019 Carrier Information Guide - ENGLISH.pdf

 

pdf page 37 (page 29 listed on footer)

 

She should print this guide and bring it to the airport.  
 

She should also print: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Dec/Reminder- LPR Boarding 20210305.pdf and demand the airline call the CBP phone number on the document. 

Edited March 16, 2022 by Mike E

[Mike E 11,742]

See also 

 

Alas this memo came too late for me and CBP coerced me into getting my first 10 year green card. 

Edited March 16, 2022 by Mike E

[JeanneAdil 6,606]

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/B2en.pdf

 

page 1

 

If your card does not have any expiration date on the front, then you have a very old version. Most old versions are no longer valid. Even if your card does not have an expiration date on it, we recommend you apply to renew it.

[Lil bear 4,276]

1 hour ago, JeanneAdil said:

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/B2en.pdf

 

page 1

 

If your card does not have any expiration date on the front, then you have a very old version. Most old versions are no longer valid. Even if your card does not have an expiration date on it, we recommend you apply to renew it.

Not necessary to renew and pay $$$ if it was issued between 1979 and 1989 as per above memo ..  bit this one is 2008.. .. has been another ruling issued .. anyone know? 

Edited March 16, 2022 by Lil bear

[Mike E 11,742]

1 hour ago, JeanneAdil said:

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/B2en.pdf

 

page 1

 

If your card does not have any expiration date on the front, then you have a very old version. Most old versions are no longer valid. Even if your card does not have an expiration date on it, we recommend you apply to renew it.

Of course USCIS wants revenue.  And what you’ve quoted is factually not true. 
 

The law is law.  

20 minutes ago, Lil bear said:

Not necessary to renew and pay $$$ if it was issued between 1979 and 1989 as per above memo ..  bit this one is 2008.. .. has been another ruling issued .. anyone know? 

 

https://help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-75?language=en_US

 

 

Edited March 16, 2022 by Mike E

[smileysjs 3]

Yes what’s confusing is both yes and no answers are on uscis’ website. 
 

she says it’s a hassle sometimes because agents have never seen these cards and want to verify it’s real and how to process them. Meanwhile she needs to hurry to get to her flight. 

[Mike E 11,742]

2 hours ago, smileysjs said:

Yes what’s confusing is both yes and no answers are on uscis’ website. 
 

she says it’s a hassle sometimes because agents have never seen these cards and want to verify it’s real and how to process them. Meanwhile she needs to hurry to get to her flight. 

USCIS isn’t at the airport or at the port of entry. 

[JeanneAdil 6,606]

11 hours ago, Mike E said:

Of course USCIS wants revenue.  And what you’ve quoteis factually not true. 
 

The law is law.  

 

https://help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-75?language=en_US

 

 

if not true then why on the government site ?   

and no one wants to spend extra money but i do believe USCIS charges and charges sometimes 

 

[Mike E 11,742]

11 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

if not true then why on the government site ?

To produce revenue.  
 

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/uscis-will-issue-redesigned-green-cards-and-employment-authorization-documents

 

“Some older Green Cards do not have an expiration date.  These older Green Cards without an expiration date remain valid.”

 

Quote

 

 

and no one wants to spend extra money but i do believe USCIS charges and charges sometimes 

 

USCIS is claiming that most people with green cards that have no expiration date legally need to replace their green cards.  That is factually false.  Most people with such green cards got theirs in the late 1970s to late 1980s and so that’s on the order of ten million of us.  
 

OP’s friend’s green card is valid.  

Edited March 16, 2022 by Mike E

[JeanneAdil 6,606]

3 minutes ago, Mike E said:

To produce revenue.  
 

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/uscis-will-issue-redesigned-green-cards-and-employment-authorization-documents

 

“Some older Green Cards do not have an expiration date.  These older Green Cards without an expiration date remain valid.”

 

USCIS is claiming that most people with green cards that have no expiration date legally need to replace their green cards.  That is factually false.  Most people with such green cards got theirs in the late 1970s to late 1980s and so that’s on the order of ten million of us.  
 

OP’s friend’s green card is valid.  

I see   thanks