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[thai2luv 0]

Previously, we were able to go into our profile,or another VJer,and bring up all posts from the past four weeks. It seems that option is no longer available, or I 'm just not seeing it. Ayone know how to bring our previous posts?

[Yodrak 7]

Ken,

I don't know where to find such a certificate, to my knowledge there is no such 'official' form in Thailand for Thai people. There is a certification form required by the Thai government of foreigners who want to marry in Thailand - for Americans it can be obtained from the US consulate and be notarized by a US consular officer.

Something of that nature may be required of someone who is foolish enough to let it be known they've had a Thai wedding ceremony and someone such as a US consular official or USCIS officer wants to be sure that they're not married.

Yodrak

me,

All forms from packet 3 on what web site? This one has some of the packet 3 material that is not on the embassy web site

< http://web.archive.org/web/20040323211559/...003/catalog.htm >

With regard to Krabi, you may be having a big wedding but you are not getting married. It's an important distinction to make when a K1 visa is involved. Scratch the word 'marriage' and its derivatives from your vocabulary until after you are back in the USA and really have gotten married. And for heaven's sake, no wedding rings going through the POE.

Yodrak

Remember I told you guys that the lady in window 5 would not give my fiance, Wi, packet 3? It turns out that she did take Wi's DS230 part1 form, a copy of her passport and two passport size photos that day. She still has not recieved a copy of packet 3 in the mail from the embassy, but oddly enough, she did recieve a letter confirming an interview date! March 17th, 2006 !

Can we do this without receiving packet 3 from embassy?

Is this a new way?

I have downloaded the checklist and all forms for packet 3 that are posted on the web site. I have sent her my I-134 form along with all required documents a

nd letters. We have paid the 4000 baht at the post office and recieved the police information. All she needs is her doctors visit.

Has anyone had this happen to them?

Our one year anniversery is March 25th 2006, and we have made huge wedding plans to get married in Krabi on that day. With or without visa! ,,,,,To get an interview date one week before our wedding is truly fantastic!!!

Yodrak,

Have you heard of a "single certificate" that must be provided in the interview? I'm reading from that link you posted and he's got something called:

"Single Certificate (Official Document Certifying Marriage Status For The Fiancé(e)) " on the site but says he doesn't know where to get it.

Has anyone had to provide this or does anyone know if it might be asked for?

[chivasgeo 0]

me,

All forms from packet 3 on what web site? This one has some of the packet 3 material that is not on the embassy web site

< http://web.archive.org/web/20040323211559/...003/catalog.htm >

With regard to Krabi, you may be having a big wedding but you are not getting married. It's an important distinction to make when a K1 visa is involved. Scratch the word 'marriage' and its derivatives from your vocabulary until after you are back in the USA and really have gotten married. And for heaven's sake, no wedding rings going through the POE.

Yodrak

Remember I told you guys that the lady in window 5 would not give my fiance, Wi, packet 3? It turns out that she did take Wi's DS230 part1 form, a copy of her passport and two passport size photos that day. She still has not recieved a copy of packet 3 in the mail from the embassy, but oddly enough, she did recieve a letter confirming an interview date! March 17th, 2006 !

Can we do this without receiving packet 3 from embassy?

Is this a new way?

I have downloaded the checklist and all forms for packet 3 that are posted on the web site. I have sent her my I-134 form along with all required documents and letters. We have paid the 4000 baht at the post office and recieved the police information. All she needs is her doctors visit.

Has anyone had this happen to them?

Our one year anniversery is March 25th 2006, and we have made huge wedding plans to get married in Krabi on that day. With or without visa! ,,,,,To get an interview date one week before our wedding is truly fantastic!!!

Yodrak,

Have you heard of a "single certificate" that must be provided in the interview? I'm reading from that link you posted and he's got something called:

"Single Certificate (Official Document Certifying Marriage Status For The Fiancé(e)) " on the site but says he doesn't know where to get it.

Has anyone had to provide this or does anyone know if it might be asked for?

I've read other's experiences that there are times when the CO will ask for the applicant to get a statement /document from the local amphur stating she is single and/or has not registered a marriage.

I am not sure what will provoke the CO to request such a document, perhaps what Yodrak mentioned (quoted below) may provoke such requests.

Something of that nature may be required of someone who is foolish enough to let it be known they've had a Thai wedding ceremony and someone such as a US consular official or USCIS officer wants to be sure that they're not married.

Having read what others have gone thru and as a precaution....I had my wife (when she still in the K-1 process) I had her go to her local amphur and get such a statement.

But at the interview, it was never asked for.....hope this helps.

regards,

George

[ufkenmill 0]

So your current wife went to the local amphur and got a statement. Do you remember what this statement is called in thai? Also, what office for the amphur did you go to? I believe there's a records office near my fiance's parent's mooban that might give out these types of certificates but I'm not sure.

Thanks for your help..

me,

All forms from packet 3 on what web site? This one has some of the packet 3 material that is not on the embassy web site

< http://web.archive.org/web/20040323211559/...003/catalog.htm >

With regard to Krabi, you may be having a big wedding but you are not getting married. It's an important distinction to make when a K1 visa is involved. Scratch the word 'marriage' and its derivatives from your vocabulary until after you are back in the USA and really have gotten married. And for heaven's sake, no wedding rings going through the POE.

Yodrak

Remember I told you guys that the lady in window 5 would not give my fiance, Wi, packet 3? It turns out that she did take Wi's DS230 part1 form, a copy of her passport and two passport size photos that day. She still has not recieved a copy of packet 3 in the mail from the embassy, but oddly enough, she did recieve a letter confirming an interview date! March 17th, 2006 !

Can we do this without receiving packet 3 from embassy?

Is this a new way?

I have downloaded the checklist and all forms for packet 3 that are posted on the web site. I have sent her my I-134 form along with all required documents and letters. We have paid the 4000 baht at the post office and recieved the police information. All she needs is her doctors visit.

Has anyone had this happen to them?

Our one year anniversery is March 25th 2006, and we have made huge wedding plans to get married in Krabi on that day. With or without visa! ,,,,,To get an interview date one week before our wedding is truly fantastic!!!

Yodrak,

Have you heard of a "single certificate" that must be provided in the interview? I'm reading from that link you posted and he's got something called:

"Single Certificate (Official Document Certifying Marriage Status For The Fiancé(e)) " on the site but says he doesn't know where to get it.

Has anyone had to provide this or does anyone know if it might be asked for?

I've read other's experiences that there are times when the CO will ask for the applicant to get a statement /document from the local amphur stating she is single and/or has not registered a marriage.

I am not sure what will provoke the CO to request such a document, perhaps what Yodrak mentioned (quoted below) may provoke such requests.

Something of that nature may be required of someone who is foolish enough to let it be known they've had a Thai wedding ceremony and someone such as a US consular official or USCIS officer wants to be sure that they're not married.

Having read what others have gone thru and as a precaution....I had my wife (when she still in the K-1 process) I had her go to her local amphur and get such a statement.

But at the interview, it was never asked for.....hope this helps.

regards,

George

Edited February 6, 2006 by ufkenmill

[Melia11 0]

Hi, I have a little question.

Our Packet 3 was recieved by the embassy in Bangkok on Jan 25.

Since I'm sponsoring a cambodian, I'm supposed to recieve packet 4. It's been over a week already, and from all the different timelines on VJ, it seems like recieving a interview date shouldn't take this long. I'm pretty sure that all the paperwork is correct.

Do you guys think that maybe there might have been something wrong or should I just wait it out some more?

I'm actually a little worried I sent it off to the wrong adress, on VJ the adress says it is:

120/22 Wireless Road

Bangkok

Thailand

Yet, the adress from packet 3 was sent from "95 Wireless Rd." which is where I returned the packet to, did I just send it off to the wrong place?

[chivasgeo 0]

So your current wife went to the local amphur and got a statement. Do you remember what this statement is called in thai? Also, what office for the amphur did you go to? I believe there's a records office near my fiance's parent's mooban that might give out these types of certificates but I'm not sure.

Thanks for your help..

ufkenmill,

I believe my wife went to the same amphur that issues the house registration documents for her and her parents. I am not sure what this document is called in thai, but when I get home I'll ask my wife for more details and also possibly attach that document for all to see.

regards,

George

[dbirner 0]

ken was your fiance ever married before? If not, then she does not need that certificate you are thinking of. It is only for people that were previously married.

Dan

Hi, I have a little question.

Our Packet 3 was recieved by the embassy in Bangkok on Jan 25.

Since I'm sponsoring a cambodian, I'm supposed to recieve packet 4. It's been over a week already, and from all the different timelines on VJ, it seems like recieving a interview date shouldn't take this long. I'm pretty sure that all the paperwork is correct.

Do you guys think that maybe there might have been something wrong or should I just wait it out some more?

I'm actually a little worried I sent it off to the wrong adress, on VJ the adress says it is:

120/22 Wireless Road

Bangkok

Thailand

Yet, the adress from packet 3 was sent from "95 Wireless Rd." which is where I returned the packet to, did I just send it off to the wrong place?

Try calling the consulate. They may just give you the date over the phone.

[skyman2112 0]

So your current wife went to the local amphur and got a statement. Do you remember what this statement is called in thai? Also, what office for the amphur did you go to? I believe there's a records office near my fiance's parent's mooban that might give out these types of certificates but I'm not sure.

Thanks for your help..

Hey ufkenmill, the local amphur will know what to do for the statement. My wife got one for more evidence to prove she was single and the embassy accepted it no problem. Good luck, Kirk and Jenny

[Pom Kid Thung Khun Krap 0]

C.J.'s personal courier service is on its way tomorrow morning!

Well as luck would have it we ran into a problem. The I-134 form I sent had a few small problems my address says 2400 and not 4200. I also left a letter off of Su's name. Is this a big problem? If so what is the best way to get the corrected form to her? Or should we play stupid? Please help

Have to agree, get a new I-134 together, get it notarized, and ship it there the fastest way possible. Granted, it may be overlooked, but why take the chance.

As I reported earlier we found a problem with our I-134 and needed to get a new one to BKK asap. So to the rescue came C.J. I was able to fedex him my new forms and he will take it to Su on the day of her and Jum's interview. I owe him a large a very large drink with a umbrella. Thanks C.J. for everything.

Good luck on the 7th

Ray

[samsbs 0]

Hi, I have a little question.

Our Packet 3 was recieved by the embassy in Bangkok on Jan 25.

Since I'm sponsoring a cambodian, I'm supposed to recieve packet 4. It's been over a week already, and from all the different timelines on VJ, it seems like recieving a interview date shouldn't take this long. I'm pretty sure that all the paperwork is correct.

Do you guys think that maybe there might have been something wrong or should I just wait it out some more?

I'm actually a little worried I sent it off to the wrong adress, on VJ the adress says it is:

120/22 Wireless Road

Bangkok

Thailand

Yet, the adress from packet 3 was sent from "95 Wireless Rd." which is where I returned the packet to, did I just send it off to the wrong place?

chynco

I think it took around two week or a little longer to get packet 4 from BNK. It is mailed snail mail and that takes at least two weeks, so I wouldn't start worrying just yet. You will have plenty of time to get everything together and get it back to Cambodia. Are you going to the interview? If you want a list of what to get together let me know I will be glad to help in any way.

[Yodrak 7]

Dan,

I suspect just the opposite - a 'singles certificate' such as Ken is asking about would be needed only for a person who claims not to have been married. The certificate for a person who has been married is quite common - it's called a divorce certificate.

Which reminds me of an example situation that I think was reported here on VJ a month or two ago - a woman for whatever reason had decided to use the prefix 'Mrs.', rather than 'Miss'. However, never having actually been a 'Mrs.' she did not have a divorce certificate.

Yodrak

ken was your fiance ever married before? If not, then she does not need that certificate you are thinking of. It is only for people that were previously married.

Dan

[Yodrak 7]

George,

I suspect that your use of the word 'statement', rather than 'certificate', for the 'proof of singleness' document is exactly correct.

I have seen a variety of situations in which a person will go to the amphur office with a couple of witnesses from their village (or perhaps the witnesses can be workers at the the amphur office), make and sign a written statement, signed also by the witnesses, and then signed and stamped with 'the big fancy red stamp' by the Nai Amphur or other responsible person in charge. The statement will be written on an otherwise plain piece of paper but with the Garuda at top center.

Think of it as comparable to a sworn statement made under oath here in the USA.

Yodrak

...

Having read what others have gone thru and as a precaution....I had my wife (when she still in the K-1 process) I had her go to her local amphur and get such a statement.

But at the interview, it was never asked for.....hope this helps.

regards,

George

[*Robert* 2]

Something of that nature may be required of someone who is foolish enough to let it be known they've had a Thai wedding ceremony and someone such as a US consular official or USCIS officer wants to be sure that they're not married.

Yodrak

Yodrak,

What exactly do you mean by that statement? Are you just trying to point out that you are NOT considered leagaly married until either you register your marriage with the Amphur or through legal action abroad, and that by letting someone know you've had a Thai wedding ceremony, you are not legaly married and might have to prove it?

According to Thai law, even a ceremony where both Sin Sod and Khongman are presented, is considered a Betrothal, not a wedding.

Robert

[dbirner 0]

I think he was just saying that the K1 is for NON-married couples. So if you were to tell the CO that you were already married (be it Thai or American) they can turn you down for the K1 and insist you file the K3.

Today is Tons first day in school. She is taking english classes. My town has a very nice adult ed center. She has already met 2 other girls from Thailand. So hopefully she will make some friends and adjust a little bit more easily. Yesterday we went to Thai Town which is a small section of Hollywood. She really enjoyed her self and things are getting much better now.

I felt like a parent watching my child go to school for the first time. I think everything will be ok

Hmm, I guess we can't post more that one message in a certain time frame. Don't know about you all, but I don't like that.

[Yodrak 7]

Robert,

Exactly.

Not everyone outside of Thailand knows Thai law - say the words 'wedding' or 'marriage' and they will expect that you are married without even realizing to ask about registration at the amphur.

Even many Thai people think this way. When she was my girlfriend, I used to think that my wife had previously been married - she told me that she had been. She twice applied for B2 visas (and was twice approved) indicating on the DS-156 that she was divorced. Then when it was time for me to submit my I-129f petition I told her we needed her divorce certificate, and she replied 'what divorce certificate - I don't have one'. Only then did we sort out that although she'd had a wedding ceremony the 'marriage' had never been registered. No problem for the petition, but we did have to explain to the consulate why, on her third visa application, for the K1, she was single (never married) when on the first two applications she was divorced.

Fortunately, the consular officer accepted the explanation with the comment 'I understand, it's common practice' and we did not have to get a sworn statement to that effect. Also, I believe it helped that her name was written on her passport as 'Miss' - that's when I learned that once married a Thai woman is a 'Mrs.' forever after, even when divorced.

Yodrak

Something of that nature may be required of someone who is foolish enough to let it be known they've had a Thai wedding ceremony and someone such as a US consular official or USCIS officer wants to be sure that they're not married.

Yodrak

Yodrak,

What exactly do you mean by that statement? Are you just trying to point out that you are NOT considered leagaly married until either you register your marriage with the Amphur or through legal action abroad, and that by letting someone know you've had a Thai wedding ceremony, you are not legaly married and might have to prove it?

According to Thai law, even a ceremony where both Sin Sod and Khongman are presented, is considered a Betrothal, not a wedding.

Robert

Dan,

Excellent - glad to learn this.

I also don't like the way that the new VJ posting software concatenates successive posts.

Yodrak

...

Today is Tons first day in school. She is taking english classes. My town has a very nice adult ed center. She has already met 2 other girls from Thailand. So hopefully she will make some friends and adjust a little bit more easily. Yesterday we went to Thai Town which is a small section of Hollywood. She really enjoyed her self and things are getting much better now.

I felt like a parent watching my child go to school for the first time. I think everything will be ok

Hmm, I guess we can't post more that one message in a certain time frame. Don't know about you all, but I don't like that.

Edited February 6, 2006 by Yodrak