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[rin and john 71]

The embassy requirement and the USCIS requirement are different with regards to a birth certificate. For the embassy interview, Rin got by with her Thai ID card and tabian baan. She has since obtained her BC, so that shouldn't be an issue for us; here is what the CFR covering the DHS (part of USCIS) says (Title 8, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), 103.2.b.2):

"(2) Submitting secondary evidence and affidavits —(i) General. The non-existence or other unavailability of required evidence creates a presumption of ineligibility. If a required document, such as a birth or marriage certificate, does not exist or cannot be obtained, an applicant or petitioner must demonstrate this and submit secondary evidence, such as church or school records, pertinent to the facts at issue. If secondary evidence also does not exist or cannot be obtained, the applicant or petitioner must demonstrate the unavailability of both the required document and relevant secondary evidence, and submit two or more affidavits, sworn to or affirmed by persons who are not parties to the petition who have direct personal knowledge of the event and circumstances. Secondary evidence must overcome the unavailability of primary evidence, and affidavits must overcome the unavailability of both primary and secondary evidence."

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-....1.2&idno=8

I am sure someone from Thailand has had the same issue before and made it through AOS without a BC; would be interesting to hear what evidence they presented.

John

Hello all,

I like to post this reminder in the forum every once in awhile because it created a big headache for us. Before heading to the U.S., be sure you go to the fiance's amphur of birth and get an official birth certificate. You'll need it to adjust status. Also, if your fiance has had any name changes, get those official documents and have them all translated too. I had a very good translation experience with Anuchit Piewkham at info@thaienglish.com. Good luck on your journeys!

My wife doesn't seem to have a birth certificate, although she has a Thai passport, Thai ID card, and a translated copy of the house registration (blue book.) I found this on the State Dept. website. I wonder if I'll have any issues with AOS? Thoughts?

"The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship."

I am in exactly the same predicament. My fiancee went to ubon to get her birth certificate and they told her it was lost but gave her instead some type of affidavit. It was apparently good enough to get her K1 visa but I am worried about it sufficing for AOS. I won't get a chance to look at it until I am in BK next week.

Cheers,

H

Edited May 30, 2008 by rin and john

[Jessica&Lute 0]

As far as the police report, you can look here. I found this link at the Thai Consulate in Vancouver. I think you can do it all by Thai Post. This is the only place I've actually been able to find a phone number.

http://www.thaicongenvancouver.org/police.htm

Hope this helps.

Hello,

I did a little more searching and actually found the website of the Police Clearance Service Center in Bangkok: http://pcscenter.sb.police.go.th/eservice.php (website seems to work much better if you open it in Internet Explorer, rather than Firefox like I did). From the info there, it seems like you have to do it in person if the applicant is living in Thailand. Go to the Contact Us page for decent maps to the location as well as the correct phone numbers. I also added this link to Additional Info on the Bangkok Embassy info page on VJ for easy reference. Hope this is helpful!

Jessica

[Thai family 0]

As far as the police report, you can look here. I found this link at the Thai Consulate in Vancouver. I think you can do it all by Thai Post. This is the only place I've actually been able to find a phone number.

http://www.thaicongenvancouver.org/police.htm

Hope this helps.

Hello,

I did a little more searching and actually found the website of the Police Clearance Service Center in Bangkok: http://pcscenter.sb.police.go.th/eservice.php (website seems to work much better if you open it in Internet Explorer, rather than Firefox like I did). From the info there, it seems like you have to do it in person if the applicant is living in Thailand. Go to the Contact Us page for decent maps to the location as well as the correct phone numbers. I also added this link to Additional Info on the Bangkok Embassy info page on VJ for easy reference. Hope this is helpful!

Jessica

Thanks for that information. It is very helpful. My DIL seems very overwhelmed by all that she has to do.

[mnbinth 2]

My wife doesn't seem to have a birth certificate, although she has a Thai passport, Thai ID card, and a translated copy of the house registration (blue book.) I found this on the State Dept. website. I wonder if I'll have any issues with AOS? Thoughts?

"The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship."

For the K1 visa we used the household registration and Thai national identity card and that is acceptable for K1 applicants as stated above. I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not. USCIS is a different branch of government from the Department of State and I'm assuming that's why it did not work. I don't have any official documentation to prove that though. The U.S. Bangkok Embassy understands Thai documents. Service centers in the U.S. doing AOS deal with all countries and they don't have a clue what a household registration is. I attached a copy of the RFE I received.

I thought of another potential problem for you. When you get your medical examination done in Bangkok, make sure the doctor marks the correct approval box on the I-693 supplemental vaccination form. Our doctor checked the wrong box so we got a 2nd RFE and had to find a civil surgeon in the states to redo it. Go here to see the document we had to resubmit. Make copies of all the medical documents if possible because you turn them in at your point of entry and USCIS has been known to not forward them to the right service center which causes delays. I can't remember if the doctor seals them at the hospital or if they are sealed at the interview. BNH hospital reluctantly e-mailed me a copy of the document they messed up on.

Hope this helps!

[daboyz 36]

As far as the police report, you can look here. I found this link at the Thai Consulate in Vancouver. I think you can do it all by Thai Post. This is the only place I've actually been able to find a phone number.

http://www.thaicongenvancouver.org/police.htm

Hope this helps.

Hello,

I did a little more searching and actually found the website of the Police Clearance Service Center in Bangkok: http://pcscenter.sb.police.go.th/eservice.php (website seems to work much better if you open it in Internet Explorer, rather than Firefox like I did). From the info there, it seems like you have to do it in person if the applicant is living in Thailand. Go to the Contact Us page for decent maps to the location as well as the correct phone numbers. I also added this link to Additional Info on the Bangkok Embassy info page on VJ for easy reference. Hope this is helpful!

Jessica

Thanks! That's a big help!

[daboyz 36]

My wife doesn't seem to have a birth certificate, although she has a Thai passport, Thai ID card, and a translated copy of the house registration (blue book.) I found this on the State Dept. website. I wonder if I'll have any issues with AOS? Thoughts?

"The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship."

For the K1 visa we used the household registration and Thai national identity card and that is acceptable for K1 applicants as stated above. I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not. USCIS is a different branch of government from the Department of State and I'm assuming that's why it did not work. I don't have any official documentation to prove that though. The U.S. Bangkok Embassy understands Thai documents. Service centers in the U.S. doing AOS deal with all countries and they don't have a clue what a household registration is. I attached a copy of the RFE I received.

I thought of another potential problem for you. When you get your medical examination done in Bangkok, make sure the doctor marks the correct approval box on the I-693 supplemental vaccination form. Our doctor checked the wrong box so we got a 2nd RFE and had to find a civil surgeon in the states to redo it. Go here to see the document we had to resubmit. Make copies of all the medical documents if possible because you turn them in at your point of entry and USCIS has been known to not forward them to the right service center which causes delays. I can't remember if the doctor seals them at the hospital or if they are sealed at the interview. BNH hospital reluctantly e-mailed me a copy of the document they messed up on.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for that info. Looks like the wife is going to be making a trip to Si Sa Ket for the Birth Certificate. She doesn't sound happy about it, but that's how it goes I guess. Better to do it now while she's in Thailand.

[rin and john 71]

My wife doesn't seem to have a birth certificate, although she has a Thai passport, Thai ID card, and a translated copy of the house registration (blue book.) I found this on the State Dept. website. I wonder if I'll have any issues with AOS? Thoughts?

"The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship."

For the K1 visa we used the household registration and Thai national identity card and that is acceptable for K1 applicants as stated above. I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not. USCIS is a different branch of government from the Department of State and I'm assuming that's why it did not work. I don't have any official documentation to prove that though. The U.S. Bangkok Embassy understands Thai documents. Service centers in the U.S. doing AOS deal with all countries and they don't have a clue what a household registration is. I attached a copy of the RFE I received.

I thought of another potential problem for you. When you get your medical examination done in Bangkok, make sure the doctor marks the correct approval box on the I-693 supplemental vaccination form. Our doctor checked the wrong box so we got a 2nd RFE and had to find a civil surgeon in the states to redo it. Go here to see the document we had to resubmit. Make copies of all the medical documents if possible because you turn them in at your point of entry and USCIS has been known to not forward them to the right service center which causes delays. I can't remember if the doctor seals them at the hospital or if they are sealed at the interview. BNH hospital reluctantly e-mailed me a copy of the document they messed up on.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for that info. Looks like the wife is going to be making a trip to Si Sa Ket for the Birth Certificate. She doesn't sound happy about it, but that's how it goes I guess. Better to do it now while she's in Thailand.

Rin is also from Si Sa Ket. We originally planned to go get her BC while I was visiting, but instead a family member was able to go to the local amphur and get it for her. The interesting part was that her aunt went and they would not give it to her. They told her that a male family member with the same last name could get it. Her uncle went the next day and was able to get it and mail it to her in Bangkok.

So if she still has family in Si Sa Ket, they might be able to save her the trip.

John

[daboyz 36]

My wife doesn't seem to have a birth certificate, although she has a Thai passport, Thai ID card, and a translated copy of the house registration (blue book.) I found this on the State Dept. website. I wonder if I'll have any issues with AOS? Thoughts?

"The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship."

For the K1 visa we used the household registration and Thai national identity card and that is acceptable for K1 applicants as stated above. I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not. USCIS is a different branch of government from the Department of State and I'm assuming that's why it did not work. I don't have any official documentation to prove that though. The U.S. Bangkok Embassy understands Thai documents. Service centers in the U.S. doing AOS deal with all countries and they don't have a clue what a household registration is. I attached a copy of the RFE I received.

I thought of another potential problem for you. When you get your medical examination done in Bangkok, make sure the doctor marks the correct approval box on the I-693 supplemental vaccination form. Our doctor checked the wrong box so we got a 2nd RFE and had to find a civil surgeon in the states to redo it. Go here to see the document we had to resubmit. Make copies of all the medical documents if possible because you turn them in at your point of entry and USCIS has been known to not forward them to the right service center which causes delays. I can't remember if the doctor seals them at the hospital or if they are sealed at the interview. BNH hospital reluctantly e-mailed me a copy of the document they messed up on.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for that info. Looks like the wife is going to be making a trip to Si Sa Ket for the Birth Certificate. She doesn't sound happy about it, but that's how it goes I guess. Better to do it now while she's in Thailand.

Rin is also from Si Sa Ket. We originally planned to go get her BC while I was visiting, but instead a family member was able to go to the local amphur and get it for her. The interesting part was that her aunt went and they would not give it to her. They told her that a male family member with the same last name could get it. Her uncle went the next day and was able to get it and mail it to her in Bangkok.

So if she still has family in Si Sa Ket, they might be able to save her the trip.

John

Great. Her mother and father still live in Si Sa Ket. Rasi Salai actually, but I'm sure I could get her to have her father deal with it. I wonder does she have to go to the Amphur where born, or can she go to Muang Si Sa Ket?

[mnbinth 2]

My wife doesn't seem to have a birth certificate, although she has a Thai passport, Thai ID card, and a translated copy of the house registration (blue book.) I found this on the State Dept. website. I wonder if I'll have any issues with AOS? Thoughts?

"The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship."

For the K1 visa we used the household registration and Thai national identity card and that is acceptable for K1 applicants as stated above. I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not. USCIS is a different branch of government from the Department of State and I'm assuming that's why it did not work. I don't have any official documentation to prove that though. The U.S. Bangkok Embassy understands Thai documents. Service centers in the U.S. doing AOS deal with all countries and they don't have a clue what a household registration is. I attached a copy of the RFE I received.

I thought of another potential problem for you. When you get your medical examination done in Bangkok, make sure the doctor marks the correct approval box on the I-693 supplemental vaccination form. Our doctor checked the wrong box so we got a 2nd RFE and had to find a civil surgeon in the states to redo it. Go here to see the document we had to resubmit. Make copies of all the medical documents if possible because you turn them in at your point of entry and USCIS has been known to not forward them to the right service center which causes delays. I can't remember if the doctor seals them at the hospital or if they are sealed at the interview. BNH hospital reluctantly e-mailed me a copy of the document they messed up on.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for that info. Looks like the wife is going to be making a trip to Si Sa Ket for the Birth Certificate. She doesn't sound happy about it, but that's how it goes I guess. Better to do it now while she's in Thailand.

Rin is also from Si Sa Ket. We originally planned to go get her BC while I was visiting, but instead a family member was able to go to the local amphur and get it for her. The interesting part was that her aunt went and they would not give it to her. They told her that a male family member with the same last name could get it. Her uncle went the next day and was able to get it and mail it to her in Bangkok.

So if she still has family in Si Sa Ket, they might be able to save her the trip.

John

Great. Her mother and father still live in Si Sa Ket. Rasi Salai actually, but I'm sure I could get her to have her father deal with it. I wonder does she have to go to the Amphur where born, or can she go to Muang Si Sa Ket?

My wife is also from the Sisaket area. I just asked my wife and she said you have to go to the local amphur of birth and the building in phonetics is called "ti wat gone amphur" or ที่ว่าการอำเภอที่พ่อหรือแม่ไปแจ้งไว้ and we had her father go do it. They don't give out originals. They make a copy and have someone sign it.

[rin and john 71]

My wife doesn't seem to have a birth certificate, although she has a Thai passport, Thai ID card, and a translated copy of the house registration (blue book.) I found this on the State Dept. website. I wonder if I'll have any issues with AOS? Thoughts?

"The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship."

For the K1 visa we used the household registration and Thai national identity card and that is acceptable for K1 applicants as stated above. I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not. USCIS is a different branch of government from the Department of State and I'm assuming that's why it did not work. I don't have any official documentation to prove that though. The U.S. Bangkok Embassy understands Thai documents. Service centers in the U.S. doing AOS deal with all countries and they don't have a clue what a household registration is. I attached a copy of the RFE I received.

I thought of another potential problem for you. When you get your medical examination done in Bangkok, make sure the doctor marks the correct approval box on the I-693 supplemental vaccination form. Our doctor checked the wrong box so we got a 2nd RFE and had to find a civil surgeon in the states to redo it. Go here to see the document we had to resubmit. Make copies of all the medical documents if possible because you turn them in at your point of entry and USCIS has been known to not forward them to the right service center which causes delays. I can't remember if the doctor seals them at the hospital or if they are sealed at the interview. BNH hospital reluctantly e-mailed me a copy of the document they messed up on.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for that info. Looks like the wife is going to be making a trip to Si Sa Ket for the Birth Certificate. She doesn't sound happy about it, but that's how it goes I guess. Better to do it now while she's in Thailand.

Rin is also from Si Sa Ket. We originally planned to go get her BC while I was visiting, but instead a family member was able to go to the local amphur and get it for her. The interesting part was that her aunt went and they would not give it to her. They told her that a male family member with the same last name could get it. Her uncle went the next day and was able to get it and mail it to her in Bangkok.

So if she still has family in Si Sa Ket, they might be able to save her the trip.

John

Great. Her mother and father still live in Si Sa Ket. Rasi Salai actually, but I'm sure I could get her to have her father deal with it. I wonder does she have to go to the Amphur where born, or can she go to Muang Si Sa Ket?

Feyser is correct; has to be the local amphur. Rin's was actually from sub-district Huai Thap Than, about 40 km south of Rasi Salai.

http://www.thailand-guide.org/thailand/sisaket/map-big.htm

http://www.thailand-guide.org/maps/index.htm

John

Edited May 30, 2008 by rin and john

[daboyz 36]

My wife doesn't seem to have a birth certificate, although she has a Thai passport, Thai ID card, and a translated copy of the house registration (blue book.) I found this on the State Dept. website. I wonder if I'll have any issues with AOS? Thoughts?

"The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship."

For the K1 visa we used the household registration and Thai national identity card and that is acceptable for K1 applicants as stated above. I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not. USCIS is a different branch of government from the Department of State and I'm assuming that's why it did not work. I don't have any official documentation to prove that though. The U.S. Bangkok Embassy understands Thai documents. Service centers in the U.S. doing AOS deal with all countries and they don't have a clue what a household registration is. I attached a copy of the RFE I received.

I thought of another potential problem for you. When you get your medical examination done in Bangkok, make sure the doctor marks the correct approval box on the I-693 supplemental vaccination form. Our doctor checked the wrong box so we got a 2nd RFE and had to find a civil surgeon in the states to redo it. Go here to see the document we had to resubmit. Make copies of all the medical documents if possible because you turn them in at your point of entry and USCIS has been known to not forward them to the right service center which causes delays. I can't remember if the doctor seals them at the hospital or if they are sealed at the interview. BNH hospital reluctantly e-mailed me a copy of the document they messed up on.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for that info. Looks like the wife is going to be making a trip to Si Sa Ket for the Birth Certificate. She doesn't sound happy about it, but that's how it goes I guess. Better to do it now while she's in Thailand.

Rin is also from Si Sa Ket. We originally planned to go get her BC while I was visiting, but instead a family member was able to go to the local amphur and get it for her. The interesting part was that her aunt went and they would not give it to her. They told her that a male family member with the same last name could get it. Her uncle went the next day and was able to get it and mail it to her in Bangkok.

So if she still has family in Si Sa Ket, they might be able to save her the trip.

John

Great. Her mother and father still live in Si Sa Ket. Rasi Salai actually, but I'm sure I could get her to have her father deal with it. I wonder does she have to go to the Amphur where born, or can she go to Muang Si Sa Ket?

Feyser is correct; has to be the local amphur. Rin's was actually from sub-district Huai Thap Than, about 40 km south of Rasi Salai.

http://www.thailand-guide.org/thailand/sisaket/map-big.htm

http://www.thailand-guide.org/maps/index.htm

John

Ok. I sent her the name in Thai. Thanks again. I'm really kicking myself for not just doing all this over there. I lived there for 3 years. Lived with my wife in BKK for a year and a half. Should have done the DCF thing, but didn't realize this whole thing was going to be such a process.

[heiko 0]

My wife doesn't seem to have a birth certificate, although she has a Thai passport, Thai ID card, and a translated copy of the house registration (blue book.) I found this on the State Dept. website. I wonder if I'll have any issues with AOS? Thoughts?

"The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship."

For the K1 visa we used the household registration and Thai national identity card and that is acceptable for K1 applicants as stated above. I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not. USCIS is a different branch of government from the Department of State and I'm assuming that's why it did not work. I don't have any official documentation to prove that though. The U.S. Bangkok Embassy understands Thai documents. Service centers in the U.S. doing AOS deal with all countries and they don't have a clue what a household registration is. I attached a copy of the RFE I received.

I thought of another potential problem for you. When you get your medical examination done in Bangkok, make sure the doctor marks the correct approval box on the I-693 supplemental vaccination form. Our doctor checked the wrong box so we got a 2nd RFE and had to find a civil surgeon in the states to redo it. Go here to see the document we had to resubmit. Make copies of all the medical documents if possible because you turn them in at your point of entry and USCIS has been known to not forward them to the right service center which causes delays. I can't remember if the doctor seals them at the hospital or if they are sealed at the interview. BNH hospital reluctantly e-mailed me a copy of the document they messed up on.

Hope this helps!

Thanks Feyser, John everyone else! CONGRATS! Feyser on getting the green card. If anyone has a chance could you possibly scan and post just what a thai birth certificate looks like?

Cheers,

H

[dvddvd 0]

feyser - "I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not."

your mistake was not in assuming .... your mistake was that you ignored the advice given to you on this site regarding thai birth certificates. the advice was .... to not come to the usa without the birth certificate. and you did exactly that.

sorry,

dvd

[mnbinth 2]

feyser - "I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not."

your mistake was not in assuming .... your mistake was that you ignored the advice given to you on this site regarding thai birth certificates. the advice was .... to not come to the usa without the birth certificate. and you did exactly that.

sorry,

dvd

Hindsight is always 20/20. I just want to help others avoid mistakes on this long and often confusing process. Good luck to all on your journey!

[dvddvd 0]

feyser - "I assumed it would work for AOS if I gave them Thai and English copies but it did not."

your mistake was not in assuming .... your mistake was that you ignored the advice given to you on this site regarding thai birth certificates. the advice was .... to not come to the usa without the birth certificate. and you did exactly that.

sorry,

dvd

Hindsight is always 20/20. I just want to help others avoid mistakes on this long and often confusing process. Good luck to all on your journey!

hindsight??? you were given the same birth certificate advice on this site .... BEFORE you came to the states without the certificate, but you chose to ignore the advice.

maybe you didn't read the responses to your bc inquiries .... anyway ...

good luck to all and congratulations, feyser, on getting the green card

dvd