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[Rocio0010 5,579]

So I'm probably get downvoted for this, but I'm playing the devil's advocate simply because this might the rationale behind the denial for couples that do not spend enough time together. But two things stand out from your post,

a) how do you know that you want to marry that person if you don't spend time together? Literally you almost haven't met them.

b) please don't kill me for saying this, but if you have only visited once in three years then that speaks a lot of how serious you both are about the relationship. And during the pandemic you could have met in a third country or one that was not affected so badly.

[Kelo carter 15]

5 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

So I'm probably get downvoted for this, but I'm playing the devil's advocate simply because this might the rationale behind the denial for couples that do not spend enough time together. But two things stand out from your post,

a) how do you know that you want to marry that person if you don't spend time together? Literally you almost haven't met them.

b) please don't kill me for saying this, but if you have only visited once in three years then that speaks a lot of how serious you both are about the relationship. And during the pandemic you could have met in a third country or one that was not affected so badly.

Na it's ok ur right ther was alot of issues behind us not meeting again n again but we will just start over...thanks...I apreciate ur comment

[SalishSea 17,827]

11 hours ago, Kelo carter said:

Can we marry now while waiting for the k1 results?

A denial will not miraculously turn into an approval.

[SalishSea 17,827]

10 hours ago, Kelo carter said:

Wow thanks alot...I apreciate u

We bn together since 2016...first met in 2019 got engage

I'm a year older

Fam approve we have pics with fam

Usc never bn married before...no kids

I have to read thru the crI info...

And you've only met just the one time?  That is not adequate for Nigeria.  You need more visits, more time spent together in person.

[SalishSea 17,827]

9 hours ago, Kelo carter said:

Yea we wanted to meet thn boom we got news of interview late 2021 so we just decided to wait...

You could have gone to Nigeria for the interview.  That may have helped.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

14 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

And you've only met just the one time?  That is not adequate for Nigeria.  You need more visits, more time spent together in person.

Yep. And also, maybe I’m old school but I think spend more time together to see whether you want to marry this person. Even if immigration wasn’t involved, just meeting once is not nearly enough to determine whether you love the person with their flaws and everything. Because marriage is a huge commitment, with its ups and downs.

[SalishSea 17,827]

Just now, Rocio0010 said:

Yep. And also, maybe I’m old school but I think spend more time together to see whether you want to marry this person. Even if immigration wasn’t involved, just meeting once is not nearly enough to determine whether you love the person with their flaws and everything. Because marriage is a huge commitment, with its ups and downs.

Exactly.  We had multiple visits spanning three years before filing a petition, and my (now) husband is from perhaps the lowest-fraud country.

 

Marriage is huge, and when it includes a component of immigration, and for someone to leave their entire lives behind, the stakes are even higher.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

18 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Exactly.  We had multiple visits spanning three years before filing a petition, and my (now) husband is from perhaps the lowest-fraud country.

 

Marriage is huge, and when it includes a component of immigration, and for someone to leave their entire lives behind, the stakes are even higher.

Exactly. And usually with long distance relationships one tends to ignore the flaws and see everything with pink glasses. Big no no. You should know who you’re marrying with and make a conscious decision.

[Kelo carter 15]

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

A denial will not miraculously turn into an approval.

Ok thank u

[Kelo carter 15]

1 hour ago, Rocio0010 said:

Yep. And also, maybe I’m old school but I think spend more time together to see whether you want to marry this person. Even if immigration wasn’t involved, just meeting once is not nearly enough to determine whether you love the person with their flaws and everything. Because marriage is a huge commitment, with its ups and downs.

Yep you are rt thank u

[Shane C 22]

Unfortunately, there are different standards/unwritten rules for different countries. One in-person visit is typically enough for a country in Western Europe. But if you're fiance is from Africa, a predominantly Muslim country, China, Russia, etc. the rules aren't the same. My fiance is currently in administrative processing. She has several university degrees and no criminal record, but being from Belarus created added scrutiny in the process. Immigration officers rarely look at the character and merits of the individual, but the country they come from as a whole. The visa applicant could walk on water, but none of that matters if they're from a heavily scrutinized country. If my fiance would've been from Western Europe, she would've been in the US months ago. I've lived in sanctuary cities where people in the country illegally could do practically everything a legal citizen could do except vote. Yet, those who follow the rules and opt to go through the legal immigration system, are put through seemingly endless wait times and other problems. It's not fair, but it's something we can't change, at least not in the short-term. Assuming there's not something about the denial you're not disclosing, you may need to move to her country, get married and live for a season while you apply for a marriage visa.

Edited November 27, 2022 by Shane C

[Kelo carter 15]

3 minutes ago, Shane C said:

Unfortunately, there are different standards/unwritten rules for different countries. One in-person visit is typically enough for a country in Western Europe. But if you're fiance is from Africa, a predominantly Muslim country, China, Russia, etc. the rules aren't the same. My fiance is currently in administrative processing. She has several university degrees and no criminal record, but being from Belarus created added scrutiny in the process. Immigration officers rarely look at the character and merits of the individual, but the country they come from as a whole. The visa applicant could walk on water, but none of that matters if they're from a heavily scrutinized country. If my fiance would've been from Western Europe, she would've been in the US months ago. I've lived in sanctuary cities where people in the country illegally could do practically everything a legal citizen could do except vote. Yet, those who follow the rules and opt to go through the legal immigration system, are put through seemingly endless wait times and other problems. It's not fair, but it's something we can't change, at least not in the short-term. Assuming there's not something about the denial you're not disclosing, you may need to move to her country, get married and live for a season while you apply for a marriage visa.

Yea I understand we have nothing to hard...all i said was the truth.....since 2016 we met in 2019 got engage at the first meeting...so they could see that as red flag tho

[Shane C 22]

Also, federal immigration employees have high salary jobs with about a month of annual leave. Your average American makes a fraction of their income and are lucky to get one or two weeks vacation, assuming your boss will let them take leave. So jumping on a plane 2-3 a year to visit your fiance in another country isn't an option for blue collar American workers. We all have inherent biases based on our unique life experiences. Unfortunately, visa decisions are made by single individuals who may subconsciously interject their biases into their decisions. It may not seem normal to a consular officer making six figures and a month of annual leave that someone wouldn't fly to another country to visit their fiance several times a year. But if they can remove themselves from their life bubbles and put themselves in other people's shoes, they would realize not everyone has that option.

Edited November 27, 2022 by Shane C

[Kelo carter 15]

Just now, Shane C said:

Also, federal immigration employees have high salary jobs with about a month of annual leave. Your average American makes a fraction of their income and are lucky to get one or two weeks vacation, assuming your boss will let them take leave. So jumping on a plane 2-3 a year to visit your fiance in another country isn't an option for blue collar American workers. We all have inherent biases based on our unique life experiences. Unfortunately, visa decisions are made by single individuals who may subconsciously interject their biases into their decisions. It may not seem normal to a consular officer making six figures and a month of annual leave that someone wouldn't fly to another country to visit their fiance several times a year. But if they can remove themselves from their life bubbles and put themselves in others shoes, they would realize not everyone has that option.

Yep u are so rt always we met three times so far even traveled dubai together....so hopefully this time we won't b turned dowwn.

[Boiler 45,486]

It is extremely rare to come across a Western Europe case where there has been only one meeting. I have come across it so not quite a Unicorn but very close to it.

 

The most common meet once and file seems to be the Philippines and that does not seem to cause problems.

 

So like everything it depends.