Local Social Security Office does not want to give my US Citizen child a SSN

[bondy88 6]

55 minutes ago, iwannaplay54 said:

.The people who seem to know the most about this are the ones who never did it LOL.  
We applied by mail while we were in the US on vacation in 2009, we did “fire and forget” and went back overseas.  They mailed her card to my parent’s house.  We didnt come back to the US until 2012.

Talk about experiences much when they aren't similar to what the OP is going thru. Right. It doesn't matter whether you fly to Mars after applying in the U.S, with the child in your custody--- the card will get mailed out to a U.S address on file.

 

I recently went thru the same exact process at our area's U.S consulate for my newborn. After getting the CRBA and Passport, I was told by the Consul to either apply for an SSN at the Manila Embassy which has the closest FBU office dealing with our country or when the child and I are in the U.S, at any Social Security office. I went ahead and had the Consul notarize CRBA, baby's passport and my passport and mailed it out to Manila Embassy for processing. It was processed within two weeks and mailed out to a U.S address I provided.

 

Given that OP's child is in need of medical care, I hope the SSN gets approved quickly regardless of where.

[iwannaplay54 985]

4 hours ago, bondy88 said:

Talk about experiences much when they aren't similar to what the OP is going thru. Right. It doesn't matter whether you fly to Mars after applying in the U.S, with the child in your custody--- the card will get mailed out to a U.S address on file.

 

I recently went thru the same exact process at our area's U.S consulate for my newborn. After getting the CRBA and Passport, I was told by the Consul to either apply for an SSN at the Manila Embassy which has the closest FBU office dealing with our country or when the child and I are in the U.S, at any Social Security office. I went ahead and had the Consul notarize CRBA, baby's passport and my passport and mailed it out to Manila Embassy for processing. It was processed within two weeks and mailed out to a U.S address I provided.

 

Given that OP's child is in need of medical care, I hope the SSN gets approved quickly regardless of where.

I bet you didnt have to bring the child in person did you

[Ryan H 3,812]

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[Mr Genuis 91]

On 2/2/2022 at 11:55 AM, Jose Campos said:

I currently live here in the United States, for over 20 years that is the reason why I am contacting my local social security office. My US Citizen Child currently lives with mom in Lima, Peru because she is 5 months old and mom cannot currently travel here to the United States. Regarding claiming child on tax return, I do not file tax returns since I am physically disabled at birth and I have SSI benefits.

It's very simple. Your child is not present in the United State. All they told you  is, you have to be present in the U.S or I beleive if you are outside U.S , you have to be employed by the United State in the territory or country that you are for the Social security to be given to you. Even if you call another office I am confident they will read out from their script and tell you thesame thing. 

[Villanelle 4,122]

On 2/4/2022 at 12:41 AM, iwannaplay54 said:

I have never, ever brought a kiddo in personally to get a SS card for them.  You think the SS admin knows where infants or newborns are physically located when they get an application by mail?  LOL.  “Appointment with the child” indeed.  If the application comes from the parent then there is no question that the parent has the right to apply for it.

 

There is no, none, zero requirement to “come in for an appointment” for a social security card.  Never has been, never will be.  It is not “sneaky” to apply for one either.   This is the natural parent, this parent’s name is on the CRBA and the parent can match his ID with the CRBA.

There is not even a sniff of “sneaky” here.  They are not divorced, the mother is not a USC, and there is no need to “show custody”.

Mail the application and they will send the card.

I think when you send the passport and they see it's not been stamped showing the child entry to the US it opens the line of question of where the child is/custody.

 

As others stated you sent a passport stamped after entry which is a small yet significant difference. 

[iwannaplay54 985]

7 hours ago, Villanelle said:

I think when you send the passport and they see it's not been stamped showing the child entry to the US it opens the line of question of where the child is/custody.

 

As others stated you sent a passport stamped after entry which is a small yet significant difference. 

I think they dont examine passport stamps because the passport serves one and only one purpose:  to establish citizenship

 

If there were such a rule as is claimed here it is not written down.  One experience I had back in 2018 was I applied for a SS number in a different state and the drone at the counter claimed a rule that it had to be done in the state I lived in.  Made a quick call to the main number (800 number) and the next day the same person who turned me away processed the application.

So:  the OP has mailed his application in, we shall see how it turns out.  My call is it gets processed right through.

[Villanelle 4,122]

6 hours ago, iwannaplay54 said:

I think they dont examine passport stamps because the passport serves one and only one purpose:  to establish citizenship

 

If there were such a rule as is claimed here it is not written down.  One experience I had back in 2018 was I applied for a SS number in a different state and the drone at the counter claimed a rule that it had to be done in the state I lived in.  Made a quick call to the main number (800 number) and the next day the same person who turned me away processed the application.

So:  the OP has mailed his application in, we shall see how it turns out.  My call is it gets processed right through.

Well I did post links to the POMS manual earlier. Does have quite a bit of wording written down on the topic. 

 

SSA is a typical government agency in which they offer a variety of 'self help' informative brochures but they are just snippets of policies and not a complete overview of the complex policies and procedures they are governed by.

[Mike E 11,739]

13 hours ago, Villanelle said:

I think when you send the passport and they see it's not been stamped showing the child entry to the US it opens the line of question of where the child is/custody.

 

As others stated you sent a passport stamped after entry which is a small yet significant difference. 

I’ve don’t think I’ve  had my USA passport stamped when entering the USA.  

[iwannaplay54 985]

20 hours ago, Mike E said:

I’ve don’t think I’ve  had my USA passport stamped when entering the USA.  

Me either.  Not once.

20 hours ago, Villanelle said:

Well I did post links to the POMS manual earlier. Does have quite a bit of wording written down on the topic. 

 

SSA is a typical government agency in which they offer a variety of 'self help' informative brochures but they are just snippets of policies and not a complete overview of the complex policies and procedures they are governed by.

We shall see

[iwannaplay54 985]

On 2/2/2022 at 11:31 AM, Jose Campos said:

This is my situation, my child is 5 months old and was born abroad, in Lima Peru. I am a naturalized US Citizen living here in the United States for over 20 years and I did all the paperwork in order for my child to acquire US Citizen, after a few weeks I was able to receive my child’s US Passport and Consular Report of birth abroad. 

 

I never applied for a social security number for my child since the US Embassy at Lima, Peru told me that they do not provide that service anymore.

I came back to the United States with my child’s US Passport and Consular Report and I called my local social security office and they asked what is the purpose of getting a social security number if the child currently lives abroad with mom? I answered that is my child’s right to have a social security number as a US Citizen and that mom cannot travel to the US because I haven't petition for her yet.

At the end of the call with my local social security office, they said that they won’t be able to provide me with an appointment since the child is not here in the United States, they also asked for the original birth certificate and immunization records, I told them that the only original documents that I have is the consular report abroad and US Passport and I believe those are the only required documents.

Can anyone guide me what should I do? What should I tell the social security office next time I call?

Please let us know how this turns out

[Jose Campos 3]

7 minutes ago, iwannaplay54 said:

Please let us know how this turns out

Sure I will. So far, I am still waiting for the social security office, I believe I should give them at least 2 weeks before they send or respond. Thank you so much for all the replies to everyone here. Still waiting for now.

[Jose Campos 3]

On 2/11/2022 at 10:28 PM, iwannaplay54 said:

Please let us know how this turns out

Just a quick update. I sent my application for my child SSN on Feb 4, 2022, according to the post office tracking number they received it on Feb 7, 2022 but I still haven't receive any mail or my documents back. Should I give them a call? or continue to wait? Thanks!

[iffi 3]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:09 AM, Jose Campos said:

Just a quick update. I sent my application for my child SSN on Feb 4, 2022, according to the post office tracking number they received it on Feb 7, 2022 but I still haven't receive any mail or my documents back. Should I give them a call? or continue to wait? Thanks!

Any updates? Is there any chance that it didn't work out ? The SSN office usually takes 8-14 calendar days to process and mail out cards. They are really efficient especially when it comes to processing SSN card applications unless of course there is an issue.

[Jose Campos 3]

On 3/2/2022 at 2:34 AM, iffi said:

Any updates? Is there any chance that it didn't work out ? The SSN office usually takes 8-14 calendar days to process and mail out cards. They are really efficient especially when it comes to processing SSN card applications unless of course there is an issue.

Yes, there is an update.

 

Today I received my US Citizen Child's social security card in the mail, no questions, no problems.

 

She is a born US Citizen and is her right to receive a social security card. 

 

Thank you all of you for your help, especially to the user/member *iwannaplay54* who encourage and guide me to just submit the application.

Edited March 5, 2022 by Jose Campos