N-400 Naturalization Evidence

[meandterry 3]

Hi y'all,

 So I started to file online, they ask me birth certificate of my husband children which they are not legally adopted by me, one daughter is deceased about my age and one daughter is older a year to me

 

what should I do if I can't provide these docs: BIRTH CERTIFICATE, COURT ORDER NAMING YOU AS A CHILD PARENT AND FINAL ADOPTION CERTIFICATE OR DECREE

[Mike E 11,739]

I’m not a fan of filing N-400 online and this seems to be yet another reason.   
 

https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-h-chapter-2

 

“Although a stepchild may be the stepparent’s “child” for purposes of visa issuance, the stepchild is not the stepparent’s “child” for purposes of citizenship and naturalization. ”

[Rocio0010 5,579]

I have a stepchild and this is exactly why I am not going to file online, unless they make it more organized and allow you to skip steps and documentation that do not pertain to you. 
Ditch the online filing and go back to old paper and snail mail.

[iwannaplay54 985]

11 hours ago, meandterry said:

Hi y'all,

 So I started to file online, they ask me birth certificate of my husband children which they are not legally adopted by me, one daughter is deceased about my age and one daughter is older a year to me

 

what should I do if I can't provide these docs: BIRTH CERTIFICATE, COURT ORDER NAMING YOU AS A CHILD PARENT AND FINAL ADOPTION CERTIFICATE OR DECREE

The USC’s children from previous marriage do not have anything to do with your citizenship application.

Your application, your children if applicable.  We just wrapped up citizenship and the application does not ask for anything but information on the APPLICANTS (Immigrants) children.

We filed online.  It was painless.  If you do not have children this section does not apply to you.

Edited January 30, 2022 by iwannaplay54

[Rocio0010 5,579]

22 minutes ago, iwannaplay54 said:

The USC’s children from previous marriage do not have anything to do with your citizenship application.

Your application, your children if applicable.  We just wrapped up citizenship and the application does not ask for anything but information on the APPLICANTS (Immigrants) children.

We filed online.  It was painless.  If you do not have children this section does not apply to you.

It is confusing, though. Been navigating those waters already. 
USCIS does not distinguish between “stepchildren “ and “children” when you marry your spouse, and their child is a minor. If the child is older than 18 then there’s nothing to worry about.

[carmel34 3,621]

44 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

It is confusing, though. Been navigating those waters already. 
USCIS does not distinguish between “stepchildren “ and “children” when you marry your spouse, and their child is a minor. If the child is older than 18 then there’s nothing to worry about.

Yes it is confusing.  My husband is preparing to file an N-400 in May of this year.  In all prior forms completed for his spousal visa and ROC, he did not list my 4 adult children as his "children," because stepchildren were not mentioned on any of those forms.  However, the N-400 does define "children" as all children, including stepchildren. Part 11 (attached).  It does not mention on the N-400 that they must be under 18.  So we are still trying to figure out what to do.  My research shows that some have included adult stepchildren on the N-400, others have not.  Maybe it doesn't matter because the definition is not 100% clear.

 

 

[Rocio0010 5,579]

42 minutes ago, carmel34 said:

Yes it is confusing.  My husband is preparing to file an N-400 in May of this year.  In all prior forms completed for his spousal visa and ROC, he did not list my 4 adult children as his "children," because stepchildren were not mentioned on any of those forms.  However, the N-400 does define "children" as all children, including stepchildren. Part 11 (attached).  It does not mention on the N-400 that they must be under 18.  So we are still trying to figure out what to do.  My research shows that some have included adult stepchildren on the N-400, others have not.  Maybe it doesn't matter because the definition is not 100% clear.

 

 

With things like these, I always go to the Policy manual. 
It says that “stepchildren” are under 18 at the time of marriage, which doesn’t seem to be your case.

My research shows me that children and stepchildren become more relevant when they are the immigrant’s bio children and there are a plans to sponsor them in the future. Not your case.

I personally would not include them, and would explain it at the interview.

[meandterry 3]

thank you all the inputs

[meandterry 3]

Hi y'all,

 

I finally applied online last night and this morning they send me update that approximately 14 months.

 

Is this a normal timeline, takes linger than I thought

 

Thank you

[Rocio0010 5,579]

17 minutes ago, meandterry said:

Hi y'all,

 

I finally applied online last night and this morning they send me update that approximately 14 months.

 

Is this a normal timeline, takes linger than I thought

 

Thank you

Hi, quick question: what did you do about your stepdaughter BC? Did you have to submit it?

In my experience, timelines are accurate. I have never heard of an N400 taking so long. What's your FO?

[STO Overland 137]

My own was 15 months from application to Oath. 
 

Just depends on the office dealing with your application and your specific case. One of my friends applied to the same office two months after me and she is still waiting for an interview. She will be 2 years this coming May

Edited January 31, 2022 by B52Boozer

[meandterry 3]

Hi Rocio0010

 

I did not include my stepdaighter since she is older than me and she is not in my custody,  i will explain it during interview

 

[Elle Worth 21]

On 1/29/2022 at 3:12 PM, meandterry said:

Hi y'all,

 So I started to file online, they ask me birth certificate of my husband children which they are not legally adopted by me, one daughter is deceased about my age and one daughter is older a year to me

 

what should I do if I can't provide these docs: BIRTH CERTIFICATE, COURT ORDER NAMING YOU AS A CHILD PARENT AND FINAL ADOPTION CERTIFICATE OR DECREE

Hi! When you married your husband automatically his kids are Your stepchildren .He doesnt have their birth certificate? Maybe asked his ex wife a copy of their kids' birth and death certificate?

[Elle Worth 21]

4 hours ago, meandterry said:

Hi Rocio0010

 

I did not include my stepdaighter since she is older than me and she is not in my custody,  i will explain it during interview

 

It would help during your interview if you write it legibly on a piece of bond paper your explanation about your stepchildren.

[Elle Worth 21]

14 hours ago, meandterry said:

Hi y'all,

 

I finally applied online last night and this morning they send me update that approximately 14 months.

 

Is this a normal timeline, takes linger than I thought

 

Thank you

Hi! that is just an estimate. it may be shorter than that or longer. Best Wishes