Why are we rushing to defend Ukraine? [merged threads]

[TBoneTX 45,649]

30 minutes ago, Neonred said:

TBoneTX, on this Christmas day I hope you helped to spread the love and joy by taking a family or two of "undocumented" folks into your home....

If they're all voluptuous blonde females, then si man.  

[TBoneTX 45,649]

Well worth reading.

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How To Make Republicans And Others Ditch Ukraine

 

[...] the DC establishment has decided that Ukraine policy is beyond debate, and not subject to input or question by the plebes.  They make no argument for why we should support Ukraine – and there are potentially good arguments to be made, once we figure out exactly what America's objective is.  What they do is slander, anyone, not cozy and cuddly with the Official Approved Narrative™ – get on board or get trashed.  The total, obnoxious refusal of our garbage ruling caste to even address the legitimate concerns of the American public regarding our blank-check, audit-free funding of the Russo-Ukrainian War is the best way to ensure that America will eventually stop supporting the underdogs.  [...]

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/12/26/how-to-make-republicans-and-others-ditch-ukraine-n2617537

Edited December 26, 2022 by TBoneTX

[TBoneTX 45,649]

Zelensky Spotted Ringing Bell Next To Red Bucket Outside U.S. Capitol

 

WASHINGTON, DC — Only a day after his address to Congress, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky was seen ringing a bell next to a red donation bucket while standing outside the entrance to the U.S. Capitol building.  Sources say it's yet another attempt to seek money for his nation's war effort against Russia.  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/zelensky-spotted-ringing-a-bell-next-to-a-red-bucket-at-the-entrance-to-the-us-capitol

[TBoneTX 45,649]

Sad: Ukrainian Soldier Tasked With Assembling All The Patriot Missiles With Included Allen Wrench On Christmas Eve

 

KYIV, UKRAINE — Intelligence reports indicate that a lone Ukrainian soldier was tasked with assembling all patriot missiles sent over from the U.S. with the included Allen wrench.  The soldier, later identified as Petro Shevchenko, reportedly regrets volunteering for the assignment.  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/sad-ukrainian-soldier-tasked-with-assembling-all-the-patriot-missiles-with-included-allen-wrench-on-christmas-eve

[TBoneTX 45,649]

Santa's Sleigh Mistakenly Shot Down By Ukrainian Missile

 

KYIV — Somber news came out of war-torn Ukraine today as reports confirmed Santa Claus's sleigh had been mistaken for a hostile Russian aircraft and was shot down by a Ukrainian surface-to-air missile as it flew over the greater Kyiv area early this morning.

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/santas-sleigh-mistakenly-shot-down-by-ukrainian-missile

 

[TBoneTX 45,649]

U.S. Agrees To Send Ukraine One Unused Border Wall

 

[...] "We have this wall that we're not using, I dunno, do you guys in Ukraine want it?" asked Senator Mitch McConnell during Zelensky's D.C. trip.  "It's a pretty good wall.  A little rusty, maybe, but it should help you secure your borders, which are the most important borders on earth.  We don't believe in borders around here in Washington."  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/usa-agrees-to-send-ukraine-one-unused-5-billion-border-wall

[TBoneTX 45,649]

Oh No!  Zelensky Shoots His Eye Out With The Rocket Launcher He Got For Christmas

 

KYIV, UKRAINE — Tragedy struck Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky Friday as he shot himself in the eye with a rocket launcher he had received only days before as a gift from the United States.  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/oh-no-zelensky-shoots-his-eye-out-with-the-rocket-launcher-he-got-for-christmas

[TBoneTX 45,649]

Comments?

There's something better than the A-10 aircraft Ukraine wants

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/01/theres_something_better_than_the_a10_aircraft_ukraine_wants.html

[Boiler 45,739]

Neither of those would last 10 minutes.

 

Ideally Saab Gripen would be best suited, but not sure how practical that is in the reasonable future.

 

F16 maybe, availability good, but not really suited to rough runways and has fairly complex maintenance issues.

 

With the GBAD environment I would have thought the need is for air defense. Probably would not need that many equipped with Meteors.

 

Anyway my thoughts but interested in others.

[TBoneTX 45,649]

Interesting thoughts.  Why wouldn't they last 10 minutes?

[Boiler 45,739]

I remember seeing a suggestion that the AN-2 would be converted into drones to drawn down AA missiles, loads of them and cheap

[Mike E 11,741]

Both proposed aircraft are propeller planes. 
 

Has Russia’s armed forces degraded that badly?

[TBoneTX 45,649]

So no feasible uses?

Edited January 8, 2023 by TBoneTX

[Dashinka 24,643]

This seems relevant.

 

 

[TXRancher 7]

On 1/7/2023 at 9:19 PM, Mike E said:

Both proposed aircraft are propeller planes. 
 

Has Russia’s armed forces degraded that badly?

They were never much of anything to begin with. They're invading a country in a war they don't believe in and being defeated every day by the Ukrainian army.