Why are we rushing to defend Ukraine? [merged threads]

[Dashinka 24,647]

Hmm, so there are or were US funded (DOD) bio labs in Ukraine.  Mostly peaceful I assume.

 

Fact Sheet on WMD Threat Reduction Efforts with Ukraine, Russia and Other Former Soviet Union Countries

 

• Today, the collaborations in Ukraine remain peaceful efforts to improve nuclear and radiological safety and security, disease surveillance, chemical safety and security, and readiness to respond to epidemics and pandemics such as COVID-19.  

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3057517/fact-sheet-on-wmd-threat-reduction-efforts-with-ukraine-russia-and-other-former/

[Dashinka 24,647]

Interesting analysis.

 

As Questions Mount About Corruption In Ukraine, The Neocon Narrative Is Unraveling

 

No one knows this better than Ukrainians themselves, who have to put up with a level of official corruption on par with countries like Mexico and Gabon. Transparency International’s 2021 Corruption Perceptions Index ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries worldwide, and the second most corrupt country in Europe — right after Russia.

 

But talking about any of this publicly is a big problem for establishment neocons in Washington because it invites uncomfortable questions about the U.S. role in the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian war. Just ask Ukrainian-born Rep. Victoria Spartz, R-Ind., who lived in Ukraine until she was 22 and has been back six times since the Russian invasion. Spartz probably understands what’s happening in Ukraine better than anyone else in Congress, and yet Republican House leaders now say they regret giving her such a prominent platform to speak out against the war.

 

Why? Because she’s asking hard questions about corruption among some of Ukraine’s top officials, as well as raising totally reasonable concerns about U.S. oversight of the billions of dollars and unprecedented amount of weaponry we’ve been pouring into the country.

 

https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/20/as-questions-mount-about-corruption-in-ukraine-the-neocon-narrative-is-unraveling/

[TBoneTX 45,652]

Posting articles from The Federalist when that's my job, and getting upvotes for it!  Reported!!!  

[Dashinka 24,647]

So Old Joe is starting to get bored with Ukraine, or Hunter was able to extricate himself from any investments there?  I suspect a little of both.

 

Ukraine's Zelensky Gets Thrown Under the Biden Bus

 

In regards to Zelensky’s leadership, the fact that the war has moved to more of a stalemate is hardly a failure. Ukraine is a smaller, weaker nation than Russia, and the fight that’s been put up in its defense has been valorous. Stopping Putin from taking Kyiv and other regions further west is a major victory. But while Western nations continue to pump in mostly lower-tier weaponry, you need soldiers to use those weapons, and Ukraine doesn’t have the manpower to extricate Russia from its borders.

 

That’s not good enough for a White House that was counting on the full-scale embarrassment of Putin being a key political issue heading into 2024. With Russia not playing along, someone has to go under the bus. That’s where these leaks claiming Biden is losing faith in Zelensky are coming from. You’ll never hear the president himself say it publicly, but the White House is prepping its excuses for when things are still at a stand-still a year from now.

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/08/02/ukraines-zelensky-gets-thrown-under-the-biden-bus-n605692

 

 

 

Edited August 4, 2022 by Dashinka

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The Russian MIL have been studying biological samples from surrendered Ukrainian soldiers, and what they have been finding is beyond disturbing. Approximately 20% of them carrying West Nile pathogens, which were being studied “by the Pentagon as part of the Ukrainian UP-4 and UP-8 projects”. Suggesting that Ukrainian soldiers are being subject to involuntary biological experimentation and exposure to biological weapons (think Nuremberg).

 

In addition to carrying pathogens, nearly all of the surrendered Ukrainian soldiers carried traces of a wide variety of narcotics and opioids, including Meth and Codeine.

 

Russia were sure to remind us of the Nazi’s usage of methamphetamines in WW2. I covered this 2 weeks ago, when the left-wing media tried to spin this reality as some sort of X-men mutant conspiracy theory. No, they are just Nazis, and historically, Nazis use drugs. Particularly as an advantage in war.

 

 

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/russian-mil-declares-ukraine-origin

[Dashinka 24,647]

Would this surprise anyone?

 

Amnesty International DEFENDS report accusing UKRAINE of endangering civilian lives in Putin propaganda coup and says it 'calls out human rights violations no matter who is responsible'

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11083903/Zelensky-fury-Amnesty-International-accuses-UKRAINE-endangering-civilians-lives.html

[Dashinka 24,647]

Oversight?  Anyway, not really a surprise considering the corruption in Ukraine.

 

CBS News deletes tweet claiming only 'like 30%' of US military aid for Ukraine ever reaches the front lines

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-news-deletes-tweet-claiming-only-like-30-us-military-aid-ukraine-ever-reaches-front-lines

[TBoneTX 45,652]

Zelensky Gives Impassioned Plea For More U.S. Money While Wearing Fur Coat And Gold Chain

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/zelensky-gives-impassioned-plea-for-more-us-money-while-wearing-a-fur-coat-and-gold-chain

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,376]

You all about the bee today lol 

[TBoneTX 45,652]

Congress Signs Up For $40 Billion Per Month Ukraine+ Subscription

 

WASHINGTON, D.C. — To avoid fighting over further spending bills, Congress has opted instead to sign up for the brand new subscription service Ukraine+, which only costs $40 billion per month.  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/congress-signs-up-for-40-billionmonth-ukraine-subscription

[TBoneTX 45,652]

Congress Passes Funding Stopgap Bill To Avoid Ukrainian Government Shutdown

 

WASHINGTON, D.C. — In the nick of time, Congress has passed a bipartisan $12 billion funding bill, narrowly avoiding a Ukrainian government shutdown.  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/congress-passes-funding-stopgap-bill-to-avoid-ukrainian-government-shutdown

[TBoneTX 45,652]

Thoughts?

Why Ukraine In NATO Could Be A Nuclear Nightmare For America

 

It should be a no-brainer for America's leaders to permanently slam the door on the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO.  [...]

 

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/04/why-ukraine-in-nato-could-be-a-nuclear-nightmare-for-america/

[Dashinka 24,647]

46 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Thoughts?

Not in favor of Putin's land grab, but it seems like fast tracking NATO membership for Ukraine would be sort of a land grab itself.

[TBoneTX 45,652]

On 10/4/2022 at 11:49 AM, Dashinka said:

fast tracking NATO membership for Ukraine

I don't think that Ukraine belongs under any circumstance.

I would predicate their consideration on their complete transparency regarding Biden payments.

[TBoneTX 45,652]

Sobering.  Comments on this?

Our Strangelovian National Security Class

 

Risk nuclear war with Russia?  Yes, when it's not enough for Washington to wage war on Americans.  [...]

 

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/our-strangelovian-national-security-class/