Update SS and driver license

[HNZ91 70]

Hi, 

 

I got my passport recently and next thing to do is to update SS and my driver license.

 

I have no name change so SS update is just for the country of citizenship.

 

apparently no in-person appointments are available yet for the SS office and I don’t want send my passport via mail. Any problem if I postpone updating my SS for later when the new covid variant cool down and I understand that might take a few months?

[JeanneAdil 6,511]

no real problem  just do it when offices open

[arken 4,197]

21 minutes ago, HNZ91 said:

and I understand that might take a few months?

No problem even if you do it years later.

[El Escocés 217]

I believe you’re in Houston right?

 

What I did was drop off  my application and passport at the local SS office..about a week later, my passport was sent back to me via UPS overnight mail. As others have stated there is no rush to update your SS. I just didn’t wanted to be done with everything. 
 

I then went to the Richmond Mega Center to update my drivers license.  They actually told me that since I had updated it after my green card and still had a more than a couple  of years validity on my drivers license, there was no requirement to update it and to just wait until it was time to actually renew the drivers license. However since I was there, they updated my record anyway.
 

The only advantage was that I would, as a US citizen, be able to renew the license online as opposed to in person. I will test that out in a couple of months as Texas allows you to renew drivers licenses within two years of expiry. 

[ImmiGeek 59]

Technically the SS updates are Automatic if you are not any SS benefit dependent at the moment. Look at my notes (link in my signature). You can log into your SS online account and find whats your current Immi status on it, you can try the same after few weeks to check if it got updated. Look in my notes with links and screen shots.

[El Escocés 217]

10 hours ago, ImmiGeek said:

Technically the SS updates are Automatic if you are not any SS benefit dependent at the moment. Look at my notes (link in my signature). You can log into your SS online account and find whats your current Immi status on it, you can try the same after few weeks to check if it got updated. Look in my notes with links and screen shots.

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/flyers/M-767.pdf

 

https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-expands-partnership-with-social-security-administration

 

I am not doubting your experience so the USCIS need to update their literature 
 

 

[JeanneAdil 6,511]

For information only

 

If your SS card is "restricted"   as for a time limited work authorization as noted on the Card itself,   then its real important to update 

 

as for some internet sites , i just read "need to update to collect SS benefits"  and that is not true

My daughter in law is British / USC and her dad worked in US and moved back to England/ he is collecting SSA as he retired

 

collecting SS benefits (retirement )  can be collected even by a foreign worker who came to US and worked 40 quarters (10 years)  

the person can apply for SS retirement based on work and paying into the SS /medicare system .  that is paying into it only  for SS retirement/  medicare itself  says this 

Specifically, you will qualify for Medicare even if you are not a U.S. citizen if you qualify to receive or currently receive Social Security retirement benefits, Railroad Retirement Benefits (RRB), or Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI). In any of these cases, you will qualify for premium-free Part A. You will owe a premium for Part B.

 

the same with driving license but understand that as  a LPR u may be paying more for car insurance and updating it is important 

that is all dependent on the state rules / laws 

 

https://www.autoinsurance.org/auto-insurance-for-immigrants/

[MrKo 60]

On 1/14/2022 at 8:47 PM, ImmiGeek said:

Technically the SS updates are Automatic if you are not any SS benefit dependent at the moment. Look at my notes (link in my signature). You can log into your SS online account and find whats your current Immi status on it, you can try the same after few weeks to check if it got updated. Look in my notes with links and screen shots.

I cannot find any source saying that the citizenship update at the SS office happens automatically. Everywhere I read says you have to go through a manual process to get it updated. Am I missing something?

[MrKo 60]

On 1/15/2022 at 7:20 AM, El Escocés said:

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/flyers/M-767.pdf

 

https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-expands-partnership-with-social-security-administration

 

I am not doubting your experience so the USCIS need to update their literature 
 

 

The 2nd link is about a change to the Form I-485, "USCIS is revising Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status, to include the additional questions needed to apply for an SSN or a replacement card."

It does not say anything about what happens after a citizenship status change

[ImmiGeek 59]

15 hours ago, MrKo said:

The 2nd link is about a change to the Form I-485, "USCIS is revising Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status, to include the additional questions needed to apply for an SSN or a replacement card."

It does not say anything about what happens after a citizenship status change

I would like to thank you for your keen analysis about this (my) interpretation.

Baseline for my opinion was:

1) The above i485 links that you have given(I think the same happens for N400 also, once the two systems are sync).

2) Also there is a facebook user who has confirmed speaking to the SSA and got the above response. I have copy-pasted that in my USC notes below (link in my signature).

I will update my language as its my own opinion, not official. Thank you again.

[MrKo 60]

2 hours ago, ImmiGeek said:

I would like to thank you for your keen analysis about this (my) interpretation.

Baseline for my opinion was:

1) The above i485 links that you have given(I think the same happens for N400 also, once the two systems are sync).

2) Also there is a facebook user who has confirmed speaking to the SSA and got the above response. I have copy-pasted that in my USC notes below (link in my signature).

I will update my language as its my own opinion, not official. Thank you again.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

In terms of I-485, what I read is that the information forwarding/transferring between the two agencies ONLY happens when an applicant has actually applied (on the new Form I-485) for an SSN or replacement SS card. No automatic information forwarding/transferring takes place if the applicant does not apply for the card on his/her Form I-485.

 

I checked your note link (awesome work btw!). The FB user Ellen's experience with the SS agent updating her info over the phone sounds interesting, but it's not standard practice, at least not in line with all the published rules and policies. As for what she shared, "According to SS Agent, 2 weeks AFTER Naturalization Ceremony data should’ve been updated since USCIS forwards to SS Office the list of who were naturalized." I highly believe that either she or the SS agent got confused. I think what really happens is that 2 weeks after naturalization, data should have been updated in the USCIS SAVE system, so that the SS office will be able to verify your citizenship information when you go and request to update your records.

Edited February 4, 2022 by MrKo