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Hello,

My wife immigrated on her CR-1 visa on Nov 13th, 2021.

I know her stamped visa is proof of her permanent resident status (for one year) and allows her to work.
She also already received her Social Security card (I have to compliment SS on that).

We expected the actual Green Card to come within a few weeks but it has been more than a month and still no card.

I understand that with the stamped visa there is no real urgency to get the card (although we already ran into a few instances where not having the actual card caused confusion and problems).

It would just be nice to finally have the card in hand and be done with all this for at least the next one-and-a-half years. How difficult is it for USCIS to just produce the card and send it in a timely manner, they have all the information and there shouldn't be any further 'processing' or 'decision to be made', right?

I am hoping some VJ'ers have recent experience in receiving their GC so we can have some expectations (and my wife can stop watching the mailbox every day 🙂 )

Thanks,

 

Wouter

 

 

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1 hour ago, Wouter said:

How difficult is it for USCIS to just produce the card and send it in a timely manner, they have all the information and there shouldn't be any further 'processing' or 'decision to be made', right?

If your card was the only one in the queue, you would be correct.  However, they have to produce thousands and thousands of cards.  The stamped passport has ALL the benefits of a plastic card. 

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Mine took 120 days to arrive, this was pre-covid.

“It’s been 84 years…” 

- Me talking about the progress of my I-751

 

 

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~ Moved from IR1/CR1 Process to General Immigration Discussion where GC delivery topics are discussed ~
 

A thread to see what other’s timelines regarding GC arrival are: 

 

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

If your card was the only one in the queue, you would be correct.  However, they have to produce thousands and thousands of cards.  The stamped passport has ALL the benefits of a plastic card. 

Yes, but thousands of cards shouldn't be that hard if you have a proper production line (think of how Visa and MasterCard and even the DMV produce millions of cards each year). It's not like they are made by elves in a workshop by hand...or...perhaps.... 

 

(And by the way, unfortunately, the stamped passport does not confer ALL the benefits. For example, when trying to sing up for a phone plan at AT&T they ask for your immigration status and when you say Permanent Resident they want to take a picture of the front and back of your GC. When you show the stamped passport they just look at you with a puzzled look and say the AT&T software requires a picture of the card and that they simply can't process a passport page with a stamp. Similarly, at the bank they also wanted to see the card. Coming up with a Russian passport to prove your American legal status is just something that is immediately met with skepticism by people who are not familiar with the rules and leave you stuck. Not the worst thing; you can simply go to another phone carrier or bank, but I wouldn't say the stamped passport is completely equivalent to the actual card.)

 

 

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52 minutes ago, Wouter said:

Yes, but thousands of cards shouldn't be that hard if you have a proper production line (think of how Visa and MasterCard and even the DMV produce millions of cards each year). It's not like they are made by elves in a workshop by hand...or...perhaps.... 

 

(And by the way, unfortunately, the stamped passport does not confer ALL the benefits. For example, when trying to sing up for a phone plan at AT&T they ask for your immigration status and when you say Permanent Resident they want to take a picture of the front and back of your GC. When you show the stamped passport they just look at you with a puzzled look and say the AT&T software requires a picture of the card and that they simply can't process a passport page with a stamp. Similarly, at the bank they also wanted to see the card. Coming up with a Russian passport to prove your American legal status is just something that is immediately met with skepticism by people who are not familiar with the rules and leave you stuck. Not the worst thing; you can simply go to another phone carrier or bank, but I wouldn't say the stamped passport is completely equivalent to the actual card.)

 

 

I think Green Cards are a little more complicated.  The queue and Covid have affected delivery of Green Cards. Actually, the stamped passport has ALL the rights of a plastic card.  It identifies the immigrant as a legal resident. The issue you provided is with the AT&T employees and the bank employees...not the stamp.  Hopefully, you will get your plastic card (which is not status, itself) soon.  

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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3 hours ago, Wouter said:

(And by the way, unfortunately, the stamped passport does not confer ALL the benefits. For example, when trying to sing up for a phone plan at AT&T they ask for your immigration status and when you say Permanent Resident they want to take a picture of the front and back of your GC. When you show the stamped passport they just look at you with a puzzled look and say the AT&T software requires a picture of the card and that they simply can't process a passport page with a stamp. Similarly, at the bank they also wanted to see the card. Coming up with a Russian passport to prove your American legal status is just something that is immediately met with skepticism by people who are not familiar with the rules and leave you stuck. Not the worst thing; you can simply go to another phone carrier or bank, but I wouldn't say the stamped passport is completely equivalent to the actual card.)

What bank are you dealing with? I got my husband added to my bank account before he even had set foot in the US or had a visa. Some banks are better about this than others. Our bank was USAA (which is not available to everyone) but I know some are very skeptical of Russians (I've heard Chase bank) and others are nicer and more understanding.

 

If you ever plan to send money to/from Russia and the US, ask the bank about it beforehand. Some banks will look at you like you're a criminal for merely asking the question. Others don't care at all. We've had good luck with smaller, local banks and Capital One for that.

 

 

🇷🇺 CR-1 via DCF (Dec 2016-Jun 2017) & I-751 ROC (Apr 2019-Oct 2019)🌹

Spoiler

Info about my DCF Moscow* experience here and here

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad in Russia 👩‍❤️‍👨 See guide here
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

🇺🇸 N-400 Application for Naturalization (Apr 2020-Jun 2021) 🛂

Spoiler

Filed during Covid-19 & moved states 1 month after filing

30-Mar-2020: N-400 early filing window opens!

01-Apr-2020: Filed N-400 online 💻 

02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

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