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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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I had my mother's GC interview last week in the USA. I am the USC sponsor and petitioner. The interview centered on going over the I-485 application and verifying all the information.

My mom took help of an interpreter over phone while I sat next to her in the room with the officer. Everything went absolutely fine except for one question on the I-485-" have you ever denied a USA visa". The answer on the I-485 form to this question was - NO. Mom answered NO.. that tallied up and the officer was about to move to the next question but I interjected and said mom your visitor visa was denied the first time back in 2008 to that mom said "I remember I that i had to go for the visitor visa interview twice... "

 

The officer asked what was the reason for the denied to which the mother said she does not really know. However the officer was not convinced and said he was going to continue my mom's case and do a background check and she will to wait for 120 says to hear back.

In the hindsight I think I made a blunder by interjecting and saying the visitor visa was denied when in fact it was refused with a 221g...

I believe visa denial and visa refusal are different things and I should not have interjected and caused un-necessary confusion.

Is there anything I can do now to mitigate this situation?

 

 

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Technically, a 221g refusal is a denial...... but the vast, vast majority of visitor visa denials are due to lack of strong ties to home country......which would have no effect on her adjustment.  I wouldn't worry about it.  Just let it play out.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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21 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Technically, a 221g refusal is a denial...... but the vast, vast majority of visitor visa denials are due to lack of strong ties to home country......which would have no effect on her adjustment.  I wouldn't worry about it.  Just let it play out.

Thank you!. Yes I do think lack of documentation showing strong ties to home country  was the main reason for 221g visitor visa refusal back in 2008 .... and yes i think not worrying about it at this point is what I should do...Hopefully the  case gets approved soon.

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Better to disclose it now than to have it come up in any subsequent background checks.  If it was for lack of ties, it should not matter, my wife was denied a B2 twice prior to our K1 journey and it had no bearing.

 

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Lack of ties/suspected immigrant intent would've been 214(b). 221(g) is usually a denial for missing documents or administrative processing.

 

4 hours ago, Vabsmith said:

that tallied up and the officer was about to move to the next question but I interjected and said mom your visitor visa was denied the first time back in 2008 to that mom said "I remember I that i had to go for the visitor visa interview twice... "

What do you mean she had to go twice? She was called 2 times for the same visa application or she applied on two different occasions and was denied each time?

 

You didn't blunder by interjecting, but it was a blunder not to mention prior visa refusals on the paperwork. It sounds like the 120 days background check is just going to result in USCIS researching her past visa denial history and the reasons for it, that's all. It seems like a pretty logical conclusion since she was in fact denied but stated the opposite on the paperwork. If she was denied for standard reasons like lack of ties it's probably no big deal, will just take more time now because they have to do the background check.

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1 hour ago, millefleur said:

Lack of ties/suspected immigrant intent would've been 214(b). 221(g) is usually a denial for missing documents or administrative processing.

 

What do you mean she had to go twice? She was called 2 times for the same visa application or she applied on two different occasions and was denied each time?

 

You didn't blunder by interjecting, but it was a blunder not to mention prior visa refusals on the paperwork. It sounds like the 120 days background check is just going to result in USCIS researching her past visa denial history and the reasons for it, that's all. It seems like a pretty logical conclusion since she was in fact denied but stated the opposite on the paperwork. If she was denied for standard reasons like lack of ties it's probably no big deal, will just take more time now because they have to do the background check.

She was given 221g first time she applied for the visitor visa. She applied again after three months and the visitor visa was approved. This was back in 2008 and since then she has traveled several times back and forth to the USA. Yes the form had answered the question wrong. Any guess on how long the background check might take?

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2 minutes ago, Vabsmith said:

She was given 221g first time she applied for the visitor visa. She applied again after three months and the visitor visa was approved. This was back in 2008 and since then she has traveled several times back and forth to the USA. Yes the form had answered the question wrong. Any guess on how long the background check might take?

OK that makes sense, she might've just had extra administrative processing for whatever reason. I don't think there's anything to worry about.

 

Background check will take what it takes, if they said 120 days then maybe just assume the worst and she'll just have to wait.

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17-Jan-2017: Case number received

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Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

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Filed during Covid-19 & moved states 1 month after filing

30-Mar-2020: N-400 early filing window opens!

01-Apr-2020: Filed N-400 online 💻 

02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

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Much ado about nothing. Parents petitions are among the easiest. Whether refused or denied, in this context essentially the same thing aka cool beans! You will both be smiling sooner than later.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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An update on this topic. Today I see the case status shows- the I-485 was approved. So I believe the mother should receive her green card in mail soon. So apparently the check they wanted to do did not take much time. Thank you all.

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221G is not a denial, its a refusal with a reason and they give an option to give additional paperwork/details about the open issue mentioned on the 221G notice. Its NOT a SLAM-DUNK denial. BUT... a 221G may finally turn into a denial if the given open options are not closed(such as no response or given response time on 221G expired etc.)

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