I - 751 January 2022 Filers

[Crazy Cat 41,985]

2 minutes ago, Jazii said:

Why cant they use the same time to print green card.

Big difference between printing an extension letter and adjudicating an I-751 case. 

Edited March 9, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Jazii 30]

11 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Big difference between printing an extension letter and adjudicating an I-751 case. 

Sure.

[OldUser 6,999]

15 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Big difference between printing an extension letter and adjudicating an I-751 case. 

For sure, I think what @Jazii meant extending the validity of conditional resident card by issuing a new card with new end date instead of extension letter.

 

Say, somebody's GC expires 01/01/2023. Similar to 48 month extension letter, USCIS could issue GC ending 01/01/2027. Then no airline or employer would be confused about those extension letters. But it's only in our dreams...

 

 

[Rocio0010 5,580]

8 minutes ago, OldUser said:

For sure, I think what @Jazii meant extending the validity of conditional resident card by issuing a new card with new end date instead of extension letter.

 

Say, somebody's GC expires 01/01/2023. Similar to 48 month extension letter, USCIS could issue GC ending 01/01/2027. Then no airline or employer would be confused about those extension letters. But it's only in our dreams...

 

 

How about we just got rid of 751s altogether since the denial rate is super low.

Plus, let’s think about it from a practical point of view: in theory, the 751 was enacted to prevent marriage fraud. Therefore, by extending the extension letters for 48 months they would just be allowing people to perpetuate fraud for four effing years. 
 

[Jazii 30]

12 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

How about we just got rid of 751s altogether since the denial rate is super low.

Plus, let’s think about it from a practical point of view: in theory, the 751 was enacted to prevent marriage fraud. Therefore, by extending the extension letters for 48 months they would just be allowing people to perpetuate fraud 

We can easily say that there is no order or system that USCIS follow. Who can say anything to USCIS? They can do whatever they want. People treating USCIS like GOD  Recently, people going for N400 interviews saying that officer hold their N400 cases because officer does not get their I 751 file in system. Seems like there is no system in such a big agency. How can u mismanage such things. Os it thay hard to get file in their system before interview. Wasting resources. People are already frustrated as their cases are pending for such a long time and when they go for their interviews thinking everything will get sorted out now, the officer says " we dont have ur other file" . Like what USCIS want us to do. Driving to another office to pgysically get our file for them. We can do that too BTW ..haha. Everything is connected to A number. But they show us like they need to drive to national benefit center to get our file I know some people still get combo interview. But it should be a matter of luck. It must be organized. USCIS is not only wasting our time but also they are wasting their own resources. Just saying

[OldUser 6,999]

24 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

How about we just got rid of 751s altogether since the denial rate is super low.

Plus, let’s think about it from a practical point of view: in theory, the 751 was enacted to prevent marriage fraud. Therefore, by extending the extension letters for 48 months they would just be allowing people to perpetuate fraud for four effing years. 
 

I think there's a difference between allowing fraud for 4 years vs allowing it for the rest of the life (could be 40 years). Fraud could be caught during N-400, but it can become more difficult if somebody applies under 5 year rule. Plus another stage in immigration process is another review and another opportunity to catch fraud.

 

I lost the thread with I-751 stats, but don't forget the big numbers... Even with 2% denial rate for each 100000 cases we're talking about 2000 potential fraudsters. That's a small town! And if naturalized, they're going to use all the benefits this country has to offer. In a lot of cases they'll sponsor somebody else (spouse, kids, parents) meaning even more people piggibacking on that fraudster.

 

 

[Fe.Ta 874]

5 minutes ago, OldUser said:

I think there's a difference between allowing fraud for 4 years vs allowing it for the rest of the life (could be 40 years). Fraud could be caught during N-400, but it can become more difficult if somebody applies under 5 year rule. Plus another stage in immigration process is another review and another opportunity to catch fraud.

 

I lost the thread with I-751 stats, but don't forget the big numbers... Even with 2% denial rate for each 100000 cases we're talking about 2000 potential fraudsters. That's a small town! And if naturalized, they're going to use all the benefits this country has to offer. In a lot of cases they'll sponsor somebody else (spouse, kids, parents) meaning even more people piggibacking on that fraudster.

 

 

It is the way the checkpoint (AKA 751) is handled that is the pain.  It is the lack of efficiency, which is USCIS’ motto.

Edited March 9, 2023 by Fe.Ta
Na

[Rocio0010 5,580]

7 minutes ago, OldUser said:

I think there's a difference between allowing fraud for 4 years vs allowing it for the rest of the life (could be 40 years). Fraud could be caught during N-400, but it can become more difficult if somebody applies under 5 year rule. Plus another stage in immigration process is another review and another opportunity to catch fraud.

 

I lost the thread with I-751 stats, but don't forget the big numbers... Even with 2% denial rate for each 100000 cases we're talking about 2000 potential fraudsters. That's a small town! And if naturalized, they're going to use all the benefits this country has to offer. In a lot of cases they'll sponsor somebody else (spouse, kids, parents) meaning even more people piggibacking on that fraudster.

 

 

I have a much better idea than just having to send a whole bunch of papers and wait for four years to be approved. 
Instead of wasting time and resources on the 751s, USCIS could implement a policy of visiting applicants a certain number of times during the span of three years. There is no better way to prove the bona fide of a relationship than paying a visit on a random weeknight. If you pass those visits then you’re good to apply for N400 at the three year mark.

 

What bugs me is the fact that they do have the time and resources to print out 2039484929 48- month extension letters, but they don’t have the time to skim through packages and approve them.

[OldUser 6,999]

3 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

What bugs me is the fact that they do have the time and resources to print out 2039484929 48- month extension letters, but they don’t have the time to skim through packages and approve them.

Generating and printing letters is simple as 1-2-3, it's all automated, software can do it. But adjudicating cases requires human intervention...

 

But I get what you're saying. They should do their job better!

Edited March 9, 2023 by OldUser

[sarahinam 19]

Has anyone received 2 NOAs? I received one months ago and then two weeks ago they sent the same exact letter?

 

751 submitted a year ago and N400 submitted three months and a half ago

[Allaboutwaiting 2,503]

12 minutes ago, sarahinam said:

Has anyone received 2 NOAs? I received one months ago and then two weeks ago they sent the same exact letter?

 

751 submitted a year ago and N400 submitted three months and a half ago

Isn't it the 48 month extension? 

[sarahinam 19]

Just now, Allaboutwaiting said:

Isn't it the 48 month extension? 

Yes, they sent it twice months apart though. It was a duplicate. Just wondering if it’s common or not

[Allaboutwaiting 2,503]

2 minutes ago, sarahinam said:

Yes, they sent it twice months apart though. It was a duplicate. Just wondering if it’s common or not

Both extend the GC for 48 months? Because they used to send the 24, then they sent a few for 36 and just a month ago they began with the 48.

[Sarge2155 4,590]

3 hours ago, Jazii said:

So weird. They have time to print 2 pages for extension notice. Why cant they use the same time to print green card. Strange

With USCIS who knows!

[Jazii 30]

14 hours ago, Jazii said:

We can easily say that there is no order or system that USCIS follow. Who can say anything to USCIS? They can do whatever they want. People treating USCIS like GOD  Recently, people going for N400 interviews saying that officer hold their N400 cases because officer does not get their I 751 file in system. Seems like there is no system in such a big agency. How can u mismanage such things. Os it thay hard to get file in their system before interview. Wasting resources. People are already frustrated as their cases are pending for such a long time and when they go for their interviews thinking everything will get sorted out now, the officer says " we dont have ur other file" . Like what USCIS want us to do. Driving to another office to pgysically get our file for them. We can do that too BTW ..haha. Everything is connected to A number. But they show us like they need to drive to national benefit center to get our file I know some people still get combo interview. But it should be a matter of luck. It must be organized. USCIS is not only wasting our time but also they are wasting their own resources. Just saying

Correction- should NOT be a matter of luck