I751 Detroit discussion

[JRCR 4]

Hey there. We are getting ready to send in our i751 + “packet” of evidence. I assumed this is sufficient for the adjustment of status on the green card, or do people actually get called in for interviews regarding the i751? We already went to USCIS Detroit for the initial green card interview, so I guess another interview seems redundant in my opinion. Does anyone know if it’s common or uncommon to be called for an interview, particularly in Michigan? Also, I read in the evidence request instructions about a written affidavit from friends or family. Is that a SUGGESTION, or REQUIREMENT? We’re putting this together around the holidays and no one has time for that honestly. Plus, it’s low key embarrassing. We’ve been married for over 2 years and have to go to the mercy of someone we know asking them to prove our relationship is legitimate? I’d rather not. People always look at us like it’s crazy all the hoops we have to jump through even after all this time and it’s exhausting and embarrassing explaining it to people who are very unfamiliar with the immigration process for spouses. Anyway…Any personal experience would be appreciated regarding those 2 topics! Thanks. 

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

1.  Interviews for removal of conditions are common....as are RFEs for insufficient evidence.  Waiving an interview is completely at the discretion of USCIS.  I would not assume the ROC interview will be waived, as they are not redundant.

2.  Personal affidavits are not required.   They are weak evidence.

Edited December 19, 2021 by Crazy Cat

[Rocio0010 5,579]

26 minutes ago, JRCR said:

or do people actually get called in for interviews regarding the i751

Yes, they do. If you spend some time on the i751 forum, you’ll read several cases of interviews. Some people that had an AOS interview get their interview waived for ROC, some don’t. It’s completely up to the officer to waive or not.

Affidavits are considered weak evidence compared to other evidence. Especially evidence of financial comingling. When are you filing? I am filing end of January/ beginning of February and I made a new thread for February filers. 

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

Here is the wording by USCIS, itself.  It appears I-751 evidence is extremely important.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/uscis-revises-interview-waiver-guidance-for-form-i-751

 

Generally, USCIS officers must interview a conditional permanent resident who is the principal petitioner on a Form I-751, unless the interview is waived. This guidance explains that officers may consider waiving an interview if they are satisfied that:

• They can make a decision based on the record because it contains sufficient evidence about the bona fides of the marriage and that the marriage was not entered into in order to evade U.S. immigration laws;
• For Form I-751 cases received on or after December 10, 2018, USCIS has previously interviewed the principal petitioner;
• There is no indication of fraud or misrepresentation in the Form I-751 or the supporting documentation; and
• There are no complex facts or issues that require an interview to resolve.

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by Crazy Cat

[Rocio0010 5,579]

Also another aspect to consider is that the evidence needs to cover THE WHOLE time span of the marriage from the moment you got married up until you send the i751 package. And once you send the package you keep collecting evidence in case you get a RFE down the road.

[SalishSea 17,824]

2 hours ago, JRCR said:

Hey there. We are getting ready to send in our i751 + “packet” of evidence. I assumed this is sufficient for the adjustment of status on the green card, or do people actually get called in for interviews regarding the i751? We already went to USCIS Detroit for the initial green card interview, so I guess another interview seems redundant in my opinion. Does anyone know if it’s common or uncommon to be called for an interview, particularly in Michigan? Also, I read in the evidence request instructions about a written affidavit from friends or family. Is that a SUGGESTION, or REQUIREMENT? We’re putting this together around the holidays and no one has time for that honestly. Plus, it’s low key embarrassing. We’ve been married for over 2 years and have to go to the mercy of someone we know asking them to prove our relationship is legitimate? I’d rather not. People always look at us like it’s crazy all the hoops we have to jump through even after all this time and it’s exhausting and embarrassing explaining it to people who are very unfamiliar with the immigration process for spouses. Anyway…Any personal experience would be appreciated regarding those 2 topics! Thanks. 

We sent our ROC packet off the first of the month, and we did not include any affidavits.   We have commingled our lives as would be expected for people our age, and we sent plenty of that evidence.

 

Our petition is at Nebraska (vs MSC), so we hope that means it will be approved without another interview.

 

I doubt very much the local field office has anything to do with whether you get an interview; it’s much more related to whether you had one for AOS, and whether anything questionable to the IO came up at that time.

 

Good luck!

Edited December 19, 2021 by Jorgedig

[Rocio0010 5,579]

5 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

We sent our ROC packet off the first of the month, and we did not include any affidavits.   We have commingled our lives as would be expected for people our age, and we sent plenty of that evidence.

 

Our petition is at Nebraska (vs MSC), so we hope that means it will be approved without another interview.

 

I doubt very much the local field office has anything to do with whether you get an interview; it’s much more related to whether you had one for AOS, and whether anything questionable to the IO came up at that time.

 

Good luck!

So just so I know, MSC is likely to have interviews waived. What are the three letters of the centers that do not?

Im also wondering what’s going to happen in my case, because even though our interview was cancelled, we got approved after we mailed our evidence. That I know of, we are the only ones with an “indirect” approval.

[SalishSea 17,824]

4 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

So just so I know, MSC is likely to have interviews waived. What are the three letters of the centers that do not?

Im also wondering what’s going to happen in my case, because even though our interview was cancelled, we got approved after we mailed our evidence. That I know of, we are the only ones with an “indirect” approval.

No, MSC (national benefits center) is likely to be given an interview.

 

All others are less likely to have an interview, so that would be LIN, YSL, TSC, WAC, and Vermont.

 

If be very surprised if anyone who has never had a USCIS interview gets a waiver. Stranger things have happened, though.

 

There were other VJ members who, during the early days of the pandemic, had AOS approved without an interview.   The one who comes to mind is @Sarge2155.

Edited December 19, 2021 by Jorgedig

[Rocio0010 5,579]

1 minute ago, Jorgedig said:

No, MSC (national benefits center) is likely to be given an interview.

 

All others are less likely to have an interview, so that would be LIN, YSL, TSC, WAC, and Vermont.

 

If be very surprised if anyone who has never had a USCIS interview gets a waiver. Stranger things have happened, though.

I’ve read of one case of a person that never got an interview until citizenship. And it was marriage- based. We really don’t mind having an interview, it’s just curiosity.

My package is almost ready to go (except that I still need to actually fill out the I-751 hahaha). I’m a teacher, so my winter break starts really soon. Well, guess what I’ll be doing! Lol

[SalishSea 17,824]

3 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

I’ve read of one case of a person that never got an interview until citizenship. And it was marriage- based. We really don’t mind having an interview, it’s just curiosity.

My package is almost ready to go (except that I still need to actually fill out the I-751 hahaha). I’m a teacher, so my winter break starts really soon. Well, guess what I’ll be doing! Lol

Was it someone who had adjusted from a K-1?

[Rocio0010 5,579]

6 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Was it someone who had adjusted from a K-1?

Yep. I found the user timeline. However, he was granted citizenship in 2014, so that means it was almost three administrations before… a lot has changed since then. 
https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/profile.php?id=25178

[SalishSea 17,824]

1 hour ago, ra0010 said:

Yep. I found the user timeline. However, he was granted citizenship in 2014, so that means it was almost three administrations before… a lot has changed since then. 
https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/profile.php?id=25178

Hmm, well the interview dates are not filled in, but can we be sure they truly did not have an interview for AOS/ROC?  I don't see confirmation of that on their timeline.

 

Especially being from a high-fraud country, would be very surprised if it happened this way.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

Just now, Jorgedig said:

Hmm, well the interview dates are not filled in, but can we be sure they truly did not have an interview for AOS/ROC?  I don't see confirmation of that on their timeline.

 

Especially being from a high-fraud country, would be very surprised if it happened this way.

He mentioned it in a comment on a thread

[SalishSea 17,824]

1 minute ago, ra0010 said:

He mentioned it in a comment on a thread

Ah, okay.

[Carpe Vinum 2,327]

13 hours ago, ra0010 said:

I’ve read of one case of a person that never got an interview until citizenship. And it was marriage- based. We really don’t mind having an interview, it’s just curiosity.

My package is almost ready to go (except that I still need to actually fill out the I-751 hahaha). I’m a teacher, so my winter break starts really soon. Well, guess what I’ll be doing! Lol

This was the norm up until around 2016 or so.

Edited December 20, 2021 by Carpe Vinum