affidavit of birth Birth Affidavit incase of non availability of birth certificate

[ovi666 7]

Hi guys.

If we are to provide a Birth Affidavit (third party) in place of birth certificate, then can those affidavits only be made by the people who are elder than the person whom the affidavit is for, or someone younger can make that affidavit to?

[Mike E 11,739]

11 minutes ago, Ovais KHAN said:

Hi guys.

If we are to provide a Birth Affidavit (third party) in place of birth certificate, then can those affidavits only be made by the people who are elder than the person whom the affidavit is for, or someone younger can make that affidavit to?

If there are people who were around during the time of birth and can recall the events, such as seeing the beneficiary as a new born with the parents, then there what State / DHS wants to see.  

[Zoeeeeeee 797]

It makes sense that they would have to be older than whoever the affidavit is for - as they are certifying that they know the birth took place on xxx day. If they were younger, they would have no way of knowing of that, as they couldn't possibly have been there - instead, they'd just be writing what someone else told them, which doesn't really prove anything. 

 

https://citizenpath.com/faq/sample-affidavit-birth/

[arken 4,197]

Can't be younger as they wouldn't be around during birth. Affidavit by people just few years older than the person of interest will likely not accepted as well. "I certify that i saw/was around when Mrs. Xxx giving birth to Mr. X when i was 3 years old" might not fly.

[JeanneAdil 6,498]

Secondary birth evidence is required to be provided as well and includes but is not limited to the following: school leaving certificates, ration cards, church / baptismal records, hospital records, and medical records

 

Have u been issued a National ID or a passport from your country?

 

Affidavits are not the best evidence

[ovi666 7]

10 hours ago, arken said:

Can't be younger as they wouldn't be around during birth. Affidavit by people just few years older than the person of interest will likely not accepted as well. "I certify that i saw/was around when Mrs. Xxx giving birth to Mr. X when i was 3 years old" might not fly.

Ok so then what are we supposed to do if the applicant is over 76 years old already and there isn't anybody alive who is older than her?

[ovi666 7]

9 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

Secondary birth evidence is required to be provided as well and includes but is not limited to the following: school leaving certificates, ration cards, church / baptismal records, hospital records, and medical records

 

Have u been issued a National ID or a passport from your country?

 

Affidavits are not the best evidence

Well actually I am asking for my mother, whom eventually I plan to sponsor once I get naturalized, just completing everything beforehand, she is already 76 years of age and there are just a few people who are elder than her remaining alive, that too only by 3-4 months elder than her, and back in the day when she was born, there used to be no birth certificate, no hospital record (probably she was born at the home) etc. She does have the passport though.

[JeanneAdil 6,498]

5 hours ago, Ovais KHAN said:

Well actually I am asking for my mother, whom eventually I plan to sponsor once I get naturalized, just completing everything beforehand, she is already 76 years of age and there are just a few people who are elder than her remaining alive, that too only by 3-4 months elder than her, and back in the day when she was born, there used to be no birth certificate, no hospital record (probably she was born at the home) etc. She does have the passport though.

U are asking about birth record for an elderly citizen then?

probably no one around that knows about her birth 

does passport have a DOB like ours in the US?

then use that and ask her what she used to prove her birth date

[Mike E 11,739]

6 hours ago, Ovais KHAN said:

Ok so then what are we supposed to do if the applicant is over 76 years old already and there isn't anybody alive who is older than her?

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Pakistan.html (assuming she was   citizen) the state department doesn’t see to allow you to submit affidavits. Instead is outlines a procedure for getting a birth certificate or a late registration birth certificate or acceptable alternative document:

 

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Applicants must visit their local Union Council, fill out a form, and provide identification. The process for late registration is more complex, requiring two affidavits to be submitted to the concerning authority (the municipal corporation or small claims court, depending on the length of time after birth).  The concerning authority then issues a letter to the Union Council authorizing the late entry. Once this process has been completed, the applicants may visit the Union Council to register.

Certified Copies Available: Certified copies are available.

Alternate Documents: In lieu of a birth certificate, Pakistanis often use Child Registration Certificates or Family Registration Certificates (FRC), which list all family members and document each member’s relationship to the other.

Exceptions: None

Comments: Birth records are inconsistent because most people only request one when required for a specific reason. Late-registered births are thus quite common.  In cases when the date of birth is in issue (such as age-limited immigrant visa classes), other contemporaneous documents such as school records are often reviewed. Birth certificates can be in either English or Urdu with English translation.”