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13 minutes ago, laylalex said:

No, you misunderstand what I'm saying. The data may be incomplete, or misleading, etc. but the people who work with this data understand its worth and limitations. The data is supposed to act like a canary in the coal mine: like look here, something may be happening. It's the first step, not the end point. That's all. Some of the data is junk, some is very useful, some is neutral. 

If we are talking canary in a coal mine, then there appears to be a lot of data available.  Also, as I mentioned earlier, given an experimental drug, it should be guilty until proven innocent relative to any adverse reaction that occurs after getting one of these vaccines.

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3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

If we are talking canary in a coal mine, then there appears to be a lot of data available.  Also, as I mentioned earlier, given an experimental drug, it should be guilty until proven innocent relative to any adverse reaction that occurs after getting one of these vaccines.

You get it.  Not everyone does.  VAERS data has been collected since 1990.  But SUDDENLY, it means nothing.  A Xmas miracle, apparently.

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10 hours ago, yuna628 said:

the vaccine gave them a prehensile tail

This had better NOT be one of the side effects -- how could I ever face my family and friends?

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So let's just say for the sake of argument this who database means something. I know most of the experts say it doesn't, but let's just play devils adcovete to the conspiracy theory folks.

 Since there has been less .00030  reactions of any kind including minor ones like  sore arm, headaches, chills etc. Would not the database disprove your point not prove it.

 

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10 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

So let's just say for the sake of argument this who database means something. I know most of the experts say it doesn't, but let's just play devils adcovete to the conspiracy theory folks.

 Since there has been less .00030  reactions of any kind including minor ones like  sore arm, headaches, chills etc. Would not the database disprove your point not prove it.

 

We should note that 10 hours later,  none of our esteemed body of VJ epidemiologists has been able to provide the information you seek. We must not have the 24x7 service package. 

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2 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

We should note that 10 hours later,  none of our esteemed body of VJ epidemiologists has been able to provide the information you seek. We must not have the 24x7 service package. 

Just wait until the ground hog effect kicks in tomorrow and it all starts over again like it has never been discussed.  

 

Seems several have Goldfield's syndrome 

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On 12/4/2021 at 4:45 PM, LIBrty4all said:

It was a GREAT and widely-accepted system until covid came along.  Then suddenly, the data became anecdotal or meaningless.   :rolleyes:

 

(At least for SOME)

The FDA and the CDC were great and widely-accepted until covid became a political  football. Now we are lead to believe that it is amazing the us medical establishment is not a genocide machine. 

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4 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Just wait until the ground hog effect kicks in tomorrow and it all starts over again like it has never been discussed.  

 

Seems several have Goldfield's syndrome 

Shout to our friend John Fogerty...

 

 

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It would seem that a adverse reaction rate of less than .00030 makes 

 the vaccine safer than the 2019 Airline fatalities rate of .0005 per 100k flight hours.

 

Since and adverse reaction could be anything as mild as a sore arm,  it appears flying commercial is way more dangerous than getting the Jab, according to the WHO database. 

 

People need to stop living in fear.

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17 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

devils adcovete

adcovfefe

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06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

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04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted
9 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

It would seem that a adverse reaction rate of less than .00030 makes 

 the vaccine safer than the 2019 Airline fatalities rate of .0005 per 100k flight hours.

 

Since and adverse reaction could be anything as mild as a sore arm,  it appears flying commercial is way more dangerous than getting the Jab, according to the WHO database. 

 

People need to stop living in fear.

Almost as low as your odds of dying of covid. Your right. People need to stop living in fear. Especially over a virus that isn't all that deadly.

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