F1 Rejection

[SalishSea 17,829]

7 hours ago, FrankEPatrick said:

thanks talking about the I-20 process

Irrelevent.  Consulate still has the say over F-1 visas.

[FrankEPatrick 1]

understood the consulate has the power but generally there is some filter to make it likely people make it through the process. 

Is it also somewhat country specific as well? 

[Rocio0010 5,579]

5 minutes ago, FrankEPatrick said:

generally there is some filter to make it likely people make it through the process. 

The filter is the ties to home country. The I-20, in terms of obtaining the visa, has no bearing. The I-20 is useful for F1 students in case they get pulled over by authorities -it’s the document that explains why they are here. 

[FrankEPatrick 1]

16 hours ago, ra0010 said:

I can only speak about my experience. Maybe it helps. When I applied for my F1, I came to my interview with a document from my host university (I believe it was the i-20?) and I also presented ties to my home country, such as the deed to my property. I don't recall bringing anything else onto my interview. I was asked just three questions, such as "what is your master's on?" and "where is your host university?". The rest was just small talk. Very easy.

your situation fits my view, a deed to property is strong evidence......thanks the chat has helped. 

the discussion was around me as the brother-in-law-----now the information she did not share is that I own property (info shared), but I am actually not in the area (information not shared) and I can document it---

[FrankEPatrick 1]

4 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

The filter is the ties to home country. The I-20, in terms of obtaining the visa, has no bearing. The I-20 is useful for F1 students in case they get pulled over by authorities -it’s the document that explains why they are here. 

I have seen alot of I-20's denied  

[arken 4,197]

1 hour ago, FrankEPatrick said:

I have seen alot of I-20's denied  

I-20 gets denied by the school, not the embassy.

[arken 4,197]

1 hour ago, FrankEPatrick said:

me as the brother-in-law-----now the information she did not share is that I own property (info shared), but I am actually not in the area (information not shared) and I can document it---

How does you, as a brother in law, owning the property shows the applicant's ties to the country?

[Rocio0010 5,579]

5 hours ago, arken said:

How does you, as a brother in law, owning the property shows the applicant's ties to the country?

Exactly. Am I missing something?

[Rocio0010 5,579]

7 hours ago, FrankEPatrick said:

I have seen alot of I-20's denied  

I don’t think I-20s get denied, because the school issues them once the candidate is accepted.

[FrankEPatrick 1]

2 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

Exactly. Am I missing something?

according to her, the investigator was fixated on me.

 

I agreed to provide housing that I do not live-in as part of the I-20 process but the fact that I do not live in it was not mentioned in the process. 

2 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

I don’t think I-20s get denied, because the school issues them once the candidate is accepted.

the university will fail to issue them if they do not meet certain criteria. 

[Rocio0010 5,579]

1 minute ago, FrankEPatrick said:

according to her, the investigator was fixated on me.

 

I agreed to provide housing that I do not live-in as part of the I-20 process but the fact that I do not live in it was not mentioned in the process. 

But why would the housing be relevant when it’s not your application?

[FrankEPatrick 1]

2 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

But why would the housing be relevant when it’s not your application?

I had to disclose the housing as part of the support package. 

[Coco8 1,042]

So there are a lot of red flags that I mentioned as hypothetical and now you are giving information in line with the hypotheticals:

 

1- Candidate is going to community college. Community colleges admit everyone so it's a very low bar. 

2- Candidate is going to college in the area in which you live. So it's not based on education interest, but on location.

3- You are paying or providing funds to support college and you immigrated to the US through fiance visa

4- Weak ties to country for candidate. I think you said something about a potential job offer, but was that a sincere offer or is the  person who signed it related in some way to your family or an unknown business?

5- Iran is country of origin

 

This is more "I want to be in the US to immigrate or spend time with brother or sister" than "I want to be in the US to study something and then go back to country". 

 

I'm not sure how owning a house matters. Support is usually cash in a bank account, not a property because to make pay for tuition you'd have to sell it.

 

 

Edited November 13, 2021 by Coco8

[FrankEPatrick 1]

8 minutes ago, Coco8 said:

So there are a lot of red flags that I mentioned as hypothetical and now you are giving information in line with the hypotheticals:

 

1- Candidate is going to community college. Community colleges admit everyone so it's a very low bar. 

2- Candidate is going to college in the area in which you live. So it's not based on education interest, but on location.

3- You are paying or providing funds to support college and you immigrated to the US through fiance visa

4- Weak ties to country for candidate. I think you said something about a potential job offer, but was that a sincere offer or is the  person who signed it related in some way to your family or an unknown business?

5- Iran is country of origin

 

This is more "I want to be in the US to immigrate or spend time with brother or sister" than "I want to be in the US to study something and then go back to country". 

 

I'm not sure how owning a house matters. Support is usually cash in a bank account, not a property because to make pay for tuition you'd have to sell it.

 

 

those are all of the problems

 

agreed

 

[arken 4,197]

23 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

I don’t think I-20s get denied, because the school issues them once the candidate is accepted.

Agreed, yeah i meant not issued to begin with.

1 hour ago, FrankEPatrick said:

the investigator was fixated on me.

Of course he would be. A brother in law paying for her study, lodging ,fooding and trying for community college seems too good to be true and just a way to get into the US more than the study in COs eyes.