Travel To USA (Visa Expiration Question)

[TomoMontenegro 15]

hello , want to ask , we have Visa wich expire  in 21/DEC/2021 , and we have in plan to travel 10/DEC/2021 , will be there any problem or Covid19 Block till Decembar? do any one have infos, or need to be vaccinated , thanks

[SteveInBostonI130 3,434]

5 minutes ago, TomoMontenegro said:

hello , want to ask , we have Visa wich expire  in 21/DEC/2021 , and we have in plan to travel 10/DEC/2021 , will be there any problem or Covid19 Block till Decembar? do any one have infos, or need to be vaccinated , thanks

I do not believe Montenegro is part of the EU travel ban.  You can travel to the US as long as your connecting flight does not go through any of the banned countries.

 

There was an announcement that in November the US will allow fully vaccinated travellers from the 26 shengen area countries and others that are on the travel ban.  The countries that were not on the travel ban are not affected (that is, there is no vaccine requirement).  For now, at least.

 

You will need a negative result from a PCR covid test 72 hours prior to your arrival in the US.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

The Covid travel ban is NOT relevant to anyone with an immigrant visa anyway. Everyone needs a Covid test done within 3 days of flying to the US.

[TomoMontenegro 15]

2 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

The Covid travel ban is NOT relevant to anyone with an immigrant visa anyway. Everyone needs a Covid test done within 3 days of flying to the US.

Thank you 

5 minutes ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

I do not believe Montenegro is part of the EU travel ban.  You can travel to the US as long as your connecting flight does not go through any of the banned countries.

 

There was an announcement that in November the US will allow fully vaccinated travellers from the 26 shengen area countries and others that are on the travel ban.  The countries that were not on the travel ban are not affected (that is, there is no vaccine requirement).  For now, at least.

 

You will need a negative result from a PCR covid test 72 hours prior to your arrival in the US.

thanks ❤️🙏

[SteveInBostonI130 3,434]

4 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

The Covid travel ban is NOT relevant to anyone with an immigrant visa anyway. Everyone needs a Covid test done within 3 days of flying to the US.

My mistake, I thought the OP was talking about a tourist visa.

 

@TomoMontenegro, you can ignore what I posted about not connecting through a travel banned country.   If this is a CR1/IR1 visa, you can travel from anywhere and connect through anywhere.  As SusieQQQ mentioned, the negative covid test still applies.

[TomoMontenegro 15]

3 minutes ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

My mistake, I thought the OP was talking about a tourist visa.

 

@TomoMontenegro, you can ignore what I posted about not connecting through a travel banned country.   If this is a CR1/IR1 visa, you can travel from anywhere and connect through anywhere.  As SusieQQQ mentioned, the negative covid test still applies.

not your mistake , its was my mistake wich i dint describe that ,  im not sure about CR1/IR1 is , i know that we have  family F4 visa application from father's brother 

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

11 minutes ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

My mistake, I thought the OP was talking about a tourist visa.

 

@TomoMontenegro, you can ignore what I posted about not connecting through a travel banned country.   If this is a CR1/IR1 visa, you can travel from anywhere and connect through anywhere.  As SusieQQQ mentioned, the negative covid test still applies.

Poster did post in family of USC forum… and i guess you missed his previous thousand posts about his F4 case  (not meant to be nasty to OP…. Glad they finally got their visas!)

[SteveInBostonI130 3,434]

9 minutes ago, TomoMontenegro said:

not your mistake , its was my mistake wich i dint describe that ,  im not sure about CR1/IR1 is , i know that we have  family F4 visa application from father's brother 

 

2 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Poster did post in family of USC forum… and i guess you missed his previous thousand posts about his F4 case  (not meant to be nasty to OP…. Glad they finally got their visas!)

 

Ok, then that can be a little tricky.   Although as an immigrant you technically are not subject to the travel ban, there have been posts of airlines giving people a hard time and even denying boarding to anyone not on the "exception" list -- USC, permanent resident, spouse of US, parent of USC, child of USC, non-married siblings of USC.... Married siblings and their family are not on that original exception list. 

 

In late 2020 or so the State Department added immigrants and fiance's as being not subject to the travel ban as part of National Interest Exemptions.  But there have been posts from some fiance's of USC with K1 who have been denied boarding.  Most of those issues were earlier this year, and perhaps nowadays airlines are more knowledgeable about who can and cannot travel to the US. 

 

To be safe, I would suggest you avoid connecting through the EU.  Also, I recommend Turkish airlines.  Their legroom is one of the worst of any airlines, but they allow 2 checked-in 23kg luggage as included in their base fare.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

6 minutes ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

 

 

Ok, then that can be a little tricky.   Although as an immigrant you technically are not subject to the travel ban, there have been posts of airlines giving people a hard time and even denying boarding to anyone not on the "exception" list -- USC, permanent resident, spouse of US, parent of USC, child of USC, non-married siblings of USC.... Married siblings and their family are not on that original exception list. 

 

In late 2020 or so the State Department added immigrants and fiance's as being not subject to the travel ban as part of National Interest Exemptions.  But there have been posts from some fiance's of USC with K1 who have been denied boarding.  Most of those issues were earlier this year, and perhaps nowadays airlines are more knowledgeable about who can and cannot travel to the US. 

 

To be safe, I would suggest you avoid connecting through the EU.  Also, I recommend Turkish airlines.  Their legroom is one of the worst of any airlines, but they allow 2 checked-in 23kg luggage as included in their base fare.

A fiancé visa is not an immigrant visa, though I hear you that they are second on the list of exceptions after immigrant visas. Can you point to any cases of people with a visa saying “immigrant visa” who have been refused? I haven’t heard of any since the change came in and there are a couple of forums I watch where people have been constantly entering the US on various immigrant visas from a myriad countries including banned ones (lots of IR5s from India). Not seen a single one report an issue. 

 

 

 

Edited October 13, 2021 by SusieQQQ

[SteveInBostonI130 3,434]

12 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

A fiancé visa is not an immigrant visa, though I hear you that they are second on the list of exceptions after immigrant visas. Can you point to any cases of people with a visa saying “immigrant visa” who have been refused? I haven’t heard of any since the change came in and there are a couple of forums I watch where people have been constantly entering the US on various immigrant visas from a myriad countries including banned ones (lots of IR5s from India). Not seen a single one report an issue. 

Hi Susie,

 

No,  I have not seen any posts of issues from those with immigration visas, but they are also part of the original exemption list - spouses or USC/LPR, parents of USC/LPR, children of USC/LPR.  There have not been many posts in general from married siblings of USC, which were one of the categories not exempt originally.  And I have not seen one travel related post from that classification, whether successful or not.

 

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

19 minutes ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

Hi Susie,

 

No,  I have not seen any posts of issues from those with immigration visas, but they are also part of the original exemption list - spouses or USC/LPR, parents of USC/LPR, children of USC/LPR.  There have not been many posts in general from married siblings of USC, which were one of the categories not exempt originally.  And I have not seen one travel related post from that classification, whether successful or not.

 

To be specific there is no distinction between any type of immigrant visa in the exemption list. You seem to think (from your posts) that spousal visas are the vast majority of immigrant visas when in fact they are not, in a typical year F category (family based but not IR)  and IR5 (parent) visas would be around four times the number of CR/IR spousal visas. So in actual fact airlines will be very used to seeing immigrant visas that are not spouse visas.

 

By the way before the general immigrant visa exemption, those claiming spousal exemption had to show a marriage certificate plus proof of spouse being USC, a CR or IR visa by itself was not enough.

[SteveInBostonI130 3,434]

19 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

To be specific there is no distinction between any type of immigrant visa in the exemption list. You seem to think (from your posts) that spousal visas are the vast majority of immigrant visas when in fact they are not, in a typical year F category (family based but not IR)  and IR5 (parent) visas would be around four times the number of CR/IR spousal visas. So in actual fact airlines will be very used to seeing immigrant visas that are not spouse visas.

 

By the way before the general immigrant visa exemption, those claiming spousal exemption had to show a marriage certificate plus proof of spouse being USC, a CR or IR visa by itself was not enough.

 

I am not sure why you thought that I thought that spousal visas are the vast majority?  I post mainly about spousal visas because that is what is relevant to my case and what I am most knowledgeable about at this point.  But I do not believe that the vast majority of immigrants are spouses.

 

I thought I stated that the original travel exemption list had other categories - parents of USC, children of USC/LPR, unmarried siblings of USC...

 

The updated exemption list added the general immigration category and K1, as well as a couple of other classifications as part of the National Interest Exemption list.    For example, DV winners could not travel to the US through a schengen country in 2020.  They can now, due to the general immigration (and K1) exemption.  I have not seen any issues specifically for immigration visa holders being denied flights, but most of those seemed to be part of the original exemption list.  I have seen K1's having issues earlier this year, when they should not have as part of the same NIE group.  But then again, there doesn't seem to be any issues recently.

 

Edited October 13, 2021 by SteveInBostonI130

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

2 hours ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

immigration visa holders being denied flights, but most of those seemed to be part of the original exemption list.  I

Again, no most of those were not, in fact they were outright banned under Trump even apart from the schengen bans, that’s why I inferred that you think spousal visas are the majority because there was an exception for spouses (and minor children), not for any of these others.

[HRQX 4,145]

On 10/13/2021 at 12:05 PM, SteveInBostonI130 said:

The updated exemption list added the general immigration category and K1, as well as a couple of other classifications as part of the National Interest Exemption list.

Yup: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/covid-19-travel-restrictions-and-exceptions.html

These three categories of travelers are automatically considered for National Interest Exception (NIE) at the Port of Entry and do not require advance approval of a NIE from an embassy or consulate.

• immigrants of all categories (not applicable to Proclamation 10199, which only covers nonimmigrant travel);
• fiancé(e)s of U.S. citizens and their dependents (K visas);
• Students (F and M visas) as described here;
• New or returning students present in China, Brazil, Iran, South Africa, or India may arrive  no earlier than 30 days before the start of an academic program beginning August 1, 2021 or after, including optional practical training (OPT);

[millefleur 5,046]

**Moved from Bringing Family Members of US Citizens to America to  Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion; question is about Covid travel requirements**