Accepted proof of vaccination for US citizens to the Philippines

[Corgent 93]

IATF Resolution No. 142 has been introduced.

 

It grants a shorter quarantine to citizens of yellow list countries if they can prove they are vaccinated. However, it is unclear to me whether any US citizen will be capable of proving their vaccination status according to the wording of the resolution.

 

3. For purposes of verification/confirmation of vaccination status, any of the following shall be acceptable:

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c. For non-OFWs and foreigners fully vaccinated abroad: the national digital certificate of the foreign government which has accepted VaxCertPH under a reciprocal arrangement or BOQ-issued ICV

 

Some points that come to mind: 1) the US has no national digital certificate, 2) it specifies "digital," so this rules out paper cards of any type, 3) I have heard of no agreement being established between the US and PH governments to accept each other's vaccination certificates, 4) isn't the BOQ-issued ICV only for people vaccinated in the Philippines, or am I wrong there?

 

I noticed One Health Pass has an option saying "Apply Vaccine Pass," does anyone with knowledge of OHP know if that is a way for US citizens to get their vaccination status verified before their visit?

 

Curious to hear everyone's take on this.

 

[top_secret 2,424]

12 minutes ago, Corgent said:

 1) the US has no national digital certificate, 2) it specifies "digital," so this rules out paper cards of any type,

It's not universal but allot of US States are issuing digital vaccination records.  Additionally, many of the commercial, medical or insurance entities that provided the vaccinations have electronic records.  My guess however is that this will take a few test victims to go through the system for everyone to see how it will actually be implemented.

[Corgent 93]

Just now, top_secret said:

It's not universal but allot of US States are issuing digital vaccination records.  Additionally, many of the commercial, medical or insurance entities that provided the vaccinations have electronic records.  My guess however is that this will take a few test victims to go through the system for everyone to see how it will actually be implemented.

I do have a state-level digital certificate from California but I'm assuming there's no reciprocal agreement there either.

Yeah, we'll see how this plays out as folks arrive and start attempting to qualify.

[Joe Kano 327]

Many US Citizens will not be able to provide the needed information to get in

 

It amazes me the USA has donated so many covid vaccines to the Philippines, but they will not let in US Citizens.  

[jg121783 3,915]

I just hope they don't put more restrictions on people who didn't get the shot and lift the ridiculous 10 day quarantine before we take a trip there next year to visit my wife's family (if everything works out). My wife, myself and our children have not taken the shot and have no intention of taking it. Were planning on going for about a month sometime next summer. If we have to sit in a hotel room for 10 days then spend the rest of the time at my wife's family's house so be it because the point of going is to visit her family but there is a lot more we would like to do and I hope it's not all limited to people who got the injection. 

[Joe Kano 327]

29 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

I just hope they don't put more restrictions on people who didn't get the shot and lift the ridiculous 10 day quarantine before we take a trip there next year to visit my wife's family (if everything works out). My wife, myself and our children have not taken the shot and have no intention of taking it. Were planning on going for about a month sometime next summer. If we have to sit in a hotel room for 10 days then spend the rest of the time at my wife's family's house so be it because the point of going is to visit her family but there is a lot more we would like to do and I hope it's not all limited to people who got the injection. 

I fully expect the Philippines and many other countries to require a covid vaccine to enter when they finally open up for tourism.

[jg121783 3,915]

2 minutes ago, Joe Kano said:

I fully expect the Philippines and many other countries to require a covid vaccine to enter when they finally open up for tourism.

Unfortunately my wife will be unable to visit her family then. Sad that it could come to this.

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6 hours ago, Joe Kano said:

I fully expect the Philippines and many other countries to require a covid vaccine to enter when they finally open up for tourism.

Most countries appear to be moving to this route and with the Philippines ultra conservative approach to the pandemic, I would expect this to be the case.

 

Also, I had a friend look closer to this "new order" and he mentioned that the shorter quarantine will apply for countries with a national vaccination registry.  This is something the US will never have if this is indeed the case so it will be interesting where the US will fit in if this is true. 

 

I had another friend who does statistical analysis do an evaluation on where certain countries stand in regards to the pandemic.  It appears the UK may be at the "end game", meaning the UK has reached a point where almost the entire population has been vaccinated or has been exposed to Covid.  With this, they still have around 200 Covid deaths a day.  This would mean once the US hits the same level of vaccinations or people exposed to the virus, the US will likely have 300-500 deaths a day.  Part of the reason why this is so high is the US population is just healthy which drives a higher % death rate than that compared to more healthy nations (which is practically every other country in the world.) This may be the best case scenario for the short term.  The overall evaluation is that the world is just a more dangerous place to live now and until humans have had more time to be exposed and build up more and more resistance, nothing is going to change much.  This usually takes several generations to occur.  In the medical network I work in, this is also the general feeling and you may start to see this type of "news" come out over the next 4-6 months.  

[RO_AH 1,659]

21 hours ago, Joe Kano said:

It amazes me the USA has donated so many covid vaccines to the Philippines, but they will not let in US Citizens.

I just landed yesterday

13 hours ago, jg121783 said:

I just hope they don't put more restrictions on people who didn't get the shot and lift the ridiculous 10 day quarantine before we take a trip there next year to visit my wife's family (if everything works out). My wife, myself and our children have not taken the shot and have no intention of taking it. Were planning on going for about a month sometime next summer. If we have to sit in a hotel room for 10 days then spend the rest of the time at my wife's family's house so be it because the point of going is to visit her family but there is a lot more we would like to do and I hope it's not all limited to people who got the injection. 

I haven't and will not get it either. I landed yesterday and that was first day of my quarantine. We were notified by the coast guard first followed by the PAL attendant of the rules before deplaning. On the 7th day I will get PCR test and on the 8th day released if negative. The total quarantine is still 14 days but less in Manila and LGU is increased. All I can tell you is what I am experiencing.

 

I don't buy all the doom and gloom or new world order globalist prophecies that we will all have to conform or we are all going to die. Sorry but I have lived through way too many other pandemics to be so frightened of this one. Philippines has an election soon and Filipino's are done with Covid. I honestly feel over half of the population would not get the vaccination if they went door to door and offered it for free. I will wait to draw judgment on the rules going forward after the next election.

[Corgent 93]

In Jennifer Terri's latest video, she talks about someone's experience arriving in the Philippines right after the resolution was introduced. They asked folks to raise their hands if they're vaccinated, split the group of arrivals into vaccinated and unvaccinated, and didn't even check anyone's vaccine certificate if they said they were vaccinated.

 

 

Edited October 10, 2021 by Corgent

[RO_AH 1,659]

44 minutes ago, Corgent said:

In Jennifer Terri's latest video, she talks about someone's experience arriving in the Philippines right after the resolution was introduced. They asked folks to raise their hands if they're vaccinated, split the group of arrivals into vaccinated and unvaccinated, and didn't even check anyone's vaccine certificate if they said they were vaccinated.

Yes, they do separate the vaccinated from unvaccinated. I was not around to see the process of what happens because I was gone before anyone else even got off the plane. The guy in the seat next to me was the only one with me. I am not vaccinated, so I wasn't about to say that I was and get in any kind of trouble. From what they said were the requirements I think that if you have your CDC card they may accept it. They already shortened it. I arrived planning on spending 10 days in quarantine anyway and was happy to have it only be 8, (7 technically).

[Corgent 93]

Looks like they will now be more accepting of US vaccination certificates... hopefully this is more than just talk.

https://businessmirror.com.ph/2021/10/15/state-vaccination-certificates-now-recognized-for-entry-into-phl/

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52 minutes ago, Corgent said:

Looks like they will now be more accepting of US vaccination certificates... hopefully this is more than just talk.

https://businessmirror.com.ph/2021/10/15/state-vaccination-certificates-now-recognized-for-entry-into-phl/

It sure sounds promising.

[Corgent 93]

See the bottom text.

[Kby175 115]

Hopefully they will start accepting the white cdc cards, some states are doing digital vaccine certifications while others are now.  One person had a digital one from California that was rejected on October 9th and forced into the unvaccinated group.  

 

As always things are changing constantly in the Philippines they announced they will accept the white cdc cards now:

 

 

Edited October 16, 2021 by Kby175