California Becomes First State To Require Students Be Vaccinated To Attend School [merged threads]

[laylalex 7,284]

19 hours ago, Rosalind F said:

What definition you are using to claim that COVID-19 vaccine is not a vaccine? Can you cite the reputable source? 

I'll just leave this here: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene/fact-check-mrna-vaccines-are-distinct-from-gene-therapy-which-alters-recipients-genes-idUSL1N2PH16N

Edited October 16, 2021 by laylalex

[Dashinka 24,489]

3 hours ago, laylalex said:

I'll just leave this here: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene/fact-check-mrna-vaccines-are-distinct-from-gene-therapy-which-alters-recipients-genes-idUSL1N2PH16N

Although this was not what I was talking about.  I was referring to the fact that the Covid vaccine only protects the vaccinated from serious illness, it does not stifle the spread.

[jg121783 3,915]

4 hours ago, laylalex said:

I'll just leave this here: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene/fact-check-mrna-vaccines-are-distinct-from-gene-therapy-which-alters-recipients-genes-idUSL1N2PH16N

I am suspicious of anything labeled as "fact check" or anyone calling themselves "fact checkers".

[laylalex 7,284]

5 hours ago, jg121783 said:

I am suspicious of anything labeled as "fact check" or anyone calling themselves "fact checkers".

How about from the NHS's Genomics Education Programme, which is on their Health Education website: https://www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk/blog/why-mrna-vaccines-arent-gene-therapies/

 

In my opinion, saying "I trust no one to have any truth about something" is a way of basically saying that there is no such thing as truth, which is sort of a nihilistic way of looking at the world. Reuters and AP have exceedingly long records of being relatively neutral and quite accurate sources. Do their reporters sometimes get things wrong? Yes, because reporting is done by humans who are fallible. 

 

Personally, I do not discount a source only because it comes from a direction I don't agree with. I look at whether or not what it's saying to me looks plausible, who is telling me, what their agenda might be, the tone of the piece (neutral reportage doesn't necessarily mean it's true though), and whether the source has a record of being correct more often than not. I welcome being wrong -- it's a chance to learn more and to test assumptions which is a necessary part of being a thinking human being. That doesn't mean I don't push back when my ideas are challenged, but it does mean I allow myself the chance to determine whether I'm wrong without going into a bunker mentality.

[Dashinka 24,489]

56 minutes ago, laylalex said:

How about from the NHS's Genomics Education Programme, which is on their Health Education website: https://www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk/blog/why-mrna-vaccines-arent-gene-therapies/

 

In my opinion, saying "I trust no one to have any truth about something" is a way of basically saying that there is no such thing as truth, which is sort of a nihilistic way of looking at the world. Reuters and AP have exceedingly long records of being relatively neutral and quite accurate sources. Do their reporters sometimes get things wrong? Yes, because reporting is done by humans who are fallible. 

 

Personally, I do not discount a source only because it comes from a direction I don't agree with. I look at whether or not what it's saying to me looks plausible, who is telling me, what their agenda might be, the tone of the piece (neutral reportage doesn't necessarily mean it's true though), and whether the source has a record of being correct more often than not. I welcome being wrong -- it's a chance to learn more and to test assumptions which is a necessary part of being a thinking human being. That doesn't mean I don't push back when my ideas are challenged, but it does mean I allow myself the chance to determine whether I'm wrong without going into a bunker mentality.

Ok, if you want to go on to the British NHS, and I the spirit of this thread, what are the Brits and the EU doing relative to vaccinating children.