Outspoken Marine officer who went viral blasting military leaders over Afghanistan is jailed: report

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/outspoken-marine-officer-went-viral-blasting-military-leaders-afghanistan-jailed

[jg121783 3,915]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/outspoken-marine-officer-went-viral-blasting-military-leaders-afghanistan-jailed

Sad thing is the people he was calling out are the ones that should be in jail.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

8 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Sad thing is the people he was calling out are the ones that should be in jail.

Yes but I got a little mixed emotions about this one. He was spot on but.... He should have resigned his commission 1st

[jg121783 3,915]

34 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Yes but I got a little mixed emotions about this one. He was spot on but.... He should have resigned his commission 1st

Maybe. But unless he disobeyed a lawful order or encouraged others to do so I don't think he should be jailed.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

29 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Maybe. But unless he disobeyed a lawful order or encouraged others to do so I don't think he should be jailed.

I think jail is a bit extreme and makes him more of Martyr. He was given a lawful order to cease and did not. As much as I agree with him, you can't have a military in which people get to choose which lawful orders to obey.

Example Lt William Calley argued he was following orders. He was convicted because massacaring innocent civilians is not a lawful order.  I know its a sticky situation. 

We devoted a good bit of time in Officer training to this subject. 

[jg121783 3,915]

59 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I think jail is a bit extreme and makes him more of Martyr. He was given a lawful order to cease and did not. As much as I agree with him, you can't have a military in which people get to choose which lawful orders to obey.

Example Lt William Calley argued he was following orders. He was convicted because massacaring innocent civilians is not a lawful order.  I know its a sticky situation. 

We devoted a good bit of time in Officer training to this subject. 

I was unaware he disobeyed a lawful order. Still jail is a bit extreme and we both know this is politically motivated.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

4 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

I was unaware he disobeyed a lawful order. Still jail is a bit extreme and we both know this is politically motivated.

Of course I agree.  Yes I read in the article he was given an order to stop and warned several times. He knew what he was facing. 

Under article 92 of the UCMJ he can be confined for 6 months and be given a BCD forfeit pay also if I remember correctly. 

 

It's a lose lose for both sides. He should have resigned his commission before starting his crusade. 

 

If you remember the 2 enlisted marines in a few good men. After the colonel admitted he gave the order, most charges were dropped but they still got conduct unbecoming and were given BCDs

[TBoneTX 45,273]

As always, it is a relief to be a superior primate and to laugh at the hierarchical antics of mere humans.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

Bowe Bergdahl and Bradley Manning both got better treatment than LTC Scheller has.  

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

10 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

Bowe Bergdahl and Bradley Manning both got better treatment than LTC Scheller has.  

True Dat 

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

7 hours ago, jg121783 said:

I was unaware he disobeyed a lawful order. Still jail is a bit extreme and we both know this is politically motivated.

He didn't.  He simply spoke out against the toxic and failed leadership above him, publicly.  Didn't perjure himself like Alex Vindmann did, but he's paying the ultimate price for maintaining his integrity.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

3 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

He didn't.  He simply spoke out against the toxic and failed leadership above him, publicly.  Didn't perjure himself like Alex Vindmann did, but he's paying the ultimate price for maintaining his integrity.

Vindmann for should have been nailed to a cross. What he did was 10x worse. Tried to unseat the President by sharing classified info. A light bird at that. Not a high level position at all.

 

I was in the service when the O North thing went down. He was a scapegoat. No Lt. Col in the world has that much power 

Edited September 29, 2021 by Nature Boy 2.0

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

1 minute ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Vindmann for should have been nailed to a cross. What he did was 10x worse. Tried to unseat the President by sharing classified info.

Didn't just share classified info, he LIED about it, trying to damage the president.  SHOULD have lost his retirement and spent some years in Ft. Leavenworth.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

1 minute ago, LIBrty4all said:

Didn't just share classified info, he LIED about it, trying to damage the president.  SHOULD have lost his retirement and spent some years in Ft. Leavenworth.

He was probably a token also.

[TBoneTX 45,273]

5 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

A light bird

Actually, a Porkchop.