Exit clearance in the Philippines

[flicks1998 1,044]

2 minutes ago, lowell1123 said:

so like i was saying my sons are us citizens becaause we already processed them to be us citizens meaning they given the filipino citizenship up to become us citizens

This is 100% incorrect.  At this point, its best you do as you please   

[lowell1123 6]

well if im 100% wrong then the BI is wrong and needs to get their people in check with that because thats where i got my information from. and if i was born here in the us and my mom at the time was a filipina that makes me a filipino citizen 

[flicks1998 1,044]

1 minute ago, lowell1123 said:

well if im 100% wrong then the BI is wrong and needs to get their people in check with that because thats where i got my information from. and if i was born here in the us and my mom at the time was a filipina that makes me a filipino citizen 

Please, we are trying to save you money when your children exit the Philippines.  Just get the Philippine passport for them.  Schedule an appointment (it may take awhile), bring the necessary documents, and get the passport.  If you do not have time for that to happen and they must exit the Philippines on their US passport, you will pay overstay fees, etc etc.  

 

This is about as much as we can help you.  Good luck on however you wish to proceed.

[lowell1123 6]

A Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA), FS-240, is an official record of U.S. citizenship issued to a person under age 18 who was born abroad to United States citizen parent(s) and acquired citizenship at birth.

[lowell1123 6]

yes i know that but im saying that my kids are already us citizens because we brought them to the us embassy to get their certificates and us passports. which means that they are no longer filipino citizens. we cant do anything as of yet to get their passports because it wont let anyone make any appointments. we have to wait until oct 1 when they will allow people to start making appointments

 

[HRQX 4,145]

1 minute ago, lowell1123 said:

to get their certificates and us passports. which means that they are no longer filipino citizens.

They are currently dual citizens; i.e. they are US citizens and still filipino citizens at the same time.

[lowell1123 6]

maybe i know why people say that my kids are filipino citizens. this is what i found 

 

Reporting Births of Children of Filipino Citizens

The Report of Birth is a declaration of the person furnishing information on the birth abroad of a Filipino child. It is important for Filipinos permanently residing abroad to promptly register with the Consulate the birth of a child in order for such a birth to be registered with the Office of the Civil Registrar General in Manila.

When a child is born abroad to parents who are both Filipino citizens or to one (1) parent who is a Filipino citizen, i.e. one who has not been naturalized as a citizen of a foreign country, the child's birth must be immediately reported to the Philippine Embassy or Consulate which exercises jurisdiction over the place of birth.

Ideally, the birth must be reported to the Consulate within twelve (12) months after its occurrence. When the parents neglect to report the birth within twelve (12), the birth may, nevertheless be recorded upon the determination of the consular officer of satisfactory evidence on the authenticity of the report. In these cases, the person who executed the report shall furnish the Consulate with an explanation surrounding the delay in reporting the birth.

 

but we never did that. 

[lowell1123 6]

my kids are not dual citizens either. 

• According to RA 9225, only constitutionally-defined, natural-born Filipinos who have lost their Filipino citizenship through foreign citizenship or naturalization are eligible to apply for dual citizenship in the Philippines.

[lowell1123 6]

Please refer your questions to the US Embassy.

If you have a child born to American citizens, though the child was born abroad, will automatically be a citizen of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

1790 First Congress, Act of March 26th, 1790, 1 Stat. 103.

"And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States".

[HRQX 4,145]

9 minutes ago, lowell1123 said:

my kids are not dual citizens either.

That is 100% incorrect. Ask any competent filipino law attorney and they'll say RA 9225 does not apply in your children's case. Getting the CRBA is not the same as the US naturalization process; that is why RA 9225 doesn't apply in their case.

• https://lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra2003/ra_9225_2003.html
• https://lawphil.net/statutes/comacts/ca_63_1936.html

[lowell1123 6]

the filipino child loses their filipino citizenship when they are documented in the us embassy and processed their birth abroad and us passports

[HRQX 4,145]

Just now, lowell1123 said:

the filipino child loses their filipino citizenship when they are documented in the us embassy and processed their birth abroad and us passports

Again, that is 100% incorrect

[lowell1123 6]

my kids are not dual citizens either. 

• According to RA 9225, only constitutionally-defined, natural-born Filipinos who have lost their Filipino citizenship through foreign citizenship or naturalization are eligible to apply for dual citizenship in the Philippines. doesnt that explain it all? 100% correct it does so they are not dual citizens because they need to apply for dual citizenship how can a newly born child become a dual citizen if no one applied for the child to become one? so what youre trying to say is that new born baby 1 year later can just be carried out in the airplane and just leave? 

[flicks1998 1,044]

8 minutes ago, HRQX said:

That is 100% incorrect. Ask any competent filipino law attorney and they'll say RA 9225 does not apply in your children's case. Getting the CRBA is not the same as the US naturalization process; that is why RA 9225 doesn't apply in their case.

• https://lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra2003/ra_9225_2003.html
• https://lawphil.net/statutes/comacts/ca_63_1936.html

We’ve tried to explain already and the OP has been given the correct advice. All they need to do is apply for the Philippine passport and their problems are solved. I had to give up on explaining   Everything they are referencing doesn’t apply. 

 

Im not sure if the OP thinks that a passport determines a persons nationality whereas the passport only proves nationality. There are many other factors that determine nationality.  Since the kids are born in the Philippines and one parent was a Filipino citizen they automatically qualify for Philippine citizenship giving them the right to the PI passport. 
 

I got too frustrated to continuing explaining.

Edited September 27, 2021 by flicks1998

[lowell1123 6]

always incorrect not klnowing youre the one incorrect